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Om Gam Ganapataye Namaha

 

I have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a collection of

stories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the author

identifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anything

related to this?

 

Henry

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mostly from the storie of the contest to circle the universe for the brides

Siddhi and Boddhi. Not only did Ganesh best him without even trying, but Skanda

wa so pissed after words he went off to live in a cave and live as hermit. To me

Ganesh is like water and Skanda is like rock. The water may seem softer but it

is always going to be more powerful than the rock. I guess the only reason I

have any respect for him at all is because of his family and not because of his

actions as an individual. If you can shed more light on the subject for me

please do.

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prototypes, JimHenry Beck <henrywb > wrote:

Om Gam Ganapataye NamahaI have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a

collection ofstories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the

authoridentifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anythingrelated

to this?Henryhttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

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Namaste Henry & Jim,

 

Shri Sai Charita is wonderful, as is Shirdi Sai Baba himself (not to be confused

with the bogus and abusive Satya Sai Baba of modern times - the Indian guru

with big afro hair - who I think Jim may be thinking of). Shirdi Sai Baba is

simply divine, quite literally. He is one of the greatest sages of the last few

hundred years.

 

I don't really know of Shirdi Sai Baba being addressed as Ganesh, but I can

understand why. When you read of his leelas it is clearly evident how he

removes the obstacles for his devotees and blesses them continually. I would

whole-heartedly recommend to anyone within the group to read about Shirdi Sai

Baba and his words. I find it difficult to imagine anyone reading these not to

find their faith and devotion to the divine increase. There are plenty of

groups dedicated to Shirdi Sai Baba and it is worth reading some of their

postings.

 

Similar to Shirdi Sai Baba the avadut Bhagavan Nityananda of Ganeshpuri was also

thought by some to be an incarnation of Lord Ganesh. Like Shirdi Sai Baba,

Nityananda was also surrounded by miracles and poured forth blessings to his

devotees, and continues to. : ) Again I would recommend his leelas and words.

 

The famous verse from the Guru Gita is:

 

Gururbrahma gururvisnur

gururdevo mahesvarah,

Gurureva parabrahma

tasmai srigurave namah.

 

The Guru is Brahma. The Guru is Vishnu. The Guru is Lord Shiva. The Guru is

indeed Parabrahman. Salutations to Shri Guru.

 

I guess we could even add to this Gururvighnahartar - The Guru is Lord Ganesh,

the remover of obstacles! ; )

 

Om Shanti

Neil

 

james richard [nhraddude71 ]

15 January 2005 14:03Subject: Re:

Shirdi Sai Baba

Hi Hank, I have heard of Shirdi Sai Baba before. I think he might have been in

the Gueness book or some strange book like that. I have heard of him doing

everything from pulling Shiva lingams out of fires that where not visible to

anyone else untill he retrieved them and also pulling leaves off trees and

turning them into candy for children. He is either a really good magician or a

true avatar of the devign. I cant say Ive never met him. As for him being

Ganeshas Avatar I havnt heard that one. I think it depends on the followers .

Im sure others have refered to him as the incarnation of Vishnu . There is a

lot about hinduism I dont understand like why people will stick needles through

there cheaks and other body parts for Taipusam to honor Skanda (Like he is the

be all end all). To me Ganesh draws me we more than Skanda. To me Ganesh

represents Wisdom, Power, compassion, Love and skanda represents Arogance

,ignorance, bitterness and war. Ive drawn these conclusions mostly from the

storie of the contest to circle the universe for the brides Siddhi and Boddhi.

Not only did Ganesh best him without even trying, but Skanda wa so pissed after

words he went off to live in a cave and live as hermit. To me Ganesh is like

water and Skanda is like rock. The water may seem softer but it is always going

to be more powerful than the rock. I guess the only reason I have any respect

for him at all is because of his family and not because of his actions as an

individual. If you can shed more light on the subject for me please do.

One of Gods own

prototypes, JimHenry Beck <henrywb > wrote:

Om Gam Ganapataye NamahaI have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a

collection ofstories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the

authoridentifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anythingrelated

to this?Henryhttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

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Neil and Jim,

 

Yes I did not mean Satya Sai Baba, who some say may be a child abuser.

