Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Namaste Barbara, Pls go to this group for Classical Tantrism : Tantrism/?yguid=45004342 You will find full texts on MahaNirvana Tantra kindly posted by Sri Neilji in the old messages if you do a search on that group. It is the real thing, translated by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) while serving in Calcutta way back before we were born. Much love Simone , "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote: > I know that this is off the topic, but is anyone familiar with the Mahanirvana Tantra? I wonder why there seems to be no mention in it of the worship of Ganesh or of the wearing of Rudraksha. Is this a genuine Tantra? > > Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Namaste Simone, Thanks for your message. I will go to this site. Barbara - Simone Friday, July 01, 2005 7:17 PM MahaNirvana Tantra Namaste Barbara,Pls go to this group for Classical Tantrism : Tantrism/?yguid=45004342 You will find full texts on MahaNirvana Tantra kindly posted by Sri Neilji in the old messages if you do a search on that group. It is the real thing, translated by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) while serving in Calcutta way back before we were born.Much loveSimone, "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote:> I know that this is off the topic, but is anyone familiar with the Mahanirvana Tantra? I wonder why there seems to be no mention in it of the worship of Ganesh or of the wearing of Rudraksha. Is this a genuine Tantra?> > Barbarahttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release 7/1/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Namaste all, A quick response regarding the Mahanirvana Tantra. Firstly, I'm not over familiar with this text, but I do know that the worship of Lord Ganesh and meditation upon him is mentioned in several places through it. It reads at one point: Meditating on Ganesha once again, He should be worshipped with offerings of the five elements. On each of His four sides should the excellent Kaulika worship Ganesha, Gana-nayaka, Gana-natha, Gana-krida, Eka-danta, Rakta-tunda, Lambodara, Gajanana, Mahodara, Vikata, Dhumrabha, and Vighna-nashana. It says in Avalon's/Woodroffe's introduction that this 'Tantra has been assigned to the group of sixty-four known as those of the Rathakranta'. Rathakranta is seemingly a northern region, but where exactly I couldn't say with confidence. The 64 I take it must mean the 64 Bhairava Shastras. I believe there are 92 Agamas (the defining character of an Agama is that Parvati/Devi asks Shiva questions, whereas this is reversed in the Nigamas) - the 64 Bhairava Shastras (which are non-dualistic), the 18 Rudra Shastras (which are non-dualistic cum dualistic), and 10 Shiva Shastras (which are dualistic). Whereas Rudraksha I believe is mentioned a couple of times. From what I have been told Rudraksha tend to be mentioned more in the Rudra and Shiva Shastras. Hope this helps : ) Om Shanti Neil [] On Behalf Of Barbara J. Spencer02 July 2005 05:48Subject: Re: MahaNirvana Tantra Namaste Simone, Thanks for your message. I will go to this site. Barbara - Simone Friday, July 01, 2005 7:17 PM MahaNirvana Tantra Namaste Barbara,Pls go to this group for Classical Tantrism : Tantrism/?yguid=45004342 You will find full texts on MahaNirvana Tantra kindly posted by Sri Neilji in the old messages if you do a search on that group. It is the real thing, translated by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) while serving in Calcutta way back before we were born.Much loveSimone, "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote:> I know that this is off the topic, but is anyone familiar with the Mahanirvana Tantra? I wonder why there seems to be no mention in it of the worship of Ganesh or of the wearing of Rudraksha. Is this a genuine Tantra?> > Barbarahttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/05http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Beliefs of hinduism Lord ganesha Beyond belief Mormon beliefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Namaste, I haven't come to any references to Rudraksha yet, but I did notice a reference to coral or other malas, but Rudraksha at that place was not mentioned specifically. I did notice that the Mahanirvana Tantra said that worshippers of Ganesh could be initiated, and, also, there is a reference to the first viewing of the Sun by a child. Then the father first should worship Ganesh; however, it seems to me, that this is not given as a daily occurrence. Perhaps I am wrong here, as I am not knowledgeable about the text. Barbara - Neil Saturday, July 02, 2005 7:22 AM RE: MahaNirvana Tantra Namaste all, A quick response regarding the Mahanirvana Tantra. Firstly, I'm not over familiar with this text, but I do know that the worship of Lord Ganesh and meditation upon him is mentioned in several places through it. It reads at one point: Meditating on Ganesha once again, He should be worshipped with offerings of the five elements. On each of His four sides should the excellent Kaulika worship Ganesha, Gana-nayaka, Gana-natha, Gana-krida, Eka-danta, Rakta-tunda, Lambodara, Gajanana, Mahodara, Vikata, Dhumrabha, and Vighna-nashana. It says in Avalon's/Woodroffe's introduction that this 'Tantra has been assigned to the group of sixty-four known as those of the Rathakranta'. Rathakranta is seemingly a northern region, but where exactly I couldn't say with confidence. The 64 I take it must mean the 64 Bhairava Shastras. I believe there are 92 Agamas (the defining character of an Agama is that Parvati/Devi asks Shiva questions, whereas this is reversed in the Nigamas) - the 64 Bhairava Shastras (which are non-dualistic), the 18 Rudra Shastras (which are non-dualistic cum dualistic), and 10 Shiva Shastras (which are dualistic). Whereas Rudraksha I believe is mentioned a couple of times. From what I have been told Rudraksha tend to be mentioned more in the Rudra and Shiva Shastras. Hope this helps : ) Om Shanti Neil [] On Behalf Of Barbara J. Spencer02 July 2005 05:48Subject: Re: MahaNirvana Tantra Namaste Simone, Thanks for your message. I will go to this site. Barbara - Simone Friday, July 01, 2005 7:17 PM MahaNirvana Tantra Namaste Barbara,Pls go to this group for Classical Tantrism : Tantrism/?yguid=45004342 You will find full texts on MahaNirvana Tantra kindly posted by Sri Neilji in the old messages if you do a search on that group. It is the real thing, translated by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) while serving in Calcutta way back before we were born.Much loveSimone, "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote:> I know that this is off the topic, but is anyone familiar with the Mahanirvana Tantra? I wonder why there seems to be no mention in it of the worship of Ganesh or of the wearing of Rudraksha. Is this a genuine Tantra?> > Barbarahttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/05http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Beliefs of hinduism Lord ganesha Beyond belief Mormon beliefs http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release 7/1/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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