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Thanks for your information...indeed its not the first time I see there

is an association between Ganesha and Hermes or Thot.

 

About the number 4, well, we have the Cross as basic symbol

representing the 4, up down left right, 4 elements etc...

but also, inside the 4 as inside the cross there is an invisible number

we tend to forget, the fith element wich is the crossroad between the 4

lines, wich sends us once more to the most important part: THE HEART.

Indeed, in Buddhism also we have the 5 skandas, that transformed become

the elements or qualities of an enlightened being, and the vajra of the

heart, represents exactly this, the transformation, the enlightenement.

Always we come back to the same central point, the heart.

 

Ganesha also has as symbol the star of six, star of David, wich also is

the symbol of the heart chakra, at least I have seen some images of

ganesha with this star, wich is also a tantric symbol, specifically the

star with the OM inside.The star of David, forms 2 tetrahedros, wich is

the Merkaba our vehicle in other realms.The merkabah has apparently a

connexion with the purity of our hearts. the star of david, or star of

six points, has aswell a central point, 7 points, the six points of the

star, plus the central point, the heart, that wich unites all, wich is

in geometric shapes, the hexagon.

 

Anyhow, all this is amazing perhaps one day all this is discovered

completely....

 

Love

Barbara

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If I had skills as a <murthi> maker, I always wanted an image of Ganesh

holding a Staff, Cup, Pentacle and Sword in his four hands.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

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On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Scott Hutton

<hmshutton writes:

>

> Permit me to add: contemporary physics recognizes four basic

> energies binding together the cosmos: weak force (sub-atomic),

> strong force, electromagnetism and gravity. It does not require too

> much of an imaginal leap to sense a parallel with

> air/fire/water/earth (or their Sanscrit equvalents, which, I gather,

> are far more subtle than our Western view).

> I often flash on these four basic energies when glancing at Ganesh's

> four arms, remembering that in the cauldron that is his belly

> resides All-That-Is.

>

>

>

 

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aqesa <aqesa > wrote: Thanks for your information...indeed its not

the first time I see there is an association between Ganesha and Hermes or

Thot.About the number 4, well, we have the Cross as basic symbol representing

the 4, up down left right, 4 elements etc...but also, inside the 4 as inside

the cross there is an invisible number we tend to forget, the fith element wich

is the crossroad between the 4 lines, wich sends us once more to the most

important part: THE HEART.Indeed, in Buddhism also we have the 5 skandas, that

transformed become the elements or qualities of an enlightened being, and the

vajra of the heart, represents exactly this, the transformation, the

enlightenement. Always we come back to the same central point, the

heart.Ganesha also has as symbol the star of six, star of David, wich also is

the symbol of the heart chakra, at least I have seen some images of ganesha

with this star, wich is also a tantric symbol, specifically the star with the

OM inside.The star of David, forms 2 tetrahedros, wich is the Merkaba our

vehicle in other realms.The merkabah has apparently a connexion with the purity

of our hearts. the star of david, or star of six points, has aswell a central

point, 7 points, the six points of the star, plus the central point, the heart,

that wich unites all, wich is in geometric shapes, the hexagon.Anyhow, all this

is amazing perhaps one day all this is discovered completely....LoveBarbaraTo

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Black Lotus L Rosenberg <kalipadma (AT) juno (DOT) com> wrote: If I had skills as a

<murthi> maker, I always wanted an image of Ganeshholding a Staff, Cup,

Pentacle and Sword in his four hands.-- Len/ Kalipadma-- On Wed, 24 Jul 2002

16:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Scott Hutton<hmshutton > writes:> > Permit me to

add: contemporary physics recognizes four basic > energies binding together the

cosmos: weak force (sub-atomic), > strong force, electromagnetism and gravity.

It does not require too > much of an imaginal leap to sense a parallel with >

air/fire/water/earth (or their Sanscrit equvalents, which, I gather, > are far

more subtle than our Western view). > I often flash on these four basic

energies when glancing at Ganesh's > four arms, remembering that in the

cauldron that is his belly > resides All-That-Is.> > >

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