Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Shri : Dear Smt Vedavalli Renganathan Dhanyoshmin & pranaams. Adiyaen was delighted by your mail and an acceptable logical explanation. May you kindly tell me about the Ghost Stories in T.V !!! Are they real ? If they are not real,say for the sake of argument, why the U.S Postal service (in Hawaai) is receiving 100's and 100 's of lava stones requesting them to place it back in the volcano mountain ? and the U.S Postal service man with his White Big basket ,..... is carrying these stones very very responsibly... on the request of the sender and places it back in the Lava mountain. and this is a Daily story and not an one time occasional story ! shown very clearly in T.V !!! And similar(story) trend is.... Soul lifting an object ?? I am not able to easily believe this after fully analysing our almighty spoken words - Bhagavad Gita "Sea may get drained !!!, Himalayas may vanquish and tumble , Oh Dhananjeya !!!, whatever words i utter now will never go in vain !" Is may be ... & o.k to accept these stories. ... because our almighty does not speak of these ghosts (immatured Souls) in Bhagavad Gita they will take a form like Ghost !!! Please advise !!(siriyane, Yeliyane, Paaviyaen , Mathiyiliyaen) Adiyane ( Kaari maaran + Mathura Kavi ) Daasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Dear srivilliputtur sunderrajan, I happen to read once in Garuda purana that people who pass away peacefully in sleep also dont get a body.so it seems it is better to suffer while dying than die peacefully.and in Srimad Bhagwatham also i read that Brahma once created ghosts and they began to chase him and he ran in fear. It is said in Bhagwatham that ghosts took the twilight time in the evening as their favourite time..Thats why in villages they wont allow girls and innocent people not to go alone at that time.these ghosts wants to fulfill their desires, so they capture innocent people and enter into their body and make them act according to their desires. "Because of the influence of Kali,people are very much interested in TV, and to promote their interest they produce horror films and serials . We better avoid seeing them." so they take serials on TV and wasting their time. So I advice you not to see these horror things but spend your time peacefully. Let us discuss about something spiritual about our perumal from now on and get rid of this ghost topic. Yes ghosts exist , but why do we worry about that , when we have perumal with us? Krishna Dasee Vedavalli Ranganathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 ramanuja, vedavalli ranganathan <vedaranga> wrote: > > Dear srivilliputtur sunderrajan, > > I happen to read once > in Garuda purana that people who pass away peacefully > in sleep also dont get a body.so it seems it is better > to suffer while dying than die peacefully.and in > Srimad Bhagwatham also i read that Brahma once created > ghosts and they began to chase him and he ran in fear. > It is said in Bhagwatham that ghosts took the twilight > time in the evening as their favourite time..Thats why > in villages they wont allow girls and innocent people > not to go alone at that time.these ghosts wants to > fulfill their desires, so they capture innocent people > and enter into their body and make them act according > to their desires. Does this mean that there will be more than one soul in the same body? It is believed that AtmA sits in the heart. Where does the ghost sit? adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Vishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Dear Sri Vishnu, What i meant was this.At the time of death, the soul leaves the body with the subtle body which consist of ego, mind and intelligence.But as it wont get a body because of its suicidal act the atma is eager to get a gross body to enjoy its unfulfilled desires. so it captures a suitable living human body and enters into it with its subtle body.Often this captured person acts abnormally not like his own self as before.Only one atma is there whether one is in ahuman body or as a ghost (spirit) without a body. Krishna dasee , Vedavalli Ranganathan. > > > > I happen to read > once > > in Garuda purana that people who pass away > peacefully > > in sleep also dont get a body.so it seems it is > better > > to suffer while dying than die peacefully.and in > > Srimad Bhagwatham also i read that Brahma once > created > > ghosts and they began to chase him and he ran in > fear. > > It is said in Bhagwatham that ghosts took the > twilight > > time in the evening as their favourite time..Thats > why > > in villages they wont allow girls and innocent > people > > not to go alone at that time.these ghosts wants to > > fulfill their desires, so they capture innocent > people > > and enter into their body and make them act > according > > to their desires. > > Does this mean that there will be more than one soul > in the same > body? It