 

My friend and teacher is both a devotee of Neem Karoli Baba, and

Shirdi Sai Baba. He recently came from India and brought me the ashes

from his Dhuni which is kept burning at Shridi to this day.

 

Henry

 

 

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:23:32 -0000, Neil <Trikashaivism wrote:

>

> Namaste Henry & Jim,

>

> Shri Sai Charita is wonderful, as is Shirdi Sai Baba himself (not to be

> confused with the bogus and abusive Satya Sai Baba of modern times - the

> Indian guru with big afro hair - who I think Jim may be thinking of). Shirdi

> Sai Baba is simply divine, quite literally. He is one of the greatest sages

> of the last few hundred years.

>

> I don't really know of Shirdi Sai Baba being addressed as Ganesh, but I can

> understand why. When you read of his leelas it is clearly evident how he

> removes the obstacles for his devotees and blesses them continually. I would

> whole-heartedly recommend to anyone within the group to read about Shirdi

> Sai Baba and his words. I find it difficult to imagine anyone reading these

> not to find their faith and devotion to the divine increase. There are

> plenty of groups dedicated to Shirdi Sai Baba and it is worth reading some

> of their postings.

>

> Similar to Shirdi Sai Baba the avadut Bhagavan Nityananda of Ganeshpuri was

> also thought by some to be an incarnation of Lord Ganesh. Like Shirdi Sai

> Baba, Nityananda was also surrounded by miracles and poured forth blessings

> to his devotees, and continues to. : ) Again I would recommend his leelas

> and words.

>

> The famous verse from the Guru Gita is:

>

> Gururbrahma gururvisnur

> gururdevo mahesvarah,

> Gurureva parabrahma

> tasmai srigurave namah.

>

> The Guru is Brahma. The Guru is Vishnu. The Guru is Lord Shiva. The Guru is

> indeed Parabrahman. Salutations to Shri Guru.

>

> I guess we could even add to this Gururvighnahartar - The Guru is Lord

> Ganesh, the remover of obstacles! ; )

>

> Om Shanti

> Neil

>

>

>

>

>

>

> james richard [nhraddude71]

> 15 January 2005 14:03

>

> Re: Shirdi Sai Baba

>

>

> Hi Hank, I have heard of Shirdi Sai Baba before. I think he might have been

> in the Gueness book or some strange book like that. I have heard of him

> doing everything from pulling Shiva lingams out of fires that where not

> visible to anyone else untill he retrieved them and also pulling leaves off

> trees and turning them into candy for children. He is either a really good

> magician or a true avatar of the devign. I cant say Ive never met him. As

> for him being Ganeshas Avatar I havnt heard that one. I think it depends on

> the followers . Im sure others have refered to him as the incarnation of

> Vishnu . There is a lot about hinduism I dont understand like why people

> will stick needles through there cheaks and other body parts for Taipusam to

> honor Skanda (Like he is the be all end all). To me Ganesh draws me we more

> than Skanda. To me Ganesh represents Wisdom, Power, compassion, Love and

> skanda represents Arogance ,ignorance, bitterness and war. Ive drawn these

> conclusions mostly from the storie of the contest to circle the universe for

> the brides Siddhi and Boddhi. Not only did Ganesh best him without even

> trying, but Skanda wa so pissed after words he went off to live in a cave

> and live as hermit. To me Ganesh is like water and Skanda is like rock. The

> water may seem softer but it is always going to be more powerful than the

> rock. I guess the only reason I have any respect for him at all is because

> of his family and not because of his actions as an individual. If you can

> shed more light on the subject for me please do.

>

> One of Gods own

> prototypes, Jim

>

> Henry Beck <henrywb wrote:

> Om Gam Ganapataye Namaha

>

> I have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a collection of

> stories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the author

> identifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anything

> related to this?

