Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 I ignore a lot about pujas and so on, but concerning your intuitions, well I am being dragged into situations in the last days where Ganesha had something to do with it...in one occasion it was meeting an iskon guru and exchange what we had to exchange between us (he gave me a message and I gave him one), and in another occasion, it was meeting a person in my own town but who contacted me in this forum. it was amazing because when leaving him after we met yesterday, in the subway metro of Madrid, there was an advertising with a picture of Ganesha..the statue was like governing a group of precious stones and the advertise said "reuniting the world gems"...funny enough that was what I thought about this meeting with this person...that it was a reunification..or re-connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 I would not be surprised were we one day to learn that this is how the Indians "received" the Vedic traditions from whoever went before (Atlantis? Sirius? the Pleidies? from regions forever unknown?). They received them as unabashed Indians and thus the wisdom could take root and blossom. As your buddy Trungpa once put it, we must start from where we're at. Ganesh in the Madrid metro? Uniting all the gems in the world? It doesn't, in my book, get much better than that... aqesa wrote: I ignore a lot about pujas and so on, but concerning your intuitions, well I am being dragged into situations in the last days where Ganesha had something to do with it...in one occasion it was meeting an iskon guru and exchange what we had to exchange between us (he gave me a message and I gave him one), and in another occasion, it was meeting a person in my own town but who contacted me in this forum. it was amazing because when leaving him after we met yesterday, in the subway metro of Madrid, there was an advertising with a picture of Ganesha..the statue was like governing a group of precious stones and the advertise said "reuniting the world gems"...funny enough that was what I thought about this meeting with this person...that it was a reunification..or re-connection.To from this group, send an email to:-http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Your use of is subject to the HotJobs, a service - Search Thousands of New Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Well I don´t know where our opinions differ perhaps because I find interesting to read C. Trungpa? I understand the point you are making of being westerners and at the same time attracted to the wisdom of other cultures. In my case, I just integrate wisdom with simplicity and spontaneity not trying to pretend to be something I am not...or to mimic another culture. (About mimic, the other day I had some thoughts about the word MONKEY. It has MONK inside, and it has Key. Monkeys are supposed to Mimic, so perhaps the message I got by analysing the word monkey is telling me more than a simple mimic. Sometimes we imitate or copy without thinking too much,but a mimic is also the reproduction of an arquetype. For instance, Zazen as Master Dogen explains is the very core of zen teachings and it is the way Buddha has tough us to practice the way of enlightnement according to the zen tradition. By sitting as did Buddha, we are in a way, copying his way, and the zazen would be a kind of arquetype for the human mind, a connection with the full meaning of sitting in meditation as did Buddha to achieve enlightnementt. So it is not a simple imitation of the way Buddha sat. It is a connection with an arquetype created 2,500 years ago, and cultivated by many other beings since, and before that). Going back to your interesting point about being westerners and practising oriental traditions, I have a deep feeling of reuniting whatever is beneficial for me in the spiritual path without considering where it comes from as long as the direct experience of it shows its benefits...I myself don´t have a feeling of belonging to one specific country, I don´t have land attachements or cultural attachments, mainly due to my education, family history and spirit of travel...Besides, all this is about letting go, not about putting in, so whatever helps us to let go, is beneficial. lets see what is Sri Ganesha up to...sounds interesting Love Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 When I think of Ganapati's multitudes I must conclude that they are vast as cosmic winds...and the wisdom which we study and love did not necessarily spring full blown from some rishi's forehead nor,even, did it necessarily spring forth from generations of earth-rishis... Sidebar: there was today another spam avalanche here, for which I give thanks. It prodded me (perhaps with its single tusk?) to figure out how to block senders on this thread. aqesa wrote: Well I don´t know where our opinions differ perhaps because I find interesting to read C. Trungpa? I understand the point you are making of being westerners and at the same time attracted to the wisdom of other cultures. In my case, I just integrate wisdom with simplicity and spontaneity not trying to pretend to be something I am not...or to mimic another culture.(About mimic, the other day I had some thoughts about the word MONKEY. It has MONK inside, and it has Key. Monkeys are supposed to Mimic, so perhaps the message I got by analysing the word monkey is telling me more than a simple mimic. Sometimes we imitate or copy without thinking too much,but a mimic is also the reproduction of an arquetype. For instance, Zazen as Master Dogen explains is the very core of zen teachings and it is the way Buddha has tough us to practice the way of enlightnement according to the zen tradition. By sitting as did Buddha, we are in a way, copying his way, and the zazen would be a kind of arquetype for the human mind, a connection with the full meaning of sitting in meditation as did Buddha to achieve enlightnementt. So it is not a simple imitation of the way Buddha sat. It is a connection with an arquetype created 2,500 years ago, and cultivated by many other beings since, and before that).Going back to your interesting point about being westerners and practising oriental traditions, I have a deep feeling of reuniting whatever is beneficial for me in the spiritual path without considering where it comes from as long as the direct experience of it shows its benefits...I myself don´t have a feeling of belonging to one specific country, I don´t have land attachements or cultural attachments, mainly due to my education, family history and spirit of travel...Besides, all this is about letting go, not about putting in, so whatever helps us to let go, is beneficial.lets see what is Sri Ganesha up to...sounds interestingLoveBarbaraTo from this group, send an email to:-http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Your use of is subject to the HotJobs, a service - Search Thousands of New Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Well I have also the same feeling that we are not alone here in this space and that we are not the most advanced. Indeed even the old indian sacred texts speak of fying machines and incredible weapons...Dogons in Mali recon their cosmology was explained by some visitors from Sirius planet, The australian aborigenes speak of the Sky Heroes as those who delivered them their wisdom, not to mention the mayans and so on...well, there are tons of information outside about this, and best of all, inside ourselves. at least in my case, all this possibility makes a lot of sens... still it is the same principle, wherever this wisdom comes from, if it is beneficial, then fantastic, use it and let go, and if it is not of use, then drop it...at the end it is all a bunch of empty words if we do not put them in practice and experience ourselves. Love Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 aqesa wrote: Well I have also the same feeling that we are not alone here in this space and that we are not the most advanced. Indeed even the old indian sacred texts speak of fying machines and incredible weapons...Dogons in Mali recon their cosmology was explained by some visitors from Sirius planet, The australian aborigenes speak of the Sky Heroes as those who delivered them their wisdom, not to mention the mayans and so on...well, there are tons of information outside about this, and best of all, inside ourselves. at least in my case, all this possibility makes a lot of sens...still it is the same principle, wherever this wisdom comes from, if it is beneficial, then fantastic, use it and let go, and if it is not of use, then drop it...at the end it is all a bunch of empty words if we do not put them in practice and experience ourselves.LoveBarbaraTo from this group, send an email to:-http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Your use of is subject to the HotJobs, a service - Search Thousands of New Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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