Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 In a message dated 7/23/02 4:05:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > having children > (physically of one's body) is not part of the definition of family (there > are > plenty of childless married couples around You consider childless couples a "family?" Interesting. I think most people get married and say, "let's start a family," meaning with children they will be a family. Or they may say to each other, "do you want a family?" I don't think of that as a family myself, for whatever it is worth. Especially if they are celibate. But, if you want to consider spiritual children and all, then OK, it's sort of a family. That, of course, makes our humble Amma, the biggest single mother in the universe, or close to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Dear April: ' I am considering the same question about the Guru. What do we have a right to expect from the Guru; what are we secretly expecting of the Guru? How do we relate to the Mother, be referred to as "children" and not fall into the dependent and childish relation, in reality, not bullcrap. I have a dread since seeing Her this summer, that most are secretly hoping that She will make realization possible for them, without having to suffer ego death; not as a help to get through ego death, but as a Savior Goddess. I know I will be flamed for saying this. I say it because I see it in myself, and have found that no matter what I may say on the surface, I think I have a hope She is a Savior, who can help me spiritually ( and if all goes well, I won't have to face hell...that I can "lean ' on her; but what does that mean? What do I really expect from Her in saying this? And when I analyze it, I find I want Her to save me from having to really go through the hell of ego death (which is impossible and pathetic, but it crept in somehow through the back door). She sets herself up as a Savior Goddess, which, what does it mean anyhow? She cannot "save" us from the Ordeal that She Herself, and everyone else before Her, must go through. So, what do we want from Her, really.....? Let er rip! Avram BTW, would your ex-Guru have initials DFJ associated with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 > > having children > > (physically of one's body) is not part of the definition of family (there > > are > > plenty of childless married couples around > > You consider childless couples a "family?" Interesting. > I think most people get married and say, "let's start > a family," meaning with children they will be a family. Not to bring up cats and dogs again, but some people consider their pets as their "kids". Raising real kids takes a lot more time and effort and money. What's wrong with a little fantasy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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