eka Patni Virathan

July 16, 2005

Dear devotees,

I have a doubt and seeking explanation from bhaktas here. Shri Ram is

addressed as eka Patni virathan not seen any ladies even by eye sight.

Is it the true meaning of eka Patni virathan?

Or is it true because, He is the utimate purusha and all the femenine

aspects are ultimately Shrimathi and thus Lord is eka Patni Viratha?

July 18, 2005

Dear Seeker,

I took the term to be "e:ka patni vratha". A vratha, at least in the

way I understand it, is a commitment, a vow, a dedication; if this is

true the term would imply one who is committed to one wife.

If Ra:ma had taken sight of only one woman, then how can we explain

Sabari, Ahalya, etc.?

Mohan

agnidasa wrote:

> Dear devotees,

>

> I have a doubt and seeking explanation from bhaktas here. Shri Ram is

> addressed as eka Patni virathan not seen any ladies even by eye sight.

> Is it the true meaning of eka Patni virathan?

>

> Or is it true because, He is the utimate purusha and all the femenine

> aspects are ultimately Shrimathi and thus Lord is eka Patni Viratha?

>

July 18, 2005

Pl note the parampara says 'mathruvatu paradareshu', which means see his own mother

in all other women. If we take it literally in that sense then what will be the status of our

father?

Actually the meaning is you have to treat them with the same reverence and affection that

you have for your mother. So Rama was very much seeing other women, he was a king

how he can go around the streets blind folded.

For the issue of Eka Patni vraatha, he has not to indulge with any female other than the

chosen one even in thoughts. There is the story of ahalya to exlain this also.

Dasan/raghavanMadhuri and Mohan <mmsagar (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Seeker,I took the term to be "e:ka patni vratha". A vratha, at least in

the way I understand it, is a commitment, a vow, a dedication; if this is true

the term would imply one who is committed to one wife.If Ra:ma had taken sight

of only one woman, then how can we explain Sabari, Ahalya, etc.?Mohanagnidasa

wrote:> Dear devotees,>> I have a doubt and seeking explanation from bhaktas

here. Shri Ram is> addressed as eka Patni virathan not seen any ladies even by

eye sight.> Is it the true meaning of eka Patni virathan?>> Or is it true

because, He is the utimate purusha and all the femenine> aspects are ultimately

Shrimathi and thus Lord is eka Patni Viratha?>>>

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July 19, 2005

Dear seeker,

Yes. vratham - is a commitment.

In the reply given by mohan one point to be noted is -

rama saw sabari ahalya, soorpanaka, thaaraa, later in the battle field

mandothari et al - BUT NOT AS WIFE.

seeing one woman as wife and just seeing them with eyes are TOTALLY DIFFERENT..

as the questioner asked "not seen any ladies even by eye sight" should be taken

literally, yes. not seen other ladies AS "pathni" - wife - even by eye sight,

leave alone enjoying her physically.

- viz raamaa did not see any other lady with the eyes of enjoying her - kaamak

kaN Ottaththudan - with the intention of kaamam behind.

that is why he is alled Eka pathni vrathan. in the days when kshathriyaas and

that too kings are literally permitted to have more than one wife - leaglly

recognised.

just compare his father - had 3 wives as patta mahishis, 60000 wives in his anthappuram - courtyard.

also compare krishna - had 8 wives as patta mahishis and 16108 wives - all

ladies giving birth to 10 children each - not my imagination - but as per

srimadh bhagavatham - yet he is identified and called as brahmachari and proved

his brahmacharyam by touching the uththara garbham to give life as a child.

one more clarification -

point 1. normal rules applicable to human beings is not aplicable to avathaara purushaas,

point 2. yuga dharmangaL varies per each yugam. a good example - pandavas and

dhroupathi - can it be implemented now? Definitely NOT. like that.

in a krithi thyaagaraja sings "oka maata oka baana oka pathni vrathude" - means

one having a commitment to one word, one arrow, one wife.

trust this clarifies.

MGVasudevan

ramanuja

[ramanuja]On Behalf Of Madhuri and MohanTuesday,

July 19, 2005 6:20 AMramanujaSubject: Re: [ramanuja] eka

Patni VirathanDear Seeker,I took the term to be "e:ka patni vratha". A vratha,

at least in the way I understand it, is a commitment, a vow, a dedication; if

this is true the term would imply one who is committed to one wife.If Ra:ma had

taken sight of only one woman, then how can we explain Sabari, Ahalya,

etc.?Mohanagnidasa wrote:> Dear devotees,>> I have a doubt and seeking

explanation from bhaktas here. Shri Ram is> addressed as eka Patni virathan not

seen any ladies even by eye sight.> Is it the true meaning of eka Patni

virathan?>> Or is it true because, He is the utimate purusha and all the

femenine> aspects are ultimately Shrimathi and thus Lord is eka Patni

Viratha?>>>

July 19, 2005

Namaskaaram,

Eka Pathni Vratham, to my knowledge is being steadfast in monogamy. Sri

Ramachandra moorthy in HIS avathar, preached / showed the world the ways of

leading an ideal life. Since HE is the Almighty personified, HE had the duties

to redeem the devotees - Sabari, Ahalya. One performs solemn vow during wedding

rites, in front of the Holy Fire - Vishnu to take care of his wife as his child

and to perform the Eka Pathni Vratham. So, one must be obliged / duty bound to

do Eka Pathni Vratham, by default in a marriage and THAT is the norm in this

civilised world. Sthri, purusha are just the two halves that combine during

the wedding. They get united to form a holy blend - the pefect example being

Ardha-naari-Ishwara. So, one male and one female makes the perfect couple.

Three-some, not so.

The lord Narayana is the Ardha-Naari-Ishwara, whose other half is Shri

MahaLakshmi. Together as purusha (Narayana) and prakriti (Shrimathi), HE

becomes Ardha-Naari-Ishwara. No difference between them. HE/SHE remains in

THAT state.

God Bless All.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 Madhuri and Mohan wrote :

>Dear Seeker,

>I took the term to be "e:ka patni vratha". A vratha, at least in the

>way I understand it, is a commitment, a vow, a dedication; if this is

>true the term would imply one who is committed to one wife.

>If Ra:ma had taken sight of only one woman, then how can we explain

>Sabari, Ahalya, etc.?

>Mohan

>agnidasa wrote:

>> Dear devotees,

>>

>> I have a doubt and seeking explanation from bhaktas here. Shri Ram is

>> addressed as eka Patni virathan not seen any ladies even by eye sight.

>> Is it the true meaning of eka Patni virathan?

>>

>> Or is it true because, He is the utimate purusha and all the femenine

>> aspects are ultimately Shrimathi and thus Lord is eka Patni Viratha?

>>

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July 21, 2005

Eka patni vrathan. Yes it is monogamy in actio alone, what Rama personified was the eka

patni vratha by thoughts and deed that is what is stressed.

dasan/raghavanRaj Narayanan <raj_narayanan (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Namaskaaram,Eka Pathni Vratham, to my knowledge is being steadfast in monogamy.

Sri Ramachandra moorthy in HIS avathar, preached / showed the world the ways of