Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Jai Guru Datta, I have been enjoying the excerps from the book being quoted and would like to know the name of this book where the discussions between Paul Brunton and Ramanan Maharishi are written. JAIGURUDATTA [JAIGURUDATTA] Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:54 AM JAIGURUDATTA Digest Number 912 There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Registration Form for Sri Swamiji's Visit to Baton Rouge dycusa 2. constant practice - for vanaprashtas MadeleineHeiss ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:17:17 EST dycusa Registration Form for Sri Swamiji's Visit to Baton Rouge Jai Guru Datta Registration Form As you know that His Holiness Sri Swamiji will be arriving in Baton Rouge on April 15, 2004. Following major activities are planned in Datta Temple for His visit. April 15 (Thur) Arrive in Baton Rouge 6:00 pm Regularly Schedules Paduka Puja Welcoming Sri Swamiji to Baton Rouge April 16 (Fri) 4:00 pm Sri Lalitha Sahasranamavali Puja 6:00 pm Sri Chakra Puja / Discourse 8:00 pm Bhajans by Manasa Swami & Others April 17 (Sat) 4:00pm Datta Venkateshwara & Padmavati Kalyanam 6:00 pm Sri Chakra Puja / Discourse 8:00 pm Children /Youth Program - Singing /Dancing April 18 (Sun) 9:00 am Sri Chakra Puja 9:30 am Ganapathi Homa 10:00 am Abhishekam to Lord Dattatreya & Anagha Devi Ground Breaking Ceremony for Guru Nilayam. We are requesting all the the devotees to complete the Registration Form by clicking on the link below.The purpose of requesting to complete the Registration Form is two-fold: 1) To know approximately how many people will be coming to the Program in Baton Rouge. Wheteher you want to sposnsosr or not we are requesting every body to comple the Form. 2) To know how many dvotees will be sponsoring the Events. We are requesting all the devotees to complete the Registration Form which includes the Sponsorship of Events for the occassion. Following FOUR Events are planned for the Occassion: a) Sri Lalithe Sahasranamavali b) Datta Venkateshwara Kalyanam c) Maha Ganapathi Homam d) Abhishekam to Lord Dattatreya & Anaghadevi You can be a Lucky Host by sponsoring all four events for $162 or sponsor each event for $51. Link is provided to access the Registration Form. Please complete the Registration Form whether you aretsponsoring the events or not. Please go to this Link to cpmplete the Form: http://www.dattatemple.com/swamiji.htm Thank you. Hope to see you soon Call Datta Temple for additional information: 225-751-8949 Please FORWARD it other devotees and Friends Jai Guru Datta V. V. Prakasa Rao 601-856-4783/601-918-7111 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 9 Mar 2004 08:01:12 EST MadeleineHeiss constant practice - for vanaprashtas from Ramana Maharshi's conversation with Paul Brunton, book conscious immortality: .... It is not by a single realisation of 'I am not the body but the Atman' that the goal is reached. Do we become high in position by once seeing the king? One must constantly enter into Samadhi and realise one's Self, and completely blot out the old vasanas and the mind, before he becomes the Self. If you keep to the thought of the Self, and be intently watching for it then even that one thought which is used as a focus in concentration will disappear and you will BE, the true Self. Meditation on Self is our natural state: Only because we find it hard do we imagine to be arbitrary and extraordinary state. We are all unnatural. The mind resting in the Self is its natural condition, but instead of that our minds are resting in outward objects. .... Q: How to find Self? A: There can be no real investigation into the Atma. [!!!] The investigation can only be made into the non-Self. Elimination of the non-Self is alone possible. [see also the Neti neti in Sri Swamiji's explanation of Nirvana Satka] The Self being always Self-evident will shine of itself. Knowing means being. It is not the relative knowledge.[not a subject that knows about an object] .... Q: How does Avidya arise? Avidya is like Maya, that which is not. Therefore the question is avidya? Avidya is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become the subject and there will be no object. the statements of scriptures that the Self is perfect yet that removal of ignorance is necessary, appear contradictory, but they are for the guidance of earnest seekers, who cannot yet understand the plain truth. Krishna plainly said that people confound him with the body whereas he was not born nor will die. The Self is simple being. Be!