ONE WHO IS ACCEPTING DISCIPLINE FROM SRILA PRABHUPADA IS SRILA PRABHUPADA'S DISCIPLE.

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ONE WHO IS ACCEPTING DISCIPLINE FROM SRILA PRABHUPADA IS SRILA PRABHUPADA'S

DISCIPLE.Note: we are ALL being DISCIPLINED by Srila Prabhupada (we

receiveinstructions---(discipline) from Srila Prabhupada's books.The MEANING of

the word "disciple"760308mw.mayPrabhupäda: Discipline... Disciple means

discipline. The word discipline comes from disciple, or disciple comes from

discipline. So unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple.

This discipline must... That should be uniform. Otherwise, sisya... sisya, the

word sisya, it comes from the root, verb, säs-dhätu. säs. säs means ruling.

>From this word, sasana. Sasana means government. sästra. säshtra means weapon,

and sästra, scripture, and sisya... These things have come from the one root

säs-dhätu.So säs-dhätu means ruling under discipline. There is another English

word, that "Obedience is the first law of discipline," or something. They say,

"Obedience is the first law of discipline"? So I am right? "Obedience is..."?

That is the...Tamäla Krsna: Yes, that's more or less what it is.Prabhupäda: No,

what is the word, exact. There is an English word."Obedience is the first law of

discipline." So unless there is obedience, there cannot be any discipline. And

unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple. DISCIPLE MEANS

ONE WHO FOLLOWS DISCIPLINE.Discipline comes from Srila PrabhupadaNOTE: we are

actually being diciplined by Srila Prabhupada. It is SrilaPrabhupada who has

given us the regulative principles of no meat,fish or eggs; no

intoxication(including tea and coffee), no illicit sex, and no gambling. It is

Srila Prabhupada who has made it a regulative principle for us to chant sixteen

rounds on the beads HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE /HARE RAMA HARE

RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE. Srila Prabhupada's books contain all the

instructions, the guidancerequired for us to get ourselves out of the clutches

of the modes ofmaterial nature. Infact Srila prabhupada is personally present

as hisbooks.CC Adi CH1 TEXT 35"There is NO DIFFERENCE between the spiritual

masters instructions and the spiritual master himself".Note:since the

instructions of the spiritual master and the spiritualmaster are not different

one can be the disciple of Srila Prabhupada byfollowing his discipline and can

be considered Srila Prabhupada's disciple. Another point is he can be

considered both direct disciple and not direct simultaneously because Srila

Prabhupada is still present in his instruction form(his books) The following

example will illustrate the point.Srila Krsnadasa kaviraja is the example of

both direct and not direct disciple simultaneously.(THE PHILOSOPHY OF

SIMULTANEOUS ONENESS ANDDIFFERENCE).CC ADI CH 1A direct disciple of Srila Rüpa

Gosvämi was Srila Raghunätha däsa Gosvämi. The author of Sri

Caitanya-caritämrta, Srila Krsnadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämi, stands as the DIRECT

DISCIPLE of Srila Rüpa Gosvämi and Srila Raghunätha däsa Gosvämi. The direct

disciple of Srila Krsnadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämi was Srila Narottama däsa Thäkura,

who accepted Srila Visvanätha Cakravarti as his servitor. Srila Visvanätha

Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannätha däsa Bäbäji, who initiated Srila

Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn initiated Srila Gaurakishore däsa Bäbäji, the

spiritual master of Om Visnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvati Gosvämi

Mahäräja, the divine master of our humbleself. Since we belong to this chain of

disciplic succession from Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu, this edition of Sri

Caitanya-caritämrta will contain nothing newly manufactured by our tiny brains,

but only remnants of food originally eaten by the Lord Himself.CC Antya

19.102Krsnadäsa Kaviräja Gosvämi was not actually a direct disciple of Srila

Rüpa Gosvämi, but he FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS given by Srila Rüpa Gosvämi in

Bhakti-rasämrta-sindhu. He therefore ACTED ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS of Rüpa

