Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2004 I have a question about Jap Ji. Is it necessary to recite it in the original, or is it sufficinet to do it in English ? I find it hard to get meaning out of it if i don't understand what I'm reciting. I find it boring too. Avtar Kaur ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2004 Avtar Kaur wrote: > > I have a question about Jap Ji. Is it necessary to recite it in the > original, or is it sufficient to do it in English ? Gurmukhi is a Soul language. It is not an interpersonal language. It is a phonetically engineered language that creates a specific effect in the psyche. The English is a rough translation. It not like the mere mention of the word "Light" can dispel darkness, but in the Gurmukhi a word that says Light actually is Light. It's vibration and origin came from the experience of Illumination and by repeating the word, you can recreate the same experience of Illumination...even if you don't know what you are saying with your conscious intellect. Read it with a loving passion and the boredom (?), will be neutralized. Also, know that if one recites all five Banis, all Five Elements will be balanced and one will not be reactive on any of those levels. This is something to aspire to. Ether, Air, Fire, Water and Earth are all covered in order by Japji, Jaap Sahib, Anand Sahib, Rehiras and Kirtan Sohila. It is a precise and complete science and one you can experience directly. Don't take my or any one else's word for it. Learn a Bani by listening to reading along with it. Use the same tape. It will become second nature. Sat Nam, Dharam Singh > I find it hard to > get meaning out of it if i don't understand what I'm reciting. I find it > boring too. > > Avtar Kaur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2004 Sat Nam Avtar Kaur. I read your comment about Japji 'being boring' and the best thing I can tell you to do is go to JAPJI week in Espanola in June. It was change many many things for you.. Your sense of self, connection, soul, spirit, nature, community. And the words will become the most intense connection to unexpressable joy that you will know.. Uh, huh..it's really that good. Also, sometimes there are phone conference discussion groups too and those are wonderful. Once you are ignited by Japji, you will smile as I did when I read your comment that it 'is boring'. Much love, Jan Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2004 "Is it necessary to recite it in the original, or is it sufficinet to do it in English? I find it hard to get meaning out of it if i don't understand what I'm reciting. I find it boring too. Avtar Kaur" Sat Nam Avtar Kaur. It is my experience that learning JapJi in both languages is essential from a heart-centered point of view. A friend gave me some advice. She said take it slowly. Learn the pauris (sections) as they connect to your life experience, then they will stick with you. I have felt, that for myself, each day a different one resonates in me, some days it's the same passage- I keep it with me throughout the day as a mantra and then soon it is not just in memory, it is integrated into my being. I believe the Gurmukhi is essential because it is the naad, the sound current, the bell that rings directly to the heart. Good, real pronounciation is essential- you will fall in love with the sound and it roll off your tongue when you least expect it. As for the English, find several interpretations because it is poetry and different people interpret words differently- spin is everything. A good "classical" translation is helpful and then something "modern" will help make it "familiar" In terms of transliteration, it is also helpful to read with pauses and breath sounds in the right places- again it's the naad and rhythm that create the lyricism that inspired the words in the first place. Check your intention also. Why are you learning it? When you are invested, boredom won't be an issue. These are my thoughts- the same questions I have asked myself, as I all too often I mumble my way through way too many pauris at sadhana. But be patient with yourself, because as it is meant to be, so it will be, and you WILL be filled with lightness. Wahe Guru Ji ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji ki Fateh blessed sadhana Siri Bahadur Kaur _______________ Get fast, reliable access with MSN 9 Dial-up. Click here for Special Offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sada nam 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2008 If you find japji Boring is a very interesting video in you tube its called "the song of the soul" search it and learn from someone who really vibrates t he japji when she recitates it Also you cant think that your practice is boring its just not something that will make you grow My experience haves been better when I feel enthusiasm for the techniques that I am trying to learn sat nam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LakhbirSingh 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Hey! If you´re not doing the adi shakti mantra (Ek Ong Kaar, Sat Nam Siri, Wahe Guru) I urge you to do it for at least 11 min (the longer the better ) before you recite japji sahib, it gives an more intiutive approach to the Song of the Soul. I too am not to familar with the meaning of every aspect of Japji, but when I do a good Adi Shakti Mantra before, I get more into it! Give it a try! Hopefully you´ll love it! Love /ChrisC a.k.a Lakhbir Singh Ps. By the way, maybe you´ll enjoy the recitation more with music...try MrSikhnet.com and search for "Japji Sahib" and/or "Cherdikala Jatha". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
