Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Sri Parthasarathi thunai Srimathe rAmAnujAya Namaha Sri Vara Vara MunayE Namaha Sri vAnAchala mahA MunayE Namaha SrisailEsa dayA pAthram deebhakthyAdhi gunArnavam Yateendra pravanam vandhE ramya jAmataram munim Dear Bhagavatas, Today (Feb.28 2003 mAsi dvAdasi) is the thiruvadhyayana dhinam of Sri Periya Jeeyer, Sri ManavAla Mamunigal (the day in which the great acharya attained paramapadam). There are some important responsibilities for any shisya. The shisya has to act according to the words of the acharya, recite the thaniyan of the acharya regularly and should spread the greatness of his acharya throughout the world. On top of all these he should celebrate the thirunakshatram and thiruvadhyayanam of his acharya. Sri Periya Jeeyer is not only an acharya to all the mandha bhuddhi (dull headed) jeevAtmas but he is an acharya to the lord himself. Lord ranganatha (Periya perumal) considered to be the head and representative of all the archa moorthis in the various divya desams decided to become a shisya and hence choose the great acharya Periya Jeeyer to be his acharya and listened to the bhagavat vishaya kalashepam for a year from the divine mouth of Sri Manavala mAmunigal. On the last day, the lord honored the acharya with the SrisailEsa dhaniyan. Did he stop with it? No. The responsibility of the shisya will not end with that. So even today Sri ranganatha remembers the thiruadhyayana dhinam of his acharya and fulfils the responsibilities of the shisya. On this day, the lord accepts the acharya prasadams and refrains from having beetle leafs. The lord has never stepped down from his responsibilities. Do we all follow him? Wherever we are whatever we do, let us show our small regard for the revered acharya at least by thinking of his greatness and doing mangalAsAsanams to the acharya saying, “adiyArgal vAzha aranga nagar vAzha sadakOpan than thamizh nool vAzha, kadal soozhiNdha mannulagam vAzha manavAla mAmuniyE ennum oru nootrAndu erum”. Is there any other religion in this world, which prays for the welfare of all like this? Only we, srivaishnavas pray for the welfare of the whole world daily-kadal soozhiNdha mannulagam vAzha. A muslim says only a musalman reaches the lord and a Christian says only a person who converts himself to Christianity reaches the loka pitha, then what will happen to all others? Can a father (lOka pitha) ignore some of his kids and be partial to others? There is no answer for this with them. But we srivaishnavas have answer to everything. Because we have a great lineage of acharyas who have made logical analysis with the help of the vedas and of course bhagavat krupai and has given the answers for any question in this world. When we are unable to answer to some questions just don’t forget that it is due to our ignorance and nothing else. Try to go through our alwar acharya works and you are sure to find answers to any of your doubts. Is it not our responsibility to celebrate and honor such great alwars and acharyas? If not possible daily let us try to show our regards at least on the thirunakshatram days and the thiruvadhyayana dhinams of the acharyas. Let us now see some incidents in the life history of the great Sri Manavala mAmunigal. 1. One day one of the bhattars in Srirangam temple prostrated Sri Periya jeeyer and said, “Your disciples do not regard me with respect but instead they ignore me”. Jeeyer returned back to the mutt and enquired about the same while the disciples told Jeeyer about the misdeeds of the bhattar and hence said, “Due to the lack of athma gunams in that bhattar we are unable to honor him” Listening to this mAmunigal politely replied, if that is the case then consider perumal and piratti to be seated on the divya simhAsanam and prostrate him. In this way swamy remained with great vaishnava lakshana where he saw goodness in everyone and remained with great pradhipathi towards emperuman and his adiyars. 