is believed that AtmA sits in the heart. > Where does the > ghost sit? > > adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan > Vishnu > > > > > > > > _______________________________ Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Smt Vedavalli, Humble praNAms to you. Are you talking about the srImad bhAgavatam of veda vyAsa or chaitanya mahAprabhu? For example,as far as I know,in the former's srImad bhAgavatam there is no mention of rAdhA but according to the latter's version,rAdhA is considered as the consort of srIkrShNa. It would be better,if the author name is mentioned if there exist multiple versions of the same subject. dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai ramanuja, vedavalli ranganathan <vedaranga> wrote: > > Dear srivilliputtur sunderrajan, > > I happen to read once > in Garuda purana that people who pass away peacefully > in sleep also dont get a body.so it seems it is better > to suffer while dying than die peacefully.and in > Srimad Bhagwatham also i read that Brahma once created > ghosts and they began to chase him and he ran in fear. > It is said in Bhagwatham that ghosts took the twilight > time in the evening as their favourite time..Thats why > in villages they wont allow girls and innocent people > not to go alone at that time.these ghosts wants to > fulfill their desires, so they capture innocent people > and enter into their body and make them act according > to their desires. > Krishna Dasee > Vedavalli Ranganathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Smt Vedavalli, Humble praNAms to you. If I understand your post(?),all living human bodies have one soul,right? Now the atma(soul that left some body X with subtle senses)captures a living human body(which has a soul inside already)and enters into it. So,now there are two souls in that suitable living human gross body. Don't you see it? This is what your statements convey unless you re-write the statement taht there is only one soul at any given time in a single body. I hope there is no twin souls concept:-) AzhvAr emperumAn jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai ramanuja, vedavalli ranganathan <vedaranga> wrote: > > Dear Sri Vishnu, > > What i meant was this.At the time of > death, the soul leaves the body with the subtle body > which consist of ego, mind and intelligence.But as it > wont get a body because of its suicidal act the atma > is eager to get a gross body to enjoy its unfulfilled > desires. so it captures a suitable living human body > and enters into it with its subtle body.Often this > captured person acts abnormally not like his own self > as before.Only one atma is there whether one is in > ahuman body or as a ghost (spirit) without a body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Srimate Ramanujaya nama: Dear ms Nappinnai, I don't think I ever mentioned about Radha. I'm aware that her name is not mentioned in Srimad Bhagavatham. I was referring to the mention of Ghosts and how they are inasupicious.They are also created by Lord Brahma vide 3rd canto 20th chapter verses 40 & 41 of Bhagavatham and hence are not something independent of the Lord's creation.Because of their inauspicious nature they need not be thought of or discussed. Krishna mentions of them in 9th chapter and 17th chapter of Bhagavad Gita and says that only men of Tamasic nature worship them or seek them. There is only one Srimad Bhagavatham and its author is Sri Krishna Dvaipayana Vyasa. I have not heard of a Bhagavatham by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Krishna Dasee Vedavalli --- vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc wrote: > > > Sri: > Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: > > Dear Smt Vedavalli, > > Humble praNAms to you. Are you talking > about the srImad > bhAgavatam of veda vyAsa or chaitanya mahAprabhu? > For example,as far > as I know,in the former's srImad bhAgavatam there is > no mention of > rAdhA but according to the latter's version,rAdhA is > considered as > the consort of srIkrShNa. It would be better,if the > author name is > mentioned if there exist multiple versions of the > same subject. > > dAsAnu dAsI > NC Nappinnai > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Vishnu, I was thinking about your post suddenly and this doubt creeped in. If AtmA is believed to reside in the heart, what happens in the case of heart transplantation? AtmA gets transported?:-) Does it shift its position in such cases? Is there an exchange of AtmAs? What happens to the antaryAmi? Just curiosity. That's all. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsI NC Nappinnai > Does this mean that there will be more than one soul in the same > body? It is believed that AtmA sits in the heart. Where does the > ghost sit? > > adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan > Vishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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