Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Srila Prabhupada: I am in the initiator guru 75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa Regarding Sydney, that the President has left, if one does not follow the regulative principles, then he will leave. That is a fact. Has somebody else been elected? This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am in the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want. Note the following points: 1) The specific instruction to the GBC was The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. 2)Srila Prabhupada:I am in the initiator guru This is the EXACT ORDER Srila Prabhupada left for his disciples to follow in 9th July 1977 for ISKCON. Letter to: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents -- Vrindaban 9 July, 1977 To All G.B.C., and Temple Presidents Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "ritvik--representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity: His Holiness Kirtanananda Swami His Holiness Satsvarupa dasa Gosvami His Holiness Jayapataka Swami His Holiness Tamala Krsna Gosvami His Holiness Hrdayananda Gosvami His Holiness Bhavananda Gosvami His Holiness Hamsaduta Swami His Holiness Ramesvara Swami His Holiness Harikesa Swami His Grace Bhagavan dasa Adhikari His Grace Jayatirtha dasa Adhikari In the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupada recommending a particular devotee's initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace's "Initiated Disciples" book. Hoping this finds you all well. Your servant, Approved: Tamala Krsna Gosvami A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Secretary to Srila Prabhupada Srila Prabhupada’s signature appears in the original. This is to show Srila Prabhupada’s desire to remain as the initiating acarya of ISKCON. Srila Prabhupada is the FOUNDER-ACARYA (founder **AND** ACARYA of ISKCON) further evidence on the FRONT COVER of his books. Note: there are many false allegations that the envious sahajiyas demons put forward to remove Srila Prabhupada as the current Acarya from this position. Lets look at a few: 1) The envious sahajiyas demons say the parampara is finished if the ritvik system is accepted. SB 3.29.17 P Explanation of Devotional Service by Lord Kapila In Bhagavad-gita, Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated that one should execute devotional service and advance on the path of spiritual knowledge by accepting the acarya. Acaryopasanam: one should worship an acarya, a spiritual master who knows things as they are. The spiritual master must be in the disciplic succession from Krsna. The predecessors of the spiritual master are his spiritual master, his grand spiritual master, his great-grand spiritual master and so on, who form the disciplic succession of acaryas. ANSWER: NO! above shows that the acarya is to be worshipped and Srila Prabhupada is **that** acarya who is worshipped in the ISKCON branch. Ritviks carry out his duties as representatives to give the formalities. Whereas the Acarya Srila Prabhupada gives the actual DIKSA where Krishna is transferred into the heart to another PURE devotee (PURE GOODNESS platform). July 9th 1977 order was NEVER REVOKED by Srila Prabhupada **this** therefore means Srila Prabhupada continues to give DIKSA for ISKCON as long as ISKCON exists. Ritviks are not worshipped as good as God: ACARYA Srila Prabhupada is worshipped as good as God. There is no "new system" since the qualification is the ACARYA is worshipped "..who form the disciplic succession of acaryas). The sahajiya demons try and rubberstamp to mean ritviks as being worshipped to replace ACARYA—in this way they CHEAT devotees. 2) The envious demon sahajiyas say Srila Prabhupada does not anymore give diksa—(means one has to go to surrender to one of their own certified demons eg Sahajiya Narayan Maharaja, Severe offender Gaudiya math bogus gurus or ISKCON’s bogus voted self made "gurus" who have rejected the above July9th 1977 order). Answer: Srila Prabhupada has NEVER stated this. On the contrary his instruction as above stands IRREFUTABLE as it is. Secondly the envious sahajiyas cannot provide any tangible evidence for the removal of Srila Prabhupada from his position to give diksa. 3) The envious demon sahajiyas say many Srila Prabhupada’s disciples are Acarya. Answer a) NONE of the envious demon "gurus" has been able to create a branch of his OWN. They are all operating from ISKCON Srila Prabhupada’s branch of the Caitanya tree. Not empowered to make a branch. b)The false acaryas of the envious sahajiyas are not quoted by all sections of the society: means NOT EMPOWERED by Krsna. Paramahamsa Thakura Srila A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta saraswati Thakura, Bhaktivinode Thakura are ALL QUOTED as sastric references because Lord Krsna MANIFESTS in their words as AUTHORITY. What the acaryas speak is directly spoken by Lord Krsna. 