Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I wrote this for another forum and am sharing it here for yr perusal and comments.Thanks Dear Esteemed Hindu Thinkers, I have absolute repsect for you all but feel that many of your comments reflect an isolation from the ground reality in my country. Therefore I have a question and some comments. Is there not a difference between Islamic and Christian Triumphalists and individual believers? I am repeatedly surprised to see Hindus who know first hand the impact of having yr beliefs, traditions and values assaulted, yet are so keen to discredit the individual faith of others. As an American, living in America, I am offering my perspective. By Hindus urging alliances with the ACLU, attacking the religious Identity of average Americans, attacking displays of the 10 commandments, you are siding with some of the very same enemies of Hinduism that are attacking India. I know its complicated, but surely you can separate antagonistic conversionists from yr everyday Christian. I get the feeling that even if Christians did not practice conversion and the Muslims Jihad, you would all still be against them. By the same standard, are not the Jews a problem? I am convinced that the best approach for the Hindus is to be strong in all arenas and from that foundation of strength we can work with good people of all faiths and backgrounds. This is not just a theory. The Christians have publicly recognized Vedic scholars like Michael Cremo, Richard Thompson as heroes. In Hawaii, known Krishna followers are leaders in the Republican party and have repeatedly been elected to office. The Mormons funded the building of a Krishna temple in Utah. Why? Because the Christians recognize in them people of faith who value traditions and culture. Please name even one instance when any American left group has funded any American Hindu project? The strategy of allying with the ACLU and other extreme left groups is detrimental to American Hindus in the long run. I am an American and a Hindu. I for one do not feel comfortable trading attacks against Christains in America to get back at the Conversionists in India. Each arena of activism needs to have an appropriate strategy for the long term benefit of Dharma. I dont beleive that you can have a positive impact with a majority of Americans by allying with groups that are dedicated to destroying the rights of the Nation-State, Religion and the Traditional Family structure. Among other things, the ACLU is championing the authority of International law above and beyond the laws of individual nations. Unlike most other countries we can say and promote anything we want. We dont get arrested for printing pictures of Mohammed unlike Indians. America recognizes Hinduism unlike many 'enlightend' democracies of Europe. We dont give one religious group previledges above and beyond other groups. American law does not need supplanting by International law. In America, most Judicial nominees are either directly or indirectly elected by the people. The ACLU says that American law should be subservient to the decisions of un-elected judges in Europe.if America succumbs to this, India will not be spared this same treatement. It is only India's current political power and Americas lack of support for the International Tribunals that is stopping Hindu leaders like Narendra Modi from being hauled into the International Court in the Hague. If the ACLU has its way, any American could be subjected to the will and precendent of foriegn courts. Just last month, the local chapter of the ACLU blocked the democratic choice of a Seattle community to keep convicted violent sex offenders out of their community. Despite some legalistic jargon, to most Americans this a complete disregard for commmunity standards and wishes. American Hindus need to ally with others that share our values. By interacting with them from a position of strength we will achieve our goals. By allying with the American version of the enemies of Hinduism, we are empowering the enemies of India. Those conversionists that are targeting India can be easily exposed and isolated thru strong political alliances. The fact is no concrete and realistic action has been taken up by the Hindu leadership to discredit the Conversionists in America. It is an easy thing to do. I and other American Hindus have frequently presented solid proposals. Yet nothing has been done. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT IF MY PROPOSALS WERE TAKEN UP BY THE SANGH, AT LEAST 50% OF AMERICAN CONVERISON MONEY WOULD DRY UP. IF I HAD THE RESOURCES TO DO IT, I WOULD JUST SHUT UP AND DO IT, BUT I DONT. SO I WONT BE QUIET. To be clear, I have the same goals as you all to promote the correct understanding of Hindu culture. I just dont agree on the tactics that I have seen proposed by you all. By denying that Christians and Muslims have a culture is not going to garner us much support. This approach creates many obstacles to promoting Dharma in America. I am speaking from 1st hand experiance of successfully promoting Dharma in my country. Its not just theoritical. If I had publicly stated the comments I have seen from hindus re: Christianity, I would be battling them instead of promoting Dharma. Our American laws of freedom of speech already protect Hindus and have truly enabled us. Our only problem is a lack of cohesiveness and committed financial empowerment. So to be clear, I am not addressing the situation in India re:Christians and Muslims. I am talking about developing effective alliances in my own country that will give American Hindus a long term and prominent place in the future of America. The idea that anyone is going to discredit the faith of millions of Americans in Jesus and turn them all into Hindus or some ambivelant 'Spiritualism'is not realistic. However, by developing our political and financial strength while simultaneously creating an awareness of the humane track record of Vedic/Hindu civilization we will surely open up the hearts and minds of all good hearted and well intended Americans. For the record, as I told Sri Ram Madhavji (RSS Spokesman), I am an American Patriot. One of the primary reasons I am dedicated to Hindu culture is because it is obviously the only civilization that has practical solutions to our countries problems. These can all be applied to America's needs without everyone officially converting to Hinduism. If it happened spontaneously, thats great, but it is not going to happen in the near future. So our best strategy is to work within the American system and apply Hindu wisdom whenever and wherever possible. As my Grandpa says you can attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. So by Hindus publicly allying with the Gay rights movemment, Abortionists, ACLU, Saudi-funded American Muslim groups, Atheistic Jewish groups, Pornographers, Psuedo-human rights groups etc, American Hindus will become marginalized and stuck on the extreme left fringes of society. When American Hindus publicly support the same traditional values that American Christians, Independent Muslim groups and Religious Jews support, we will be empowered. This is my view based on the practical reality in my own country. India's reality regarding Christians and Muslims is a whole different story and I will leave that to India's citizens to deal with. Vrndavan Parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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