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All is ONE and different.

Prabhupada was initiated at the Brahma Sampradaya not the Rudra(Siva)

Sampradaya. He explains the position of Lord Siva (the greatest vaishnava) at

the Srimad Bhagavatam chapter four. Besides he also recommends to invoke Lord

Ganesh before the puja to Lord Krishna.

You also can read the book

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/books/dws_youth/

 

Om Sri Ganesh Namah

Manu

 

Skud Thirteen <skud_13 > wrote:

 

I'd have to say that I somewhat agree with Tang, but I think that dangerous is a

little overstated i think its more or less a little ignorant on the part of

Prabupada. Siva is hardly a Demigod lets remember who Siva is and who Siva was

even prior to the vedic era. I stopped reading Prabupada's version after he

called "Siva a Demigodand told the girls who were worshipping Siva not to

waste there time" and made fun of them. A little insulting to us Saivites at

least it was to me. So Im sure there are better, less Ignorant versions

available for reading.

 

Aum Namah Sivaya

Ardan

manuel callan <mcallan2007 > wrote:

Hi,

There are hundreds versions of the B.G. but the Prabupada`s version remark the

personal position of Lord Krishna not the impersonal.

Why is dangerous??? is just another point of view based on the bhakti yoga.

The problem is the state of mind of the reader tangchikhay <tangchikhay (AT) (DOT) es> wrote:

i would like to comment on what campbell said about the Bhagavad Gita .. it is

absoulutely accurate to say that Lord Krishna was speaking from an impersonal

point of view, and when he showed Arjuna his four armed form and later all the

other forms ..Arjuna was in awe that all was within Lord Krishna and that Lord

Krishna is in all of them.. The ISKON version is a very dangerous version of

the Bhagavad Gita .. and this is the reason why i saw so .. if u take a look

it.. u will notice how that vesion is actually divided into two parts -1) what

Lord Krishna said to Arjuna and 2) The purport.. what Prabubada said..and the

reason why i said that the ISKON version is dangerous and unhealhty is that

this Prabubada guy has inserted TOO MANY of his own opinions.. for example the

definition of demi-Gods.. did Lord Krishna ever told

Arjuna that Lord shiva or Goddess lakshmi as a demigod? NO.. NEVER.. but

prabubada inserted mostly saivate deities into the demi God category .. ISKON

is a religious institution with a very vivid and focus attention towards some

political and economical agendas.. ciao tang ,

"Neil Campbell" <pashu@t...> wrote:> Namaste James,> > >Your words have been

like medicine to my mind.>> > I am pleased if they were of use.> > >I guess I

had the wronf impression because Ive heard from many that> Ganesh loves sweets

and I guess I took it the wrong way ,like it was a> desire for sweets.>> > You

are not alone! I think we all make similar interpretations along> the way. It

seems that one's understanding starts off by taking these> matters in a quite

literal sense, but

then moves on to a less literal> interpretation and starts to look for deeper

meanings in the symbolism> of the murtis or in the scriptures. We all seem to

go from gross to> subtle to causal and beyond.eventually! LOL However if

one's> understanding does not grow in wisdom we eventually get to the point>

down the road of a purely literal interpretation and this in turns grows> into

fundamentalism, hence much of religion across the world today is in> a poor

state of affairs.> > >You are very correct about my limited knowledge of

Ganesh. Most> everything Ive learned about him has been on the net.>> > And

the net is full of wonders and gems, it is a treasure chest for> sure, but

often you just have to know where to dig. For, as I'm sure> you know, there is

a lot of rubbish on the net too.> > >Is there a

text for Ganesh like how Krishna has the Bagavahdgita. I> find that most book

stores religion/philosophy sections have nothing. I> guess I have to be more

dilligent and find some books online.>> > Well, the Bhagavad Gita kind of goes

across the board really. Even> though Krishna is the main speaker in it he

speaks from the point of the> impersonal Absolute. Many different Hindu sects

hold the Bhagavad Gita> as a true gem, not just the Vaishnava sects (on a

personal note I> wouldn't recommend the Isckon/Hare Krishna version, As It Is).

I don't> know if the ancient Ganapata sects held the BG in high esteem, but I>

imagine they would have viewed it with high regard. So please don't> think

that Bhagavad Gita is only for devotees of Krishna, far from it.> The modern

book Loving Ganesha would probably be your best bet this now> James for a

book on Ganesh. This covers many aspects of Ganesh and is> easily readable. It

is also online, so it is easy to hand at>

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/books/lg/lg_table_of_contents.html> There are

also many decent translations of the Gita online as well,> should you be

interested.> > > Om Shanti> > Neilhttp://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/

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