on 'ego'

[Guest guest]

a quote from "Gems Of The Purest Rays Serene":

 

p.4: "God is seated in the innermost recesses of all hearts in the form of

consciousness. Do not consult the mind, which is fickle like a monkey. It

always runs after the tempting objects of the world and finally makes man

land in calamities...."

 

Maybe we can feel it sometimes afterwards, when we have done something and we

feel happy in our heart afterwards, maybe then it was not so much our ego

which acted in that specific situation? i don´t know.

 

some feeling of silent happiness and peace without one´s previously having

received any worldly thing like money, title, a compliment, etc,

 

or: having done something without having made any announcement of our

"generosity", "experience", "humblenessausterity", "proficiency",

"knowledgeacademic titles" etc, without all these labels

and without any measuring and counting?

 

Also from "Gems Of The Purest Rays Serene", p.3:

"If there is a little water in a pot, it makes a sound when it is shaken.

But if the pot is full, it does not produce any sound at all. The Sun never

declares that he is luminous. He simply shines in all his glory. Sandalwood

gives a pleasant aroma without making any announcement of it. ..."

 

 

 

 

jgd

carolin

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If the reality is only known by the SELF, then how does one distinguish (in the

beginning stages) the difference between products of the SELF-awareness, and the

products of imagination and intellect? How does one "surrender" mentally?

(physical renounciation is meaningless, only mental renounciation is real

surrender)

Often the case is that devotees become over-zealous and lose sight of reality

because they are being misguided by their ego (e.g., they think "I am a great

devotee because i've done such and such...", rather than being led by true

faith/wisdom.) This has to do with this fine-point of distinguishing one's ego

from true wisdom. Even though such devotees may deny it outwardly that they

possess ego, their actions continue to point to the ego. The very existence of a

man/woman depends on the existence of his/her ego -- so to say that there is no

ego, is wrong. Without ego, there is no jiva to be "egoless". Am I right?

Importantly, I would like to know how one distinguishes the behavior due to ego,

from true self-awareness.

jai guru datta,

pradyumna

ps. thank you for highlighting that quote from dattapeetham. "The end of

knowledge... " etc.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

JGD Datta, i think Dattapeetham_Sri Guru Gita gives a lot of clues about a lot

of things...so... " Guru Gita should be pondered over.." indeed. sgd, Win.

 

 

"The mentor is one who frees us from the discontent, enables us to have the

blissful vision of the shadowless light and grants us enlightenment which is

beyond all dualities of in and out and death and birth, and lights the path for

our inward progress. When our fortunes become fruitful and when we are truly

accepted as his disciples, we get the true mentor. This mentor can lead us on

the difficult path to enable us to attain the goal, which is otherwise

impossible for us through the development of our intellect and acquisition of

worldly experience. Thus those without Guru cannot see the aforesaid pure light

......"

 

 

 

 

"Verse 122 Guru Geetaa mimaam Devi shuddhatatvam mayoditam / Gurum maam

dhyaayatee premnaa hrudi nityam vibhaavaya //

 

........Some say that they have nothing in their mind and it is steady. If you

say that, it means that your mind is not steady. There is something in it. If

the state of steadiness truly comes, you can't say that you are steady. When

that state comes indeed, though one appears to be an ordinary member of a

family, he will remain without inner thought. Such a man will have attained the

state of one of the 64 Gurus of Dattatreya. He does not speak out whether it

has come, it is, or it is about to come.

 

Some practicants say that they have attained the state of bliss and that it was

wonderful. True. He has attained some greater state. But the Sadguru knows,

when the practicant speaks out so, that he has not attained the said state, but

is in the process.

 

He has not yet reached the last stage. He still needs practice. But a person

who doesn't know the reality, falls upon his feet offering thanks, thinking that

he has attained a very great state of thought. With that the practicant

develops ego and becomes a spoilt Yogi.

 

So as against that, in order to reach the last step and let all thoughts free,

this Guru Gita should be pondered over."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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