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I ignore a lot about pujas and so on, but concerning your intuitions,

well I am being dragged into situations in the last days where Ganesha

had something to do with it...in one occasion it was meeting an iskon

guru and exchange what we had to exchange between us (he gave me a

message and I gave him one), and in another occasion, it was meeting a

person in my own town but who contacted me in this forum. it was

amazing because when leaving him after we met yesterday, in the subway

metro of Madrid, there was an advertising with a picture of

Ganesha..the statue was like governing a group of precious stones and

the advertise said "reuniting the world gems"...funny enough that was

what I thought about this meeting with this person...that it was a

reunification..or re-connection.

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I would not be surprised were we one day to learn that this is how the Indians

"received" the Vedic traditions from whoever went before (Atlantis? Sirius?

the Pleidies? from regions forever unknown?). They received them as unabashed

Indians and thus the wisdom could take root and blossom. As your buddy Trungpa

once put it, we must start from where we're at.

Ganesh in the Madrid metro? Uniting all the gems in the world? It doesn't, in

my book, get much better than that...

 

 

aqesa wrote:

I ignore a lot about pujas and so on, but concerning your intuitions, well I am

being dragged into situations in the last days where Ganesha had something to

do with it...in one occasion it was meeting an iskon guru and exchange what we

had to exchange between us (he gave me a message and I gave him one), and in

another occasion, it was meeting a person in my own town but who contacted me

in this forum. it was amazing because when leaving him after we met yesterday,

in the subway metro of Madrid, there was an advertising with a picture of

Ganesha..the statue was like governing a group of precious stones and the

advertise said "reuniting the world gems"...funny enough that was what I

thought about this meeting with this person...that it was a reunification..or

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Well I don´t know where our opinions differ perhaps because I find

interesting to read C. Trungpa?

 

I understand the point you are making of being westerners and at the

same time attracted to the wisdom of other cultures. In my case, I just

integrate wisdom with simplicity and spontaneity not trying to pretend

to be something I am not...or to mimic another culture.

 

(About mimic, the other day I had some thoughts about the word MONKEY.

It has MONK inside, and it has Key. Monkeys are supposed to Mimic, so

perhaps the message I got by analysing the word monkey is telling me

more than a simple mimic. Sometimes we imitate or copy without thinking

too much,but a mimic is also the reproduction of an arquetype. For

instance, Zazen as Master Dogen explains is the very core of zen

teachings and it is the way Buddha has tough us to practice the way of

enlightnement according to the zen tradition. By sitting as did Buddha,

we are in a way, copying his way, and the zazen would be a kind of

arquetype for the human mind, a connection with the full meaning of

sitting in meditation as did Buddha to achieve enlightnementt. So it is

not a simple imitation of the way Buddha sat. It is a connection with

an arquetype created 2,500 years ago, and cultivated by many other

beings since, and before that).

 

Going back to your interesting point about being westerners and

practising oriental traditions, I have a deep feeling of reuniting

whatever is beneficial for me in the spiritual path without considering

where it comes from as long as the direct experience of it shows its

benefits...I myself don´t have a feeling of belonging to one specific

country, I don´t have land attachements or cultural attachments, mainly

due to my education, family history and spirit of travel...Besides, all

this is about letting go, not about putting in, so whatever helps us to

let go, is beneficial.

 

lets see what is Sri Ganesha up to...sounds interesting

 

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Barbara

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When I think of Ganapati's multitudes I must conclude that they are vast as

cosmic winds...and the wisdom which we study and love did not necessarily

spring full blown from some rishi's forehead nor,even, did it necessarily

spring forth from generations of earth-rishis...

Sidebar: there was today another spam avalanche here, for which I give thanks.

It prodded me (perhaps with its single tusk?) to figure out how to block senders

on this thread.

 

 

 

 

aqesa wrote:

Well I don´t know where our opinions differ perhaps because I find interesting

to read C. Trungpa? I understand the point you are making of being westerners

and at the same time attracted to the wisdom of other cultures. In my case, I

just integrate wisdom with simplicity and spontaneity not trying to pretend to

be something I am not...or to mimic another culture.(About mimic, the other day

I had some thoughts about the word MONKEY. It has MONK inside, and it has Key.

Monkeys are supposed to Mimic, so perhaps the message I got by analysing the

word monkey is telling me more than a simple mimic. Sometimes we imitate or

copy without thinking too much,but a mimic is also the reproduction of an

arquetype. For instance, Zazen as Master Dogen explains is the very core of zen

teachings and it is the way Buddha has tough us to practice the way of

enlightnement according to the zen tradition. By sitting as did Buddha, we are

in a way, copying his way, and the zazen would be a kind of arquetype for the

human mind, a connection with the full meaning of sitting in meditation as did

Buddha to achieve enlightnementt. So it is not a simple imitation of the way

Buddha sat. It is a connection with an arquetype created 2,500 years ago, and

cultivated by many other beings since, and before that).Going back to your

interesting point about being westerners and practising oriental traditions, I

have a deep feeling of reuniting whatever is beneficial for me in the spiritual

path without considering where it comes from as long as the direct experience of

it shows its benefits...I myself don´t have a feeling of belonging to one

specific country, I don´t have land attachements or cultural attachments,

mainly due to my education, family history and spirit of travel...Besides, all

this is about letting go, not about putting in, so whatever helps us to let go,

is beneficial.lets see what is Sri Ganesha up to...sounds

interestingLoveBarbaraTo from this group, send an email

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Well I have also the same feeling that we are not alone here in this

space and that we are not the most advanced. Indeed even the old indian

sacred texts speak of fying machines and incredible weapons...Dogons in

Mali recon their cosmology was explained by some visitors from Sirius

planet, The australian aborigenes speak of the Sky Heroes as those who

delivered them their wisdom, not to mention the mayans and so

on...well, there are tons of information outside about this, and best

of all, inside ourselves. at least in my case, all this possibility

makes a lot of sens...

 

still it is the same principle, wherever this wisdom comes from, if it

is beneficial, then fantastic, use it and let go, and if it is not of

use, then drop it...at the end it is all a bunch of empty words if we

do not put them in practice and experience ourselves.

 

Love

Barbara

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aqesa wrote:

Well I have also the same feeling that we are not alone here in this space and

that we are not the most advanced. Indeed even the old indian sacred texts

speak of fying machines and incredible weapons...Dogons in Mali recon their

cosmology was explained by some visitors from Sirius planet, The australian

aborigenes speak of the Sky Heroes as those who delivered them their wisdom,

not to mention the mayans and so on...well, there are tons of information

outside about this, and best of all, inside ourselves. at least in my case, all

this possibility makes a lot of sens...still it is the same principle, wherever

this wisdom comes from, if it is beneficial, then fantastic, use it and let go,

and if it is not of use, then drop it...at the end it is all a bunch of empty

words if we do not put them in practice and experience ourselves.LoveBarbaraTo

from this group, send an email

to:-http://www.geocities.com/aumganesh/ Your use

of is subject to the

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