Gosvämi and prayed in every chapter for his mercy."WHO IS SRILA PRABHUPAD'S

DISCIPLE?760613mw.detPrabhupäda: Who is my disciple? First of all let him

FOLLOW STRICTLY THE DISCIPLINED RULES.Devotee (2): As long as one is following,

then he is...Prabhupäda: Then he is all right.SPL 72-09-21 BhaktijanaYou do not

require to worry as I shall never leave you, you are my disciple and I am your

spiritual master, so there is no question, AS LONG AS you follow my

instructions, that I shall ever leave you. Just remember under all

circumstances to chant sixteen rounds of japa daily, offer your prasadam to

Krsna, and do all of the things which you already know, as you are senior

disciple. These things will protect you under all conditions, without any

doubt.SPL 75-11-07 MadhudvisaSO LONG AS one follows the principles, he

continues to be my disciple.SPL 75-11-09 Tusta KrsnaSO LONG AS one continues to

follow the rules and regulations, he continues to be my disciple wherever he may

be.SPL 69-07-09Out of the ten kinds of offenses, the number one offense is to

disobey the orders of the Spiritual Master. The instructions given to the

disciple by the Spiritual Master at the time of initiation should be strictly

followed. That will make one advance to the spiritual path. But if one

deliberately defies such instructions, then his advancement is hampered from

the very beginning. THIS DEFYING MEANS TO DISCONNECT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

SPIRITUAL MASTER. AND ANYONE WHO DEFIES AND THEREFORE DISCONNECTS THE

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SPIRITUAL MASTER can hardly expect the assistance of the

Spiritual Master life after life.SPL Cidananda 73-11-25Please always try to

REMEMBER ME BY MY TEACHINGS AND WE SHALL ALWAYS BETOGETHER. Just like I have

written in the first publications ofSrimad-Bhagavatam, "The spiritual Master

lives forever by His divineinstruction and the disciple lives with him.",

because I have alwaysserved my Guru Maharaja and followed His teachings I am

now even neverseparated from Him. Sometimes Maya may come and try to interfere

but wemust not falter, we must always follow the chalked out path layed down by

the great acharya's and in the end you will see.Who is NOT Prabhupada's

disciple?Initiation does not bear any meaningSPL 70-01-11Regarding your

question of an initiated person falling prey to the maya, the answer is that so

long we are in this material world, there is always chance of being spoiled by

Maya, so we must stick with vow to the Lotus Feet of Krishna. An initiated

devotee is given the chance for becoming free from the entanglement of karma

wheel. Initiated means beginning, not perfection. The Spiritual Master's

business is to guide him to the perfectional point. But if one does not

strictly follow the guidance of a bonafide Spiritual Master HIS INITIATION DOES

NOT BEAR ANY MEANING. The initiation performance is an agreement by the

disciples to abide by the order of the Spiritual Master. Therefore, if the

Spiritual Master is bonafide and the disciple is serious to abide by His order,

then the success is sure.Otherwise they are NOT my disciplesSPL 76-0217 Raja

LaksmiMy advise is always chant 16 rounds minimum and follow the four

regulative principles. All of my disciples must agree on this point OTHERWISE

THEY ARE NOT MY DISCIPLES.

Note: it has become a norm among the sahajiya’s like Narayana Maharaja to call

himself a siksa disciple of Srila Prabhupada and still have beard and hair

unshaved. Srila Prabhupada clearly rejects this behaviour. Against the

principleSPL76-07-17 DhrstaketuUnless absolutely necessary, one should keep

head shaven and not allow the hair to grow long. If absolutely necessary, one

can dress like an American gentleman, with short hair, but long hair is

prohibited. The reason that one with long hair is not my disciple is because he

is AGAINST THE PRINCIPLE. Unless absolutely necessary one should keep hair

short, and if necessary one can dress like an American gentleman with short

hair. It is not expected that everyone will join. For that reason we can't

compromise. The tendency is there to be hippy. When the acaryas are seen with

beard, that is during Caturmasya, July-September. If observed strictly there is

not simply a beard. There are so many rules and regulations. One can't eat a

variety of foods. Only kitri prepared and poured on the floor, and then licked

up. There are so many other rules also. THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THAT THEY KEPT

BEARD.Disciple in name onlySPL 760710MW.NYPrabhupäda: And the Bon Mahäräja is

his follower. HE'S IN NAME a disciple of Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvati, BUT HE'S A

