signifigance of ganesh's origin-Thanks for the info

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I think it is fair to compare the mysteries of the Puranas to taht pf the

Parables in the Bible, and I mention this for the sake of some with Judeo-

Christian background. Both "myths" and "parables" represented in those

respective scriptures are often painted in very simplistic stories,to paint a

much larger picture taht would in turn, show humanity a tiny slice of Godhead,

who is himself limitless for our finite human intellect. The story of lord

ganapati's origin should not be taken for it's face value only.. Lord Ganapati

is God, he is never created and never will he ever be destroyed, but in this

purana.. it is to illustrate the essential participation and relationship

between the male/Shiva and female/ Parvati aspect of Godhood.. When Lord shiva

walked into the Paravati's bath without first seeking her permission, he

violated Parvati's need for privacy .. and this situation can be likened to that

of a careless devotee approaching the murthy in the temple without the priest's

assistance.. and when paravti created ganapati, she in turn violated the cosmic

rule in which male and female energies are needed for creation.. and by placing

Ganapati to guard the door (this is also the reason why we invoke Lord ganapati

first before anyone else, as he is always "guarding" and removing obstacles for

us) the without first informing Lord Shiva, it was her way to "punish" Lord

Shiva - something of passive aggressive .. and when Lord Shiva gave Lord

Ganapati a new head.. it is thus balanced.. Lord Shiva participated in the

birth of Lord Ganapati, Goddess Parvati is appeased and Lord Shiva is glorified

through his wisdom .. I hope this will help.. ciao --- In

, "nhraddude71" <nhraddude71>

wrote:> I used to think I had it all figured out when I was > just

a taoist with buddhist tendencies. I dont understand the birth > of ganesh. Why

would Parvati care if Vishnu saw her in the bath? Why > would she create a son

to have to battle Vishnu the lord of creation?> She must have had some Idea of

what the outcome of that > confrontation would be. Also If Vishnu is so

powerful then why was he> so intimidated by Parvati's wrath that he restored

Ganapati and > granted him deity status first before all others. And if all

gods > are truly one does that mean that the whole drama just took place in >

the mind of the Brahman. I would love to hear others opinions and >

interpretations of this. Please dont look at my questions as > insulent.> I

mean no disrespect .I love sri Ganesh and truly wish to

understand > him. I know this must be my path. Why else would I find a

beautiful> brass cast 12'' statue of Ganapati for sale in a discount clothing >

store for 30$. It was like fate.> Hearing and understanding are to

different things. I > hear, now I wish to understand.> >

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ThankYou, As I mentioned before Im ignorant to a lot of things. Itry to make

sense of a lot of things on my own and I dont always hit the nail on the head.

Th Reason I compared Sri Ganesh with Christ is because Christianity was my

first teaching. It is just very hard as an adult to accept the fact that one

mans death will wash away my sins as long as I believe in him. I feal

responsible for the weight of my own actions and thoughts.

I feal it is my responsibility to train my mind and realize my true self rather

than just thinking that my baptism is a free ticket to paradise. Christ was a

great man but left to many loop holes and cryptic messages. There is not enogh

information on how to find

him within yourself such as what the teachings of the Buddhas before him.

Thank you for interpreting the story of the birth of Ganesh. My western mind

wanted to seperate the father mother and son as individuals instead of being

one. I feal kind of stupid like I should have seen this all along. I gues thats

what happens when one of the ten commandments in the old testament is" I am the

lord thy God ,thow shalt not have false gods before me". Then they throw in the

hole trinity as one deal and the whole thing gets confusing. One more thing. If

one worships Ganes is ther a need to worship other gods or Gana if they are all

present within ganesh anyway?

Thanks for

the wisdom,Jamestangchikhay <tangchikhay (AT) (DOT) es> wrote:

I think it is fair to compare the mysteries of the Puranas to taht pf the

Parables in the Bible, and I mention this for the sake of some with Judeo-

Christian background. Both "myths" and "parables" represented in those

respective scriptures are often painted in very simplistic stories,to paint a

much larger picture taht would in turn, show humanity a tiny slice of Godhead,

who is himself limitless for our finite human intellect. The story of lord

ganapati's origin should not be taken for it's face value only.. Lord Ganapati

is God, he is never created and never will he ever be destroyed, but in this

purana.. it is to illustrate the essential participation and relationship

between the male/Shiva and female/ Parvati aspect of Godhood.. When Lord shiva

walked into the Paravati's bath without first seeking her permission, he

violated Parvati's need for privacy .. and this situation can be likened to that

of a careless devotee approaching the murthy in the temple without the priest's

assistance.. and when paravti created ganapati, she in turn violated the cosmic

rule in which male and female energies are needed for creation.. and by placing

Ganapati to guard the door (this is also the reason why we invoke Lord ganapati

first before anyone else, as he is always "guarding" and removing obstacles for

us) the without first informing Lord Shiva, it was her way to "punish" Lord

Shiva - something of passive aggressive .. and when Lord Shiva gave Lord

Ganapati a new head.. it is thus balanced.. Lord Shiva participated in the

birth of Lord Ganapati, Goddess Parvati is appeased and Lord Shiva is glorified

through his wisdom .. I hope this will help.. ciao --- In

, "nhraddude71" <nhraddude71>

wrote:> I used to think I had it all figured out when I was > just

a taoist with buddhist tendencies. I dont understand the birth > of ganesh. Why

would Parvati care if Vishnu saw her in the bath? Why > would she create a son

to have to battle Vishnu the lord of creation?> She must have had some Idea of

what the outcome of that > confrontation would be. Also If Vishnu is so

powerful then why was he> so intimidated by Parvati's wrath that he restored

Ganapati and > granted him deity status first before all others. And if all

gods > are truly one does that mean that the whole drama just took place in >

the mind of the Brahman. I would love to hear others opinions and >

interpretations of this. Please dont look at my questions as > insulent.> I

mean no disrespect .I love sri Ganesh and truly wish to

understand > him. I know this must be my path. Why else would I find a

beautiful> brass cast 12'' statue of Ganapati for sale in a discount clothing >

store for 30$. It was like fate.> Hearing and understanding are to

different things. I > hear, now I wish to understand.> >

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