- and there will be an end of ignorance. ... It is not a new knowledge to be acquired. There is an obstruction to its knowledge called ignorance. Remove it. But ignorance or knowledge is not for the Self. They are over-growths to be cleared. Q: Why do I not realise the Self? A:...Who is ignorant of which? Ask the question and pursue the inquiry as to who it is that is said to be ignorant. Once you put the question trying to probe into the 'I' the 'I' disappears. Then what remains is true Self-knowledge.... If you accept one philosophic system then you are forced to condemn the others. A child and Jnani are similar. Incidents interest the child only so long as they last. It ceases to think of them after they have passed away. So then it is apparent they don't leave any imprint or impressions on the child, and it is not affected by them mentally. so it is with the sage, too. Q: I understand this, but do not realise it. A: ...the Self is found by practice alone, although it is here and now. Q: Is the thought ' I am God' helpful? A: 'I AM' is God- not thinking. Realise I AM and do not think I am. Know[i.e.,experience] not think. .... No attempt is required to be in that state. What is required is to give up all the false ideas. Whenever the idea comes trace out to whom it occurs. When a new thought comes, trace it out by analysis. In course of time all thoughts are destroyed. Q: Suppose the idea is a desire for a certain object. A: Objects are many but the subject is one. Practice the same line--trace out to whom the desire comes. Concentration and all the other practices are meant for recognising the absence, i.e. the non-existence of ignorance. No one can deny his existence. Existence is knowledge, i.e. awareness. That implies absence of ignorance. and yet, why do they suffer? Because man thinks he is this or that. That is wrong. [if I think I am German, I am a woman, I may never have a cottage in India etc, then I suffer, but these identifications are wrong] 'I AM' alone is and not 'I am so and so.' When existence is absolute, it is all right. When is is particularised [e.g. any notion of 'we' against 'them'] it is wrong. That is the whole truth. Does a man look into a mirror to know he exists? ... Your duty is to be, not to be this or that. The method is summed up in 'Be Still.' It means destroy yourself [the 'I am the body' notion, not the body itself] because any form is the cause of trouble. When the 'I' is kept up as 'I' only, not 'I am this' or 'I and this' it is the Self, when it flies off at a tangent, it is the ego[i want this, I am this and that, I am afraid of; I am hoping, planning,...is all ego] The Real Self will not and cannot ask these questions. All these discussions are a matter of competence of ripeness. ....Ego in its purity from objective identification is experienced in intervals between two states or two thoughts. Ego is like that caterpillar which leaves one hold only after catching another. Realize this interval with conviction gained by the study of the three states of consciousness.[wake, dream-sleep and deep sleep, the fourth, turiya, persists in all three, is the true awareness] This study helps to gain this outlook..... [that's why morning meditation after getting up is so important, as one might experience the interval between sleep state and wake and thus prolong the moment that remains without identification with our personality of being this and that in our daily life. that's also probably why Sri Swamiji suggests to listen to His music while falling asleep, as here,too is a change from one state into another, i.e. from wake to sleep] Jai Guru Datta ______________________ ______________________ Latest News and Additions http://www.dattapeetham.com/additions/new.html Call INDIA at lower rates http://www.ethnicservices.com/ Post message: JAIGURUDATTA We apologize if you have received this mail in error. To from this list: send the line "" in the subject/body of a message to JAIGURUDATTA-owner ------ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 see: JAIGURUDATTA/message/2763 "Conversations with Ramana Maharshi by Paul Brunton, excerpts from 'Conscious Immortality' a book edited by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, S. India, first edition 1984, not for sale outside India) " My husband Herbert bought several books in Sri Ramanashrama in 1984/85. (after completing his phD mathematics in Boulder/Colorado he went to India for one year. at this time we didn't yet know each other, so I didn´t accompany him. I have never been to India in this life so far.) This book is one which he bought there. Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi also spoke about Lord Dattatreya by the way. Ramana's Teacher was the mountain Arunachala as far as I know. Jai Guru Datta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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