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DEar ms.nappinnai, I am only trying to highlight the ramanuja philosphy which is

an extension of AzhwAr's arulich-cheyal. It may be true that jEyar swAmi might

have delivered this message in a different context and to a different audience.

I presume that at least this forum-ramanuja digest- should be naturally

addressed towards srEvaishNavites who basically believe in thirumandhiram rather

than shAsthrAs. People who believe in shAshtrAs-strive to do something fort

attaining whatever they want. People who believe in thirumandhiram wait for His

rescue.They want Him rather than anything. Hence, I presume that ramanuja digest

is focussing on ramanuja philosophy.

 

In this regard I recall one AzhwAr's works : " ninnayE thAn vEndi, nEL selvam

vEndAdhAn thannaiyE, thAn vENdum selvam pOl....ninnayE thAn vENdi niRpan

adiyEAnE"

PerumAL thiru-mozhi 5-8 , thiru-voi-mozhi "kaLaivAi thunbam,kaLaiyAdhozhivAi,

kaLaikaN maRRilEAn" 5-8-8

and

AchArya Hridhayam-sUthram 14,15 which deals with reasons for having kept other

types of ends-like materialsitic desires, attacking the enemies or kaivalyam-

and 17 to 21 where the difference between prapannan and others are dealt with.

Hope this clarifies the position.

vAnamAmalai padmanAbhan

 

 

 

 

 

Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Sri Padmanabhan,

With the blessings of and interactions with bhAgavathAs like

you I am trying to understand SVB and other works. Sri PiLLai

lOkAcAryA clearly and concisely presents,in SVB 243(last aphorism of

second prakaraNa),the code of conduct to be followed by the "well

informed" prapanna to whom the Lord is the siddhOpAya(means and the

end rolled into one):a prapanna shall not pray for his own well being

which is actually Lord's sole concern and instead indulge in self-

less love of God(&His devotees)and solicit His well being(have

omitted many other conducts to be followed). There are many people

(non-prapannas)who approach Sri Jeeyar swami and they may not be

aware that Lord is the means and the end. I'm guessing that in this

context HH might have suggested these as a starting point towards

prapatti. Initially I used to chant gadya trayam without

knowing "ANY" meaning but then EmperumAnAr's choice of words itself

was so exhilarating that I was getting restless and wanted to know

the meaning and would ask whoever I bumped into,if they knew the

meaning and would supply me the same. This is my personal experience.

Kindly request Sri Ramakrishna to clarify in what context our Sri

Jeeyar swami suggested that. Please correct me if I said anything

wrong.

 

AzhvAr EmperumAnAr JIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

NC Nappinnai

 

ramanuja, "padmanabhan" <aazhwar@v...> wrote:

> Dear srEvaishNavites,

> stars and slOkas-vishNu sahasra-

nAmam

> It is good to foster chanting of vishNu sahasra-namam. I do not

understand

> the concept of correlating stars to chanting. The purpose of

chanting is for

> chanting and not for any benefit. Kindly clarify. Does it not run

contrary

> to our principles?

> vAnamAmalai padmanAbhan

 

 

 

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