2. Two Srivaishnavas due to ego and pride argued with each other in front of Sri Periya Jeeyer. Jeeyer kept quiet. At the same time two dogs quarreled between each other. Immediately Jeeyer told to the dogs, “Are you two also well versed in Srivachana bhooshanam to have so much ego and pride to quarrel between each other?” Listening to this the srivaishnavas where embarrassed and they realized their mistake. In this way, Swamy had a special talent to overcome the bad qualities of his disciples and correct them. 3. One very old lady, one night wanted to stay in the mutt. But swamy very strictly ordered her to leave saying, “kizhattu anilAgilum maramEra vallathanrO? (Even if it is an old squirrel is it not still capable of climbing a tree?) Is it not enough for people to blame and talk about us in a wrong manner?” In this way swamy was very cautious and never slipped even a bit. 4. One day a srivaishnava got a special type of greens (tudhulang keerai) and gave to the lady responsible for cutting the vegetables for the prasadam prepared for mamunigal. But the lady just ignored the same. Coming to know about this mAmunigal ordered the lady to leave and not to do the service for 6 more months. Further he told her to beg pardon to the srivaishna for the apacharam done. Such was the bhagavatas abhimAnam of the great acharya. There are so many such instances in the life history of Sri Periya Jeeyer, which will teach us how we as an srivaishnava should actually be. His whole history is a lesson to us in a simplified fashion. The above incidents have been quoted from Sri pillilOkAm Jeeyer’s Yatheendra pravana prabhAvam. To know more adiyen requests each one of you to get hold of this excellent book and go through the same. We spent on many things for our day-to-day needs but spending on such books is a treasure for all our future generations. Let us not leave our next generations in darkness. Let us give them such great treasures and light their lives. Alwar EmperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharanam Adiyen rAmAnuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Smt Sumithra, Humble pranams to you. And as usual,your article was excellent(it goes without saying:-)). Please correct me if I misunderstood the intention of your following paragraph. Your statements give room for speculation that people,well versed in Sri Vacana BhUShaNam,develop ego and pride(as a consequence of mastering SVB). I am under the assumption that SVB is not for a layman but for highly developed god-thirsty soul. If the person has not understood some suthras of SVB,then it means that the person has not yet reached the "requisite or required" mental state. My father always tells me:"SVB is not your mathematics or physics or fluid dynamics;If you don't understand or misinterpret the latter,you're not losing much. But if you misinterpret SVB,you will be doing an "irrepairable" damage to the soul that it would be beyond redemption". PS:I wonder why two people,well versed in SVB,would fight with each other. I can imagine the scenario if one had and the other hadn't mastered SVB. AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam NC Nappinnai > 2. Two Srivaishnavas due to ego and pride argued with each other in >front of Sri Periya Jeeyer. Jeeyer kept quiet. At the same time >two dogs quarreled between each other. Immediately Jeeyer told to >the dogs, "Are you two also well versed in Srivachana bhooshanam to >have so much ego and pride to quarrel between each other?" >Listening to this the srivaishnavas where embarrassed and they >realized their mistake. In this way, Swamy had a special talent to >overcome the bad qualities of his disciples and correct them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sri Parthasarathi thunai Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha Dear Nappinnaiji, Accept adiyen's humble pranams. Adiyen has translated the exact verses from "yatheendra pravana prabhAvam". Just learning anything doesnt change anyone's character. Instead it increases the pride inside them. Only when jnanam and anushtanam go along with each other the person attains the actual srivaishnavathvam. Probably the two srivaishnavas though learned werent having the same in anushtanam, that is what mAmunigal made them realise. Mamunigal himself says in URM "Or oruvar vundAgil aththanai kAn ullamE ellArkkum andAdha dhanrO adhu" (everyone can read and understand but putting it to practice is not that easy). koorathazhvan is being praised as mukkurumbhu aruththavar as he had overcome the vidhya madham, dhana madham and kula madham. So vidya(learning) when put into practice gives one vinayam but on the contrary for others it gives garvam (pride and ego) also. Mamunigal wanted to make the srivaishnavas understand that after learning SVB if they still argue among each other then it is equal to two ignorant dogs quarrelling. Instead of saying it directly swamy did it in a tactful manner. Hope this clarifies, Alwar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigale sharanam Adiyen rAmAnuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan "nappinnai_nc <nappinnai_nc" <nappinnai_nc wrote:Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Smt Sumithra, Humble pranams to you. And as usual,your article was excellent(it goes without saying:-)). Please correct me if I misunderstood