>

> Henry

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

>

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

>

>

> ________________________________

> Links

>

>

> /

>

>

>

>

>

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JimNeil <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote:

Namaste Henry & Jim,

 

Shri Sai Charita is wonderful, as is Shirdi Sai Baba himself (not to be confused

with the bogus and abusive Satya Sai Baba of modern times - the Indian guru

with big afro hair - who I think Jim may be thinking of). Shirdi Sai Baba is

simply divine, quite literally. He is one of the greatest sages of the last few

hundred years.

 

I don't really know of Shirdi Sai Baba being addressed as Ganesh, but I can

understand why. When you read of his leelas it is clearly evident how he

removes the obstacles for his devotees and blesses them continually. I would

whole-heartedly recommend to anyone within the group to read about Shirdi Sai

Baba and his words. I find it difficult to imagine anyone reading these not to

find their faith and devotion to the divine increase. There are plenty of

groups dedicated to Shirdi Sai Baba and it is worth reading some of their

postings.

 

Similar to Shirdi Sai Baba the avadut Bhagavan Nityananda of Ganeshpuri was also

thought by some to be an incarnation of Lord Ganesh. Like Shirdi Sai Baba,

Nityananda was also surrounded by miracles and poured forth blessings to his

devotees, and continues to. : ) Again I would recommend his leelas and words.

 

The famous verse from the Guru Gita is:

 

Gururbrahma gururvisnur

gururdevo mahesvarah,

Gurureva parabrahma

tasmai srigurave namah.

 

The Guru is Brahma. The Guru is Vishnu. The Guru is Lord Shiva. The Guru is

indeed Parabrahman. Salutations to Shri Guru.

 

I guess we could even add to this Gururvighnahartar - The Guru is Lord Ganesh,

the remover of obstacles! ; )

 

Om Shanti

Neil

 

james richard [nhraddude71 ]

15 January 2005 14:03Subject: Re:

Shirdi Sai Baba

Hi Hank, I have heard of Shirdi Sai Baba before. I think he might have been in

the Gueness book or some strange book like that. I have heard of him doing

everything from pulling Shiva lingams out of fires that where not visible to

anyone else untill he retrieved them and also pulling leaves off trees and

turning them into candy for children. He is either a really good magician or a

true avatar of the devign. I cant say Ive never met him. As for him being

Ganeshas Avatar I havnt heard that one. I think it depends on the followers .

Im sure others have refered to him as the incarnation of Vishnu . There is a

lot about hinduism I dont understand like why people will stick needles through

there cheaks and other body parts for Taipusam to honor Skanda (Like he is the

be all end all). To me Ganesh draws me we more than Skanda. To me Ganesh

represents Wisdom, Power, compassion, Love and skanda represents Arogance

,ignorance, bitterness and war. Ive drawn these conclusions

mostly from the storie of the contest to circle the universe for the brides

Siddhi and Boddhi. Not only did Ganesh best him without even trying, but Skanda

wa so pissed after words he went off to live in a cave and live as hermit. To me

Ganesh is like water and Skanda is like rock. The water may seem softer but it

is always going to be more powerful than the rock. I guess the only reason I

have any respect for him at all is because of his family and not because of his

actions as an individual. If you can shed more light on the subject for me

please do.

One of Gods own

prototypes, JimHenry Beck <henrywb > wrote:

Om Gam Ganapataye NamahaI have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a

collection ofstories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the

authoridentifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anythingrelated

to this?Henryhttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

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He has an enormous following both in India and here, but there are a

large group of persons who accuse him of being a fraud and of abusing

children.

 

Henry

 

 

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:24:25 -0800 (PST), james richard

<nhraddude71 wrote:

>

> You are right Neil, I was thinking of the big afro dude. Is he a big fake?

>

>

> Jim

>

>

> Neil <Trikashaivism wrote:

>

>

> Namaste Henry & Jim,

>

> Shri Sai Charita is wonderful, as is Shirdi Sai Baba himself (not to be

> confused with the bogus and abusive Satya Sai Baba of modern times - the

> Indian guru with big afro hair - who I think Jim may be thinking of). Shirdi

> Sai Baba is simply divine, quite literally. He is one of the greatest sages

> of the last few hundred years.

