Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I deleted the post where someone suggested I purchase a statue direct from India. It's complicated because... a. I don't really know anyone in India, b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to find, c. I am extremely short of funds. I met a friend of a friend at a party several years ago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagan communities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me, saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots of religious items. When I return to the States, I mark up the prices at least by 400 percent, and selling them pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain before I go next time, to get an idea what sort of items would sell really well?" Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though... I know that items ordered for the USA from India are marked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!) because of taxes, shipping costs, and the difference of economies. Since I started selling incenses at Pagan festivals, I realize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in the world... -- Len/ Kalipadma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 http://www.hindupaintings.com/product/ZC83/ This is a wood carved Heramba, very beutiful yet 425$. He is out there but he dont come cheap. You dont nead money to love Ganesh but you sure need it to be an art collector. Love, JamesLen Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote: I deleted the post where someone suggested I purchasea statue direct from India. It's complicatedbecause...a. I don't really know anyone in India,b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to find,c. I am extremely short of funds.I met a friend of a friend at a party several yearsago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagancommunities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me,saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots ofreligious items. When I return to the States, I markup the prices at least by 400 percent, and sellingthem pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain before Igo next time, to get an idea what sort of items wouldsell really well?"Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though...I know that items ordered for the USA from India aremarked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!)because of taxes, shipping costs, and the differenceof economies.Since I started selling incenses at Pagan festivals, Irealize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in theworld...-- Len/ Kalipadma Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 JimLen Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote: I deleted the post where someone suggested I purchasea statue direct from India. It's complicatedbecause...a. I don't really know anyone in India,b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to find,c. I am extremely short of funds.I met a friend of a friend at a party several yearsago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagancommunities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me,saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots ofreligious items. When I return to the States, I markup the prices at least by 400 percent, and sellingthem pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain before Igo next time, to get an idea what sort of items wouldsell really well?"Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though...I know that items ordered for the USA from India aremarked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!)because of taxes, shipping costs, and the differenceof economies.Since I started selling incenses at Pagan festivals, Irealize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in theworld...-- Len/ Kalipadma Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 -- james richard wrote: > Can you see the extreme irony? Heramaba Ganapati > statues are way over priced yet he is the protector > of the poor. I had to have a little cosmic chuckle > over that one. Which is why I suspect that the Heramba of my choice will be the one dwelling in my heart! You can keep these expensive deities who are cast from bronze or carved from wood. Actually, I found a site where a bronze Heramba (five faces, riding a lion) and ten inches tall was available, and the price quoted was around $250. But that's still beyond my current limited means. I don't have the cash to buy over-the-counter medications I need, or to get new underwear! So splurging on a metal deity just ain't gonna happen. A reference I came across says Heramba Ganapati is the patron of the handicapped (I have crippling arthritis). On another list, I'm being chided by a Hindu Brahmin who says I can't worship Heramba unless a Guru has initiated me in his mantra. So apparently I'm a heretic anyway. Anyone know a Tantric Guru who teaches Heramba's mantra? -- Len/ Kalipadma Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Hi Ever thought about a small clay, metal or wooden statue? I've just happen to come across some, take a look, http://astro.indiatimes.com/Astroshop/stoneidols.htm bye Braulio --- Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 wrote: > > I deleted the post where someone suggested I > purchase > a statue direct from India. It's complicated > because... > > a. I don't really know anyone in India, > b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to find, > c. I am extremely short of funds. > > I met a friend of a friend at a party several years > ago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagan > communities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me, > saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. > Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots of > religious items. When I return to the States, I > mark > up the prices at least by 400 percent, and selling > them pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain before > I > go next time, to get an idea what sort of items > would > sell really well?" > > Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though... > > I know that items ordered for the USA from India are > marked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!) > because of taxes, shipping costs, and the difference > of economies. > > Since I started selling incenses at Pagan festivals, > I > realize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in > the > world... > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Dear Len, I too have arthritis, but perhaps not as bad as yours. I find that if I eat no wheat flour or products, no rice flour or rice, and if I stay away from potatoes and sugar, it is much better. I eat a very natural diet--no processed foods, no margarine or processed oils--mainly just milk, sour cream, butter, fresh fruits and vegetables. When I desire a "pancake," I make one from chestnut flour, water and butter. I found the chestnut flour in the Chinese district, and it doesn't have any wheat flour in it. If I eat potatoes, flour or sugar, my body aches a lot. Doing this I am pain free. I learned about the importance of diet years ago when my blood sugar was high, and I was advised to stay away from sugar. At that time I had migraine headaches also, but when I went off sugar, they went away. I do daily meditations almost every day, and we are assured that when we belong to the Lord, we do not have diseases in our bodies. I realized then that my body was not diseased--I was poisoning it. At least this is my theory, and you may want to look at your diet. All the best to you. I know what that pain is. Heramba Ganesh will find you. You do not need to find Him. Barbara - Friday, March 04, 2005 9:04 PM Re: Heramba statue & inflated prices -- james richard wrote:> Can you see the extreme irony? Heramaba Ganapati> statues are way over priced yet he is the protector> of the poor. I had to have a little cosmic chuckle> over that one.Which is why I suspect that the Heramba of my choicewill be the one dwelling in my heart! You can keepthese expensive deities who are cast from bronze orcarved from wood.Actually, I found a site where a bronze Heramba (fivefaces, riding a lion) and ten inches tall wasavailable, and the price quoted was around $250. Butthat's still beyond my current limited means. I don'thave the cash to buy over-the-counter medications Ineed, or to get new underwear! So splurging on ametal deity just ain't gonna happen.A reference I came across says Heramba Ganapati is thepatron of the handicapped (I have cripplingarthritis). On another list, I'm being chided by aHindu Brahmin who says I can't worship Heramba unlessa Guru has initiated me in his mantra. So apparentlyI'm a heretic anyway. Anyone know a Tantric Guru whoteaches Heramba's mantra?-- Len/ Kalipadma Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 JimBraulio Suarez <kanyadragon > wrote: HiEver thought about a small clay, metal or woodenstatue?I've just happen to come across some, take a look,http://astro.indiatimes.com/Astroshop/stoneidols.htmbyeBraulio--- Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 > wrote:> > I deleted the post where someone suggested I> purchase> a statue direct from India. It's complicated> because...> > a. I don't really know anyone in India,> b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to find,> c. I am extremely short of funds.> > I met a friend of a friend at a party several years> ago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagan> communities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me,> saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. > Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots of> religious items. When I return to the States, I> mark> up the prices at least by 400 percent, and selling> them pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain before> I> go next time, to get an idea what sort of items> would> sell really well?"> > Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though...> > I know that items ordered for the USA from India are> marked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!)> because of taxes, shipping costs, and the difference> of economies.> > Since I started selling incenses at Pagan festivals,> I> realize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in> the> world...> > -- Len/ Kalipadma> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Regular Ganesha images are relatively easy to find. I'm looking for one with five faces, and riding on a lion. -- Len --- Braulio Suarez <kanyadragon wrote: > Hi > > Ever thought about a small clay, metal or wooden > statue? > I've just happen to come across some, take a look, > > http://astro.indiatimes.com/Astroshop/stoneidols.htm > > bye > > Braulio > --- Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 wrote: > > > > I deleted the post where someone suggested I > > purchase > > a statue direct from India. It's complicated > > because... > > > > a. I don't really know anyone in India, > > b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to > find, > > c. I am extremely short of funds. > > > > I met a friend of a friend at a party several > years > > ago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagan > > communities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me, > > saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. > > > Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots of > > religious items. When I return to the States, I > > mark > > up the prices at least by 400 percent, and selling > > them pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain > before > > I > > go next time, to get an idea what sort of items > > would > > sell really well?" > > > > Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though... > > > > I know that items ordered for the USA from India > are > > marked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!) > > because of taxes, shipping costs, and the > difference > > of economies. > > > > Since I started selling incenses at Pagan > festivals, > > I > > realize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in > > the > > world... > > > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! > Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday./netrospective/ > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 uninvisionable , unameable, words barely touch the tip of the iceburg. Love Jim"Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Len, I too have arthritis, but perhaps not as bad as yours. I find that if I eat no wheat flour or products, no rice flour or rice, and if I stay away from potatoes and sugar, it is much better. I eat a very natural diet--no processed foods, no margarine or processed oils--mainly just milk, sour cream, butter, fresh fruits and vegetables. When I desire a "pancake," I make one from chestnut flour, water and butter. I found the chestnut flour in the Chinese district, and it doesn't have any wheat flour in it. If I eat potatoes, flour or sugar, my body aches a lot. Doing this I am pain free. I learned about the importance of diet years ago when my blood sugar was high, and I was advised to stay away from sugar. At that time I had migraine headaches also, but when I went off sugar, they went away. I do daily meditations almost every day, and we are assured that when we belong to the Lord, we do not have diseases in our bodies. I realized then that my body was not diseased--I was poisoning it. At least this is my theory, and you may want to look at your diet. All the best to you. I know what that pain is. Heramba Ganesh will find you. You do not need to find Him. Barbara - Friday, March 04, 2005 9:04 PM Re: Heramba statue & inflated prices -- james richard wrote:> Can you see the extreme irony? Heramaba Ganapati> statues are way over priced yet he is the protector> of the poor. I had to have a little cosmic chuckle> over that one.Which is why I suspect that the Heramba of my choicewill be the one dwelling in my heart! You can keepthese expensive deities who are cast from bronze orcarved from wood.Actually, I found a site where a bronze Heramba (fivefaces, riding a lion) and ten inches tall wasavailable, and the price quoted was around $250. Butthat's still beyond my current limited means. I don'thave the cash to buy over-the-counter medications Ineed, or to get new underwear! So splurging on ametal deity just ain't gonna happen.A reference I came across says Heramba Ganapati is thepatron of the handicapped (I have cripplingarthritis). On another list, I'm being chided by aHindu Brahmin who says I can't worship Heramba unlessa Guru has initiated me in his mantra. So apparentlyI'm a heretic anyway. Anyone know a Tantric Guru whoteaches Heramba's mantra?-- Len/ Kalipadma Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Hi, Barb again here. I was wondering whether you could make your own Heramba Ganesha out of clay or paper mache. This would be less costly, and you could get exactly what you want. Clay is fairly costly, unless you can find a cheap source, but paper mache, I believe, requires only wire, old paper and paste. You can paint them to your choice. Best Regards, Barbara - james richard Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:34 AM Re: Heramba statue & inflated prices i agree with Barb. totally. You dont need the statue. Niether do I. I collect them more as a hobby than a spiritual need for the idle (Not that i dont use one for Puja). The statues are just for symbolism and inspiration. I dont believe that we can truly understand gods form or reason in this form. The best we can do is come close and just have faith. Do you notice that the Tao has no representitive diety. There are Gods that play a part in the religion but the eternal tao is uninvisionable , unameable, words barely touch the tip of the iceburg. Love Jim"Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Len, I too have arthritis, but perhaps not as bad as yours. I find that if I eat no wheat flour or products, no rice flour or rice, and if I stay away from potatoes and sugar, it is much better. I eat a very natural diet--no processed foods, no margarine or processed oils--mainly just milk, sour cream, butter, fresh fruits and vegetables. When I desire a "pancake," I make one from chestnut flour, water and butter. I found the chestnut flour in the Chinese district, and it doesn't have any wheat flour in it. If I eat potatoes, flour or sugar, my body aches a lot. Doing this I am pain free. I learned about the importance of diet years ago when my blood sugar was high, and I was advised to stay away from sugar. At that time I had migraine headaches also, but when I went off sugar, they went away. I do daily meditations almost every day, and we are assured that when we belong to the Lord, we do not have diseases in our bodies. I realized then that my body was not diseased--I was poisoning it. At least this is my theory, and you may want to look at your diet. All the best to you. I know what that pain is. Heramba Ganesh will find you. You do not need to find Him. Barbara - Friday, March 04, 2005 9:04 PM Re: Heramba statue & inflated prices -- james richard wrote:> Can you see the extreme irony? Heramaba Ganapati> statues are way over priced yet he is the protector> of the poor. I had to have a little cosmic chuckle> over that one.Which is why I suspect that the Heramba of my choicewill be the one dwelling in my heart! You can keepthese expensive deities who are cast from bronze orcarved from wood.Actually, I found a site where a bronze Heramba (fivefaces, riding a lion) and ten inches tall wasavailable, and the price quoted was around $250. Butthat's still beyond my current limited means. I don'thave the cash to buy over-the-counter medications Ineed, or to get new underwear! So splurging on ametal deity just ain't gonna happen.A reference I came across says Heramba Ganapati is thepatron of the handicapped (I have cripplingarthritis). On another list, I'm being chided by aHindu Brahmin who says I can't worship Heramba unlessa Guru has initiated me in his mantra. So apparentlyI'm a heretic anyway. Anyone know a Tantric Guru whoteaches Heramba's mantra?-- Len/ Kalipadma Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Hi, Barb again here. I was wondering whether you could make your own Heramba Ganesha out of clay or paper mache. This would be less costly, and you could get exactly what you want. Clay is fairly costly, unless you can find a cheap source, but paper mache, I believe, requires only wire, old paper and paste. You can paint them to your choice. Best Regards, Barbara - james richard Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:34 AM Re: Heramba statue & inflated prices i agree with Barb. totally. You dont need the statue. Niether do I. I collect them more as a hobby than a spiritual need for the idle (Not that i dont use one for Puja). The statues are just for symbolism and inspiration. I dont believe that we can truly understand gods form or reason in this form. The best we can do is come close and just have faith. Do you notice that the Tao has no representitive diety. There are Gods that play a part in the religion but the eternal tao is uninvisionable , unameable, words barely touch the tip of the iceburg. Love Jim"Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Len, I too have arthritis, but perhaps not as bad as yours. I find that if I eat no wheat flour or products, no rice flour or rice, and if I stay away from potatoes and sugar, it is much better. I eat a very natural diet--no processed foods, no margarine or processed oils--mainly just milk, sour cream, butter, fresh fruits and vegetables. When I desire a "pancake," I make one from chestnut flour, water and butter. I found the chestnut flour in the Chinese district, and it doesn't have any wheat flour in it. If I eat potatoes, flour or sugar, my body aches a lot. Doing this I am pain free. I learned about the importance of diet years ago when my blood sugar was high, and I was advised to stay away from sugar. At that time I had migraine headaches also, but when I went off sugar, they went away. I do daily meditations almost every day, and we are assured that when we belong to the Lord, we do not have diseases in our bodies. I realized then that my body was not diseased--I was poisoning it. At least this is my theory, and you may want to look at your diet. All the best to you. I know what that pain is. Heramba Ganesh will find you. You do not need to find Him. Barbara - Friday, March 04, 2005 9:04 PM Re: Heramba statue & inflated prices -- james richard wrote:> Can you see the extreme irony? Heramaba Ganapati> statues are way over priced yet he is the protector> of the poor. I had to have a little cosmic chuckle> over that one.Which is why I suspect that the Heramba of my choicewill be the one dwelling in my heart! You can keepthese expensive deities who are cast from bronze orcarved from wood.Actually, I found a site where a bronze Heramba (fivefaces, riding a lion) and ten inches tall wasavailable, and the price quoted was around $250. Butthat's still beyond my current limited means. I don'thave the cash to buy over-the-counter medications Ineed, or to get new underwear! So splurging on ametal deity just ain't gonna happen.A reference I came across says Heramba Ganapati is thepatron of the handicapped (I have cripplingarthritis). On another list, I'm being chided by aHindu Brahmin who says I can't worship Heramba unlessa Guru has initiated me in his mantra. So apparentlyI'm a heretic anyway. Anyone know a Tantric Guru whoteaches Heramba's mantra?-- Len/ Kalipadma Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 I'm not that skilled an artist! And especially with arthritic fingers... -- Len --- "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs wrote: > Hi, Barb again here. I was wondering whether you > could make your own Heramba Ganesha out of clay or > paper mache. This would be less costly, and you > could get exactly what you want. Clay is fairly > costly, unless you can find a cheap source, but > paper mache, I believe, requires only wire, old > paper and paste. You can paint them to your choice. > Best Regards, Barbara > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Yes, Jim this form, 5 headed Heramba, is absent in this site Braulio. --- james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > Hi, Great idea but I dont see the 5 headed Heramba > ganapati on this site. Its very easy to find the > standard one headed ganesha with the rat, but the > five headed Heramba is definately not as common. > > > Jim > > Braulio Suarez <kanyadragon wrote: > Hi > > Ever thought about a small clay, metal or wooden > statue? > I've just happen to come across some, take a look, > > http://astro.indiatimes.com/Astroshop/stoneidols.htm > > bye > > Braulio > --- Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108 wrote: > > > > I deleted the post where someone suggested I > > purchase > > a statue direct from India. It's complicated > > because... > > > > a. I don't really know anyone in India, > > b. the Heramba image is rare and difficult to > find, > > c. I am extremely short of funds. > > > > I met a friend of a friend at a party several > years > > ago. He had contacts in the New Age and Neo-Pagan > > communities here in Noo Yawk. He approached me, > > saying, "I understand you're both Pagan and Hindu. > > > Every few years I travel to India, and buy lots of > > religious items. When I return to the States, I > > mark > > up the prices at least by 400 percent, and selling > > them pays for my trip. Can I pick your brain > before > > I > > go next time, to get an idea what sort of items > > would > > sell really well?" > > > > Ha! Haven't heard from him since, though... > > > > I know that items ordered for the USA from India > are > > marked up as well (don't know if by 400 percent!) > > because of taxes, shipping costs, and the > difference > > of economies. > > > > Since I started selling incenses at Pagan > festivals, > > I > > realize how artificial and arbitrary prices are in > > the > > world... > > > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! > Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday./netrospective/ > > > http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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