the intention of your following paragraph. Your statements give room for speculation that people,well versed in Sri Vacana BhUShaNam,develop ego and pride(as a consequence of mastering SVB). I am under the assumption that SVB is not for a layman but for highly developed god-thirsty soul. If the person has not understood some suthras of SVB,then it means that the person has not yet reached the "requisite or required" mental state. My father always tells me:"SVB is not your mathematics or physics or fluid dynamics;If you don't understand or misinterpret the latter,you're not losing much. But if you misinterpret SVB,you will be doing an "irrepairable" damage to the soul that it would be beyond redemption". PS:I wonder why two people,well versed in SVB,would fight with each other. I can imagine the scenario if one had and the other hadn't mastered SVB. AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam NC Nappinnai > 2. Two Srivaishnavas due to ego and pride argued with each other in >front of Sri Periya Jeeyer. Jeeyer kept quiet. At the same time >two dogs quarreled between each other. Immediately Jeeyer told to >the dogs, "Are you two also well versed in Srivachana bhooshanam to >have so much ego and pride to quarrel between each other?" >Listening to this the srivaishnavas where embarrassed and they >realized their mistake. In this way, Swamy had a special talent to >overcome the bad qualities of his disciples and correct them. azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Dear Smt. Nappinai: In the episode that is described by Smt.Sumithra (and often quoted in upanyasams), the two people who were found to be quarreling, obviously, were "well versed" in SVB but it does not mean that they "practised" what was prescribed in it. It is one thing to be an intellectual and have knowldege but it is another to be practising what is learnt. Secondly, this episode shows how two independent characteristics could be used to wrongly correlate them as one being the "cause" for another. Therefore to put it in a nutshell, the idea behind Periya Jeeyar's comment was only to make them realize their mistake as Smt.Sumitra rightly put it in her posting. Jeeyar tiruvadigalE saranam rAmAnuja dAsi ramanuja, "nappinnai_nc <nappinnai_nc>" <nappinnai_nc> wrote: > Sri: > Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: > > Dear Smt Sumithra, > Humble pranams to you. And as usual,your article was > excellent(it goes without saying:-)). Please correct me if I > misunderstood the intention of your following paragraph. Your > statements give room for speculation that people,well versed in Sri > Vacana BhUShaNam,develop ego and pride(as a consequence of mastering > SVB). I am under the assumption that SVB is not for a layman but for > highly developed god-thirsty soul. If the person has not understood > some suthras of SVB,then it means that the person has not yet reached > the "requisite or required" mental state. My father always tells > me:"SVB is not your mathematics or physics or fluid dynamics;If you > don't understand or misinterpret the latter,you're not losing much. > But if you misinterpret SVB,you will be doing an "irrepairable" > damage to the soul that it would be beyond redemption". > > PS:I wonder why two people,well versed in SVB,would fight with each > other. I can imagine the scenario if one had and the other hadn't > mastered SVB. > > AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam > NC Nappinnai > > > 2. Two Srivaishnavas due to ego and pride argued with each other in > >front of Sri Periya Jeeyer. Jeeyer kept quiet. At the same time > >two dogs quarreled between each other. Immediately Jeeyer told to > >the dogs, "Are you two also well versed in Srivachana bhooshanam > to > >have so much ego and pride to quarrel between each other?" > >Listening to this the srivaishnavas where embarrassed and they > >realized their mistake. In this way, Swamy had a special talent to > >overcome the bad qualities of his disciples and correct them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Smt Sheela and Smt Sumitra Please accept my pranams. Thanks very much for the clarification and agree that Theory and Practice are two different things. But I feel(am a beginner in SVB)that SVB has an impact on the person(who reads it) at the core/root level. Reading certain books by certain authors changes the life of a person completely and SVB is one such book. Sri PiLLai lOkAcAryAr thiruvadigaLE sharaNam AzhvAr EmperumAnAr JIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam NC Nappinnai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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