SERVANT OF Vivekananda.Tamäla Krsna: He's very similar to him.Prabhupäda: He's

a great appreciator of Vivekananda. He has put in hiscurriculum Vivekananda

philosophy, Gandhi philosophy. Rascal, whatphilosophy they have got?STEALING

SRILA PRABHUPADA'S DISCIPLES, HIS PROPERTIES FOR ONESELF(BECOMING SELF MADE

GURU---APPOINTMENT BY 2/3 MAJORITY VOTES) HAVE GRAVECONSEQUENCES:KB 64 The

Story of King NrgaAt this time, Lord Krsna was present among His relatives who

weremembers of the ksatriya class. To teach them through the exemplarycharacter

of King Nrga, He said, "Even though a ksatriya king may be aspowerful as fire,

it is not possible for him to usurp the property of abrahmana and utilize it

for his own purpose. If this is so, how canordinary kings, who falsely think of

themselves as the most powerful beings within the material world, usurp a

brahmana's property? I do not think that taking poison is as dangerous as

taking a brahmana's property. For ordinary poison there is treatment--one can

be relieved from its effects; but if one drinks the poison of taking a

brahmana's property, there is no remedy for the mistake.THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS

KING NRGA. HE WAS VERY POWERFUL AND VERY PIOUS, BUT DUE TO THE SMALL MISTAKE OF

UNKNOWINGLY USURPING A BRAHMANA'S COW, HE WAS CONDEMNED TO THE ABOMINABLE LIFE

OF A LIZARD. Ordinary poison affects only those who drink it, and ordinary fire

can be extinguished simply by pouring water on it; BUT THE ARANI FIRE IGNITED BY

THE SPIRITUAL POTENCY OF A BRAHMANA CAN BURN TO ASHES THE WHOLE FAMILY OF A

PERSON WHO PROVOKES SUCH A BRAHMANA." (Formerly, the brahmanas used to ignite

the fire of sacrifice not with matches or any other external fire but with

their powerful mantras, called arani.) "IF SOMEONE EVEN TOUCHES A BRAHMANA'S

PROPERTY, HE IS RUINED FOR THREE GENERATIONS. HOWEVER, IF A BRAHMANA'S PROPERTY

IS FORCIBLY TAKEN AWAY, THE TAKER'S FAMILY FOR TEN GENERATIONS BEFORE HIM AND

TEN GENERATIONS AFTER HIM WILL BECOME SUBJECT TO RUINATION. On the other hand,

if someone becomes a Vaisnava, or devotee of the Lord, ten generations of his

family before his birth and ten generations after will become liberated."Lord

Krsna continued: "If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige

and power wants to usurp a brahmana's property, it should be understood that

such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to

suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very

liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a

usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this

hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of

life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICHHAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A

BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TOLIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS

MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL.THEREFORE I INSTRUCT YOU, ALL MY BOYS AND

RELATIVES PRESENT HERE, DO NOT,EVEN BY MISTAKE, TAKE THE POSSESSION OF A

BRAHMANA AND THEREBY POLLUTE YOURWHOLE FAMILY. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO

POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONEATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE DURATION

OF HIS LIFE WILL BEREDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND AFTER BEING

BEREFT OF HISROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL BECOME A

SERPENT. ASERPENT GIVES TROUBLE TO ALL OTHER LIVING ENTITIES. My dear boys

andrelatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes angrywith

you and calls you by ill names or curses you, still you should notretaliate. On

the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your respects to the

brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My obeisances to the

brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should therefore follow My

instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who does not follow them,

and I shall punish him. You should learn from the example of King Nrga that

even if someone unknowingly usurps the property of a brahmana, he is put into a

miserable condition of life."

Note: It has been a common practice among Srila Prabhupada's Godbrothers to

steal Srila Prabhupada's disciples by trickery. Sridhra Maharaja, Puri Maharaja

is also known to have re-initiated Srila Prabhupada's disciples. Narayana

maharaja is also culprit to this deplorable unvaisnava offensive insulting

conduct. This act prove they conditioned souls.

ALL GLORIES TO OUR BONAFIDE JAGAT DIKSA AND SIKSA GURU SRILA PRABHUPADA!HARE

KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE/ HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA

HARE HARE.