Puja & Japa Without the Need..

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

 

Ball-buster? You were only busting y'self if you think one can

leave goddess at the door.

 

Goddess is Shakti, innate in every living thing, innate in Lord

Ganapati as well. Shakti, Shakti, Shakti.

 

Get seriously studying more deeply Jim, becos its Bhakti that

matters above all else.

 

There are also female Ganesh forms somewhere in the world (I think

Japan or some place else.

 

Len, can you recall those old messages where some members discussed

the female aspects of Ganesha?)

 

If anyone can remember the old messages or have info relevant to the

female aspects of Ganesha, please enlighten us, thank you.

 

Ommmmmmmmm,

A.G.

 

 

, james richard <nhraddude71>

wrote:

> I dont meen to be a ball buster ,but this group is for the glory

of Ganesh, Ganesha, Ganapate ,Harumba, Vinayaka..... so on and so

forth. Please leave your godess at the door.

>

>

Peace, Gajanana Jimji

>

> Aum Ganesh <aumganesh> wrote:

>

> Puja and Japa

> without the need of Initiation

>

>

> a) Japa

> by Aravind Krishna

>

> .` ïImaÇe nm>.

> ||om þrŸm˜tre nama×||

>

> ..OM shrImAtre namaH..

>

> If a person is not initiated in any mantra that exalts her glory,

or if he is deaf and dumb or if he is just afraid of the mishap in a

wrong recitation, are we to conclude that he is not qualified to

worship the

> Divine Mother? Members would definitely disagree. Then what might

be the best way to proceed? A unanimous answer would be to seek the

right Guru and act as per his advice. But if that is not possible

for now, is there some other alternative? Our revered Ravi shankar

suggested manasa puja for worship. That would be the best worship to

offer. If you need a mantra to recite, the best one would

be, ..shrImAtre namaH..

[Guest guest]

Namaste A.G. & all,

 

Some ramblings for those interested -

 

>Goddess is Shakti, innate in every living thing, innate in Lord Ganapati as

well. Shakti, Shakti, Shakti.......If anyone can remember the old messages or

have info relevant to the female aspects of Ganesha, please enlighten us, thank

you.>

 

I don't recall those posts, but for what it is worth I'd like to offer up my

current understanding in relation to this -

>From a perspective all deities are feminine, with Ganesh being the first of

them. This is meant in the sense that we have Shiva and Shakti tattvas, or more

precisely Shivashakti, for the two are one and only seperated for the sake of

our mental/intellectual understanding. All creation (including deities) are

saguna blossoms of nirguna Shivashakti, Shiva generally being the static

illuminating principle (prakasha) and Shakti the dynamic creative and

reflective principle (vimarsha). Ganesh is the first of these shaktis, hence he

is Ganapati or the Lord of the Ganas. The ganas in this sense being the shaktis

of creation/the tattvas of existence. Ganesh is Vignaharta, the remover of

obstacles, because he is Lord of these shaktis. I think (IMHO) this is why

Ganesh is often the bestower of grace and considered to be the deva of the

Muladhara. For without his blessing/grace one doesn't get far, since it is he

who is removes the obstacles of spiritual development, such as the piercing of

the Brahma Granthi. In fact grace and self effort are two ends of the same

stick, so Ganesh is present even when we don't recognise it and think we have

done it on our own. But anyway, in other words, Ganesh is inseperable from

Shakti, for he is Shakti, in the sense that he exists within/form of the

oscillating feminine principle. Which also means that if he is Shakti he is

also Shiva at the same time....I think! LOL

 

Hope this makes sense and is of some value. : )

 

 

Om Shanti

Neil

 

 

 

-

Aum Ganesh

 

Friday, April 29, 2005 3:48 AM

Puja & Japa Without the Need..

Hi Jim,Ball-buster? You were only busting y'self if you think one can leave

goddess at the door. Goddess is Shakti, innate in every living thing, innate

in Lord Ganapati as well. Shakti, Shakti, Shakti. Get seriously studying more

deeply Jim, becos its Bhakti that matters above all else.There are also female

Ganesh forms somewhere in the world (I think Japan or some place else. Len,

can you recall those old messages where some members discussed the female

aspects of Ganesha?)If anyone can remember the old messages or have info

relevant to the female aspects of Ganesha, please enlighten us, thank

you.Ommmmmmmmm,A.G., james richard

<nhraddude71> wrote:> I dont meen to be a ball buster ,but this group is

for the glory of Ganesh, Ganesha, Ganapate ,Harumba, Vinayaka..... so on and so

forth. Please leave your godess at the door.> >

Peace, Gajanana Jimji> > Aum

Ganesh <aumganesh> wrote:> > Puja and Japa > without the need of

Initiation> > > a) Japa> by Aravind Krishna> > .` ïImaÇe nm>.> ||om þrYm~tre

nama×||> > ..OM shrImAtre namaH..> > If a person is not initiated in any mantra

that exalts her glory, or if he is deaf and dumb or if he is just afraid of the

mishap in a wrong recitation, are we to conclude that he is not qualified to

worship the > Divine Mother? Members would definitely disagree. Then what might

be the best way to proceed? A unanimous answer would be to seek the right Guru

and act as per his advice. But if that is not possible for now, is there some

other alternative? Our revered Ravi shankar suggested manasa puja for worship.

That would be the best worship to offer. If you need a mantra to recite, the

best one would be, ..shrImAtre namaH..------------------------

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