The homosexual appetite of a man for another man is demoniac

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The homosexual appetite of a man for another man is demoniac

SB 3.20.26 T Conversation Between Maitreya and Vidura

pahi mam paramatmams tepresanenasrjam prajahta ima yabhitum papaupakramanti mam prabho

SYNONYMS

pahi--protect; mam--me; parama-atman--O Supreme Lord; te--Your; presanena--by

order; asrjam--I created; prajah--living beings; tah imah--those very persons;

yabhitum--to have sex; papah--sinful beings; upakramanti--are approaching;

mam--me; prabho--O Lord.

TRANSLATION

Lord Brahma, approaching the Lord, addressed Him thus: My Lord, please protect

me from these sinful demons, who were created by me under Your order. They are

infuriated by an appetite for sex and have come to attack me.

PURPORT

It appears here that the homosexual appetite of males for each other is created

in this episode of the creation of the demons by Brahma. In other words, the

homosexual appetite of a man for another man is demoniac and is not for any

sane male in the ordinary course of life.

JSD 6.5 Slaughterhouse CivilizationSrila Prabhupada: The priests are after

money. They are not first class; they are low-class men. This is the reason

that Christianity has fallen down. The priests cannot speak straightforwardly.

There is a straightforward commandment--"Thou shalt not kill." But because

people are already killing, the priests are afraid to present the commandment

straightforwardly. Now they are even granting man-to-man marriage, what to

speak of other things. The priests are sermonizing on this idea of man-to-man

marriage. Just see how degraded they have become! Previously was there any

conception like this, at least outside America? Nobody thought that a man could

be married to another man. What is this? And the priests are supporting it. Do

you know that? So what is their standard?

710725SB.NY LecturesAnd what is the tapasya? That is also... Brahmacaryena.

Brahmacaryena. Brahmacaryena means restricted sex life. Real meaning is no sex

life, no sex, celibacy, completely. This is tapasya. Therefore, according to

Vedic culture, the first beginning of life is brahmacari. (break) But in the

brahmacari life there is no sex life. Only in the grhastha life there is sex

life, married life. I was reading the other day a magazine, Watch... What is

that? Watchtower. So this paper was criticizing so many immoral activities in

the Christian world. And one item I was surprised to read that a Christian

priest has sanctioned marriage between man to man. That was written there. I do

not wish to discuss all those things, but people are degrading for want of this

tapasya. People are not taught how to execute tapasya life, tapasvi life.

Simply by criticizing will not do. Practically you have to be trained in the

life of tapasya. Then it will be effective. Just like we are doing. Here, in

our Krsna consciousness movement, in every center, everyone, at least who are

living within this temple, must get up at four o'clock to perform the aratrika.

This morning I was asking somebody that if you cannot rise, then you cannot live

in this temple. Because this temple is meant for tapasya, not for extravagancy.

Unless you follow the life of tapasya, you cannot make progress.

740611r2.par ConversationsPrabhupada: Yes. They're after money. So they are less

than sudras. That is the cause that Christianity has fallen down, that they

cannot speak straightly, or otherwise... It is straight commandment, "Thou

shalt not kill." And because people are killing, they're... Now they are give

man-to-man marriage, what to speak of other things. The priests, they are

sermonizing this man-to-man marriage. Just see how degraded they have become.

Whether any conception... At least, outside America, nobody knows that a man

can be married with another man. What is this? And they're supporting it. You

know that?

750521rc.mel ConversationsPrabhupada: No. There is no question of high

percentage. I said that even a small percentage, there must be some ideal men.

At least people will see that here is the ideal man. Just like we are having.

Because they are chanting and dancing, many outsiders are coming and they are

also learning, they are also offering obeisances. And gradually they are

offering their service: "Please accept me." The example is better than precept.

If you have an ideal group of men, then people will automatically learn. That is

wanted. But don't mind, I don't find any ideal group of men. Even in the priests

they are going to hospital for their drinking habit. I saw in some times before

in a hospital, five thousand patients, alcoholic patients, priest. Priest

should be ideal character. And they are advocating homosex. So where is the

ideal character men? If the priestly class they are going to hospital for

drinking habit, and they are allowing man-to-man marriage and homosex, then

where is ideal character?

760108rc.nel ConversationsPrabhupada: That they are doing. Still they are doing.

Just like you said, some sprinkling water. They have no philosophy and they

violate everything, what is stated there in Bible. Now you say that "Thou shall

not kill;" they say, "Thou shall not murder." They are molding. Now this homosex

they are sanctioning, man-to-man marriage. They are sanctioning

abortion.Acyutananda: Yes. Two homosexuals were married by a priest.Prabhupada:

Yes.Tamala Krsna: Now they have a church where the priests are homosexuals and

the attending people are homosexual.Prabhupada: Hm?Tamala Krsna: Now they have

churches for homosex. That means the priest is a homosexual, and the persons

who come are homosexuals. A special church for homosexuals.Prabhupada: Just

see. Is that religion?

770428rc.bom ConversationsPrabhupada: No, they are drinking. They are having

homosex. They are encouraging homosex, giving man-to-man marriage. You know

that? This is going on. Doing everything nonsense.

N98:720928MW.LA conversationsPrabhupada: ...the injunction of the scripture, and

still they say, "We do not know." So many drunkards priest, they are going to

hospital for treatment ,and they are eating, and they are getting married man

to man, and still they say, "We do not know what we have done." Just see how

cheaters they are.Jayatirtha: In the last six years...Prabhupada:

Hm?Jayatirtha