>

> I don't really know of Shirdi Sai Baba being addressed as Ganesh, but I can

> understand why. When you read of his leelas it is clearly evident how he

> removes the obstacles for his devotees and blesses them continually. I would

> whole-heartedly recommend to anyone within the group to read about Shirdi

> Sai Baba and his words. I find it difficult to imagine anyone reading these

> not to find their faith and devotion to the divine increase. There are

> plenty of groups dedicated to Shirdi Sai Baba and it is worth reading some

> of their postings.

>

> Similar to Shirdi Sai Baba the avadut Bhagavan Nityananda of Ganeshpuri was

> also thought by some to be an incarnation of Lord Ganesh. Like Shirdi Sai

> Baba, Nityananda was also surrounded by miracles and poured forth blessings

> to his devotees, and continues to. : ) Again I would recommend his leelas

> and words.

>

> The famous verse from the Guru Gita is:

>

> Gururbrahma gururvisnur

> gururdevo mahesvarah,

> Gurureva parabrahma

> tasmai srigurave namah.

>

> The Guru is Brahma. The Guru is Vishnu. The Guru is Lord Shiva. The Guru is

> indeed Parabrahman. Salutations to Shri Guru.

>

> I guess we could even add to this Gururvighnahartar - The Guru is Lord

> Ganesh, the remover of obstacles! ; )

>

> Om Shanti

> Neil

>

>

>

>

>

> james richard [nhraddude71]

> 15 January 2005 14:03

>

> Re: Shirdi Sai Baba

>

>

> Hi Hank, I have heard of Shirdi Sai Baba before. I think he might have been

> in the Gueness book or some strange book like that. I have heard of him

> doing everything from pulling Shiva lingams out of fires that where not

> visible to anyone else untill he retrieved them and also pulling leaves off

> trees and turning them into candy for children. He is either a really good

> magician or a true avatar of the devign. I cant say Ive never met him. As

> for him being Ganeshas Avatar I havnt heard that one. I think it depends on

> the followers . Im sure others have refered to him as the incarnation of

> Vishnu . There is a lot about hinduism I dont understand like why people

> will stick needles through there cheaks and other body parts for Taipusam to

> honor Skanda (Like he is the be all end all). To me Ganesh draws me we more

> than Skanda. To me Ganesh represents Wisdom, Power, compassion, Love and

> skanda represents Arogance ,ignorance, bitterness and war. Ive drawn these

> conclusions mostly from the storie of the contest to circle the universe for

> the brides Siddhi and Boddhi. Not only did Ganesh best him without even

> trying, but Skanda wa so pissed after words he went off to live in a cave

> and live as hermit. To me Ganesh is like water and Skanda is like rock. The

> water may seem softer but it is always going to be more powerful than the

> rock. I guess the only reason I have any respect for him at all is because

> of his family and not because of his actions as an individual. If you can

> shed more light on the subject for me please do.

>

> One of Gods own

> prototypes, Jim

>

> Henry Beck <henrywb wrote:

> Om Gam Ganapataye Namaha

>

> I have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a collection of

> stories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the author

> identifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anything

> related to this?

>

> Henry

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

>

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

>

>

> ________________________________

> Links

>

>

> /

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Namaste all,

 

Henry is absolutely right - his following is huge! Probably the

biggest of any modern guru. But yes, there has been claims of less

than desirable behaviour and also murder related charges if I recall

correctly. If one was seeking a guru here is one that I personally

wouldn't go near.

 

Om Shanti

Neil

 

 

, Henry Beck <henrywb@g...> wrote:

> He has an enormous following both in India and here, but there are

a

> large group of persons who accuse him of being a fraud and of

abusing

> children.

>

> Henry

>

>

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:24:25 -0800 (PST), james richard

> <nhraddude71> wrote:

> >

> > You are right Neil, I was thinking of the big afro dude. Is he a

big fake?

> >

>

>

 

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > Neil <Trikashaivism@o...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Namaste Henry & Jim,

> >

> > Shri Sai Charita is wonderful, as is Shirdi Sai Baba himself

(not to be

> > confused with the bogus and abusive Satya Sai Baba of modern

times - the

> > Indian guru with big afro hair - who I think Jim may be thinking

of). Shirdi

> > Sai Baba is simply divine, quite literally. He is one of the

greatest sages

> > of the last few hundred years.

> >

> > I don't really know of Shirdi Sai Baba being addressed as

Ganesh, but I can

> > understand why. When you read of his leelas it is clearly

evident how he

> > removes the obstacles for his devotees and blesses them

continually. I would

> > whole-heartedly recommend to anyone within the group to read

about Shirdi

> > Sai Baba and his words. I find it difficult to imagine anyone

reading these

> > not to find their faith and devotion to the divine increase.

There are

> > plenty of groups dedicated to Shirdi Sai Baba and it is worth

reading some

> > of their postings.

> >

> > Similar to Shirdi Sai Baba the avadut Bhagavan Nityananda of

Ganeshpuri was

> > also thought by some to be an incarnation of Lord Ganesh. Like

Shirdi Sai

> > Baba, Nityananda was also surrounded by miracles and poured

forth blessings

> > to his devotees, and continues to. : ) Again I would recommend

his leelas

> > and words.

> >

> > The famous verse from the Guru Gita is:

> >

> > Gururbrahma gururvisnur

> > gururdevo mahesvarah,

> > Gurureva parabrahma

> > tasmai srigurave namah.

> >

> > The Guru is Brahma. The Guru is Vishnu. The Guru is Lord Shiva.

The Guru is

> > indeed Parabrahman. Salutations to Shri Guru.

> >

> > I guess we could even add to this Gururvighnahartar - The Guru

is Lord

> > Ganesh, the remover of obstacles! ; )

> >

> > Om Shanti

> > Neil

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > james richard [nhraddude71]

> > 15 January 2005 14:03

> >

> > Re: Shirdi Sai Baba

> >

> >

> > Hi Hank, I have heard of Shirdi Sai Baba before. I think he

might have been

> > in the Gueness book or some strange book like that. I have heard

of him

> > doing everything from pulling Shiva lingams out of fires that

where not

> > visible to anyone else untill he retrieved them and also pulling

leaves off

> > trees and turning them into candy for children. He is either a

really good

> > magician or a true avatar of the devign. I cant say Ive never

met him. As

> > for him being Ganeshas Avatar I havnt heard that one. I think it

depends on

> > the followers . Im sure others have refered to him as the

incarnation of

> > Vishnu . There is a lot about hinduism I dont understand like

why people

> > will stick needles through there cheaks and other body parts for

Taipusam to

> > honor Skanda (Like he is the be all end all). To me Ganesh draws

me we more

> > than Skanda. To me Ganesh represents Wisdom, Power, compassion,

Love and

> > skanda represents Arogance ,ignorance, bitterness and war. Ive

drawn these

> > conclusions mostly from the storie of the contest to circle the

universe for

> > the brides Siddhi and Boddhi. Not only did Ganesh best him

without even

> > trying, but Skanda wa so pissed after words he went off to live

in a cave

> > and live as hermit. To me Ganesh is like water and Skanda is

like rock. The

> > water may seem softer but it is always going to be more powerful

than the

> > rock. I guess the only reason I have any respect for him at all

is because

> > of his family and not because of his actions as an individual.

If you can

> > shed more light on the subject for me please do.

> >

> > One of

Gods own

> > prototypes, Jim

> >

> > Henry Beck <henrywb@g...> wrote:

> > Om Gam Ganapataye Namaha

> >

> > I have started reading Shri Sai Satcharita, which is a

collection of

> > stories about Shirdi Sai Baba. In the first chapter the author

> > identifies Sai as being Ganapaty. Has anyone else heard anything

> > related to this?

> >

> > Henry

> >

> >

> > http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Links

> >

> >

> > /

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

Service.

> >

> >

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Namaste Henry,

 

 

> My friend and teacher is both a devotee of Neem Karoli Baba, and

> Shirdi Sai Baba. He recently came from India and brought me the

>ashes from his Dhuni which is kept burning at Shridi to this day.

 

Excellent Henry! You are very fortunate friend. If approached with a

good bhav you have something very very wonderful there. May you find

blessings in it.

 

Om Shanti

Neil

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