Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Namaste Sri Neilji, Excellent response to Amit's unnecessary crudity and lack of taste, let alone sheer ignorance in a cocoon of Duality, Discrimmination and Division. Thank you Neilji. Highly Appreciate the time and effort you've taken with Amit. Jai Bholenath Namah Om GuNg GuNg Sharanam Ganesha Simone , "Neil " <Trikashaivism@o...> wrote: > Namaste Amit, > > Sorry, I missed your last mail, wasn't purposely ignoring you. I have > been busy to an extreme and also without a phone line for a bit. I'll > paste your mail and respond to it below: > > >On this topic of relating sex as Shakti with Lord > Ganesha.. i have expressed my consent about why i feel > such postures of Lord Ganesha statues are not what > Hindu religion is or might be...> > > Yes, I agree and feel I have done the same, and so don't see the need to > perpetuate this any further. > > >Today i would just ask some questions which you just > answer in simple Yes or No without any comments pls ..> > > Sorry, you want answers, and you want them super simplified? How can you > ask this? As the old saying goes "you can't have your cake and eat it". > This is the problem - you are trying to condense a hundred varied > traditions into simple, one size fits all, answers. It simply doesn't > work like that. Your answering criteria doesn't fit the questions! > > >Based on your answer you yourself shall get answer to > my consent about the not displaying Lord Ganesha in > such postures.... > > 1) Do you feel Gods/Goddesses should be shown in > sexual postures.. ?> > > It depends on the context. It is entirely appropriate within some > traditions because it is understood in the correct context. An > understanding which even though has been patiently explained here you > either have failed to grasp or have just ignored. > > 2) Arent your parents more supreme than God ? > > I wouldn't say so. > > 3) If yes then would you agree on keeping their sexual > postures in form pictures or statues at your home ? > > Amit friend, questions like this and the ones below are only > illustrating how much you are not grasping the context and symbolism of > sex within traditions, particularly Tantrism. IMHO images of devas and > devis in intercourse are not to be taken on a simplistic, literal level. > If they are the meaning is lost and we head down the road to a dogmatic > fundamentalist perspective. > > 4) Would you mind doing sex with your partner in front > of public the way dogs do it... > > I'm not even going to dignify such a dumb question with an answer. Your > questions are bringing down the tone of the group far, far more than any > image ever has. > > 5) Can you call a Porno movie a sacred film .. ? > > Again, you are miles off from understanding what is trying to be said by > myself and others. > > 6) Are you hurt with these questions ? > > No, not even an iota. If anything I think they are crude and rather > unintelligent. > > >If your answer to my last question is YES, it means > you didnt like me asking such questions about your > personal life which includes your family members.. If > you didnt like then please let me know why you didnt > like it ? so that i can further comment... > > Not hurt in the slightest by these questions. If they were to hurt you > then it tells you were need to work on yourself. They are only > questions, the play of words need not affect one. You can ask these > questions or even make statements a hundred times more crude and > offensive, but internally its no big deal, it is not going to disturb my > state of mind. Sticks and stones....and the play of the Matrika. > > I understand what you are saying Amit and what you are trying to > illustrate, but in my eyes these questions only reveal your perspective > and interpretation. I, and probably everybody else who has read these > posts, get your perspective. We simply don't agree with it and won't > abide by it. So let us let sleeping dogs lie. > > >If your answer to most of the question above was > YES... then am sorry ... you are definately not from > culture of India ... and rather preaching such stuffs > as Hinduism... please term it a new religion with any > good name you like.. But please spare Hindu > religion...> > > Amit, your perspective is chopping off a fair bit of Hinduism. Hinduism > is broader than your personal beliefs. It would serve all better to > expand understanding rather than continue conversations like this. I > think everybody gets the points that yourself and I have made, lets not > bore them! I have no interest in continuing this thread because I feel > what is necessary to be said has been said. You have your perspective > and I have mine, which is fine, as I have no wish to actively change > your mind. > > > Om Shanti > Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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