Responses re: Atheism Topic

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Namaste,

I do not agree that it was only Christianity that is to blame for the

American Indian genocide. It was clearly corporate greed and the lust

for land and gold that is mainly to blame. As in India it was the

British East India Co that initially raped India until the 1857

Independence struggle ended their riegn only to be replaced by

Imperial Britain, which was another corporation. Also a majority of

natives died from disease which they contracted thru social

interaction with Europeans.Yes there were some intentional acts of

contamination. however Christains were more interested in conversions

in order to maintain a docile workforce combined with a genuine

belief that they were saving the heathens.

 

This or that valid complaint can be levelled against

Christianity.However the Christianity as practiced by St Francis is

the true form of Christianity. It is a real and authentic path to

reach God. Its no surprise that a majority of christains were/are

only christain in name. Krsna says in the Gita that out of the many

that come to the path maybe only one will succeed. That does not make

the path invalid.

 

Also individuals that profess atheism are not the issue. Its the

doctrine of soul-less atheism being championed as the voice of reason

and rationality that I see as the overall problem. Atheistic theories

are presented as fact while spiritual and traditional concepts are

belittled in the mass media and academia. Those interested in these

subjects must involve themselves in specialized institutions outside

of the mainstream.

 

Atheistic agendas are funded by governments and major life and death

issues are decided and measured thru the perspective of atheism. The

Mainstream approaches Abortion, marriage, death etc from the view

that faith is irrational and thus irrelevent.

 

I am aware of vedic atheists such as Charvak Muni, "who summed up his

view of life in these words: "If you have no money then beg, borrow

or steal, but in some way secure ghee and enjoy life. You will not be

held responsible. As soon as your body is burned to ashes after

death, everything is finished." Of course Vedic philosophy totally

refutes this materialistic concept."

 

The conclusion of the vedic scriptures has repeatedly been confirmed

by a majority of the great stalwarts of Ancient India to be theistic.

They have revealed that that life should be spent reaching towards

Bhagavan/God. For thousands of years the greatest minds of India have

pondered and debated these topics and a majority have come to

theistic conclusions.

 

Again in the Vedic histories most demoniac beings were atheistic in

their outlook. So yeah I believe atheism is a demonic trait but that

does not mean I believe all atheist are demons. Lust is another

demonic trait and very rare indeed is a being free of lust, but of

course that does not mean we are all asuras.

 

Also Weinberg is wrong. Abortion on demand is the most horrific mass

murder in the histroy of the world. All kinds of good people are

having abortions influenced by the atheistic concept of morality. The

ongoing quiet holocaust of millions of helpless babies, for the sake

of convenience, is the most dispicable and viscious campaign of

genocide ever waged in the history of the world. This isnt history Im

talking about here, its an on-going horror that can not be blamed on

religion, christain, muslim or whatever.

 

So Nobel 'Dynamite Inventor' Laurette Weinberg just proves you can be

wrong and still get the Nobel prize.

I apologise if my response is not gentle as it could be. I do not

intent to offend but I dont agree with your post so I am responding.

Sincerely, Vrndavan

 

 

 

HinduThought, Kalavai Venkat

<kalavai.venkat@g...> wrote:

> Nobel laureate in Physics Steven Weinberg wrote, "With or without

religion,

> good people can behave well and bad people can do evil. But for

good people

> to do evil, that takes religion." It is in the name of god - both

Christian

> and Muslim - that most massacres and genocides have been committed.

> Christians, for example, decimated 100 million Native Indians

during the

> colonization of the Americas. We should distinguish between

ideologies like

> Communism and atheism. Communism is an offshoot of Christianity.

Both are

> totalitarian and invoke class struggle. The only difference is that

in

> Communism the struggle is between bourgeois and proletariat while

in

> Christianity it is between believer and heathen. Both are based on

bogus

> dogmas. Communism is based on the bogus notion that sharing of

wealth brings

> prosperity while Christianity is based on the bogus notion that

believing in

> the fake Jesus puts one on the heaven-bound cargo, post-mortem.

Both

> Communism and Christianity appeal to the ignorance of the masses

and

> militate against merit. Both dehumanize and demonize 'the other.'

> On the other hand, in the absence of Communism, atheism has never

been

> violent. There are schools of Hinduism and Buddhism which too are

atheistic

> to varying shades.

> Regards,

> KV

>

>

> On 8/29/05, Vrndavan Parker <vrnparker> wrote:

> >

> > Vrndavan Parker <vrnparker> wrote:Mon, 29 Aug 2005

> > 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT)

> > Vrndavan Parker <vrnparker>

> > athiesm:the most violent genocidal doctrine

> > vy@l...

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > First I wanted to say, if anything in this message seems

atagonistic, it

> > is not aimed at anyone here. Its aimed at the overall crap I have

dealt with

> > in media and academia.

> >

> > many great points are made here. just wanted to add that though

there are

> > fanatic christians/krishnas/muslims etc the overall reality is

that the

> > academic and mainstream is completely dominated by fanatic

atheistic

> > theories of evolution, history and civilization.

> >

>