4)The envious sahajiyas sometimes say, "Srila Prabhupada has said one can become a guru." (means the envious sahajiyas have got their demons who are operating as "guru" whom they want everyone to accept and remove Srila Prabhupada as the initiator). The sahajiyas like to quote some instruction of Srila Prabhupada to remove Srila Prabhupada –BUT are totally defeated. Here is the one such attempt: Letter to: Tusta Krsna New Delhi 2 December, 1975 My Dear Tusta Krishna Swami, Keep trained up very rigidly and then you are bonafide Guru, and you can accept disciples on the same principle. But as a matter of etiquette it is the custom that during the lifetime of your Spiritual master you bring the prospective disciples to him, and in his absence or disappearance you can accept disciples without any limitation. This is the law of disciplic succession. I want to see my disciples become bonafide Spiritual Master and spread Krishna consciousness very widely, that will make me and Krishna very happy. Note: Tusta Krsna like many others at the time were in the mood of wanting to enviously compete with Srila Prabhupada. So Srila Prabhupada gently removes this awkward situation by stating a) "Keep trained up **very rigidly.**" b)suggests "and in his absence or disappearance you can accept disciples **without any limitation.**" Which means the criterion is of the MAHABHAGAVATA qualification. Just see how Srila Prabhupada masterfully deals with this overly ambitious crafty devotee. "Keep trained up **very rigidly.** From Kanistha adhikari (QUALIFIED Brahmana) to Madhyama to UTTAMA adhakari(communicating with Krsna) is a VERY VERY VERY LONG JUMP. This is what it means: Keep trained up **very rigidly**. **without any limitation.** Disciple means discipline and Srila Prabhupada’s books are distributed all over the world –so Srila Prabhupada’s DISCIPLINE is being followed from those books –therefore Srila Prabhupada is accepting disciples **without any limitation.** This is the MAHABHAGAVATA qualification he is accepting disciples **without any limitation.** No cheap sahajiya stuff here. So any envious sahajiya animal wanting to compete with Srila Prabhupada MUST PROVIDE EVIDENCE HE IS ACARYA LIKE OUR BONAFIDE JAGAD GURU PARAMAHAMSA THAKURA A C BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI SRILA PRABHUPADA. Lets ask these envious sahajiyas demons: Provide the proof that the parampara demon "guru" you want to replace Srila Prabhupada with-- his books are creating disciples ALL OVER THE WORLD. Provide the proof that your parampara demon "guru" you want to replace Srila Prabhupada with is QUOTED by all sections of society as authority. Provide the proof that your parampara demon "guru" you want to replace Srila Prabhupada with has his OWN branch of the Caitanya tree just like Srila Prabhupada created ISKCON. Sahajiya Narayana maharaja demon refuses to accept Srila Prabhupada’s July 9th 1977 order and says he is also part of ISKCON –NO! not acceptable. July9th 1977 letter is an order from Srila Prabhupada to his ISKCON society this is PRE CONDITION to being part of ISKCON. Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse In the Padma Purana, the characteristics of the guru, the bona fide spiritual master, have been described: MAHA-BHAGAVATA-srestho brahmano vai gurur nrnam sarvesam eva lokanam asau pujyo yatha harih maha-kula-prasuto 'pi sarva-yajnesu diksitah sahasra-sakhadhyayi ca na guruh syad avaisnavah Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse The guru MUST BE SITUATED on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST BE ACCEPTED from the topmost class. The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. It is said: gurur nrnam. The word nrnam means "of all human beings." The guru is not limited to a particular group. It is stated in the Upadesamrta of Rupa Gosvami that a guru is a gosvami, a controller of the senses and the mind. SUCH A GURU CAN ACCEPT DISCIPLES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. PRTHIVIM SA SISYAT. THIS IS THE TEST OF THE GURU. Madhya 24.330 When one has ATTAINED THE TOPMOST POSITION OF MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU. Note: There is no option the Guru MUST BE A MAHABHAGAVATA other wise the offence in chanting is 3) Neglecting the order the spiritual master. We request you all who are sane AND SINCERE to accept PARAMAHAMSA THAKURA SRILA A C BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA AS YOUR BONAFIDE JAGAD GURU (includes DIKSA AND SIKSA both). DO NOT BE MISLED BY ENVIOUS SAHAJIYA DEMONS WHO WANT TO REPLACE SRILA PRABHUPADA. ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA! HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE / HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HAREYs mahesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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