Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Namaste Beloved Friends, Long time no see...!! Sorry I'd been a stranger for quite some time. Would like to chip in with 2 humble cents' worth: I am for His Holiness, Shirdi Sai Baba any time. He is not to be compared, or confused with the current Afro-hairdo Man with the large following, who certainly cannot hold a candle to Shirdi Sai Baba who is in His Own Right, a Legend. Though, to be a little fair, maybe we should not discount the hospitals and schools that Afro-hairdo Baba's organization has funded? Don't get me wrong, I would never in a zillion lifetimes go near his ashram Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah Simone , "trikashaivism" <Trikashaivism@o...> wrote: > > Namaste all, > > Henry is absolutely right - his following is huge! Probably the > biggest of any modern guru. But yes, there has been claims of less > than desirable behaviour and also murder related charges if I recall > correctly. If one was seeking a guru here is one that I personally > wouldn't go near. > > Om Shanti > Neil > > > , Henry Beck <henrywb@g...> wrote: > > He has an enormous following both in India and here, but there are > a > > large group of persons who accuse him of being a fraud and of > abusing > > children. > > > > Henry > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:24:25 -0800 (PST), james richard > > <nhraddude71> wrote: > > > > > > You are right Neil, I was thinking of the big afro dude. Is he a > big fake? > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > Neil <Trikashaivism@o...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Henry & Jim, > > > > > > Shri Sai Charita is wonderful, as is Shirdi Sai Baba himself > (not to be > > > confused with the bogus and abusive Satya Sai Baba of modern > times - the > > > Indian guru with big afro hair - who I think Jim may be thinking > of). Shirdi > > > Sai Baba is simply divine, quite literally. He is one of the > greatest sages > > > of the last few hundred years. > > > > > > I don't really know of Shirdi Sai Baba being addressed as > Ganesh, but I can > > > understand why. When you read of his leelas it is clearly > evident how he > > > removes the obstacles for his devotees and blesses them > continually. I would > > > whole-heartedly recommend to anyone within the group to read > about Shirdi > > > Sai Baba and his words. I find it difficult to imagine anyone > reading these > > > not to find their faith and devotion to the divine increase. > There are > > > plenty of groups dedicated to Shirdi Sai Baba and it is worth > reading some > > > of their postings. > > > > > > Similar to Shirdi Sai Baba the avadut Bhagavan Nityananda of > Ganeshpuri was > > > also thought by some to be an incarnation of Lord Ganesh. Like > Shirdi Sai > > > Baba, Nityananda was also surrounded by miracles and poured > forth blessings > > > to his devotees, and continues to. : ) Again I would recommend > his leelas > > > and words. > > > > > > The famous verse from the Guru Gita is: > > > > > > Gururbrahma gururvisnur > > > gururdevo mahesvarah, > > > Gurureva parabrahma > > > tasmai srigurave namah. > > > > > > The Guru is Brahma. The Guru is Vishnu. The Guru is Lord Shiva. > The Guru is > > > indeed Parabrahman. Salutations to Shri Guru. > > > > > > I guess we could even add to this Gururvighnahartar - The Guru > is Lord > > > Ganesh, the remover of obstacles! ; ) > > > > > > Om Shanti > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > james richard [nhraddude71] > > > 15 January 2005 14:03 > > > > > > Re: Shirdi Sai Baba > > > > > > > > > Hi Hank, I have heard of Shirdi Sai Baba before. I think he > might have been > > > in the Gueness book or some strange book like that. I have heard > of him > > > doing everything from pulling Shiva lingams out of fires that > where not > > > visible to anyone else untill he retrieved them and also pulling > leaves off > > > trees and turning them into candy for children. He is either a > really good > > > magician or a true avatar of the devign. I cant say Ive never > met him. As > > > for him being Ganeshas Avatar I havnt heard that one. I think it > depends on > > > the followers . Im sure others have refered to him as the > incarnation of > > > Vishnu . There is a lot about hinduism I dont understand like > why people > > > will stick needles through there cheaks and other body parts for > Taipusam to > > > honor Skanda (Like he is the be all end all). To me Ganesh draws > me we more > > > than Skanda. To me Ganesh represents Wisdom, Power, compassion, > Love and > > > skanda represents Arogance ,ignorance, bitterness and war. Ive > drawn these > > > conclusions mostly from the storie of the contest to circle the > universe for > > > the brides Siddhi and Boddhi. Not only did Ganesh best him > without even > > > trying, but Skanda wa so pissed after words he went off to live > in a cave > > > and live as hermit. To me Ganesh is like water and Skanda is > like rock. The > > > water may seem softer but it is always going to be more powerful > than the > > > rock. I guess the only reason I have any respect for him at all > is because > > > of his family and not because of his actions as an individual. > If you can > > > shed more light on the subject for me please do. > > > > > > One of > Gods own > > > prototypes, Jim > > > > > > Henry Beck <henrywb@g...> wrote: > > > Om Gam Ganapataye Namaha > > > > > > I have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a > collection of > > > stories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the author > > > identifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anything > > > related to this? > > > > > > Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Namaste Simoneji, >Though, to be a little fair, maybe we should not discount the hospitals and schools that Afro-hairdo Baba's organization has funded? Don't get me wrong, I would never in a zillion lifetimes go near his ashram > I did think about this too. I agree it is worth pointing out that his devotees have funded many good improvements to Indian communities such as hospitals (I know there has been at least one large one) and also bringing clean water to some villages, all of which too many people these days take for granted. Also agree to about how close to get to the ashram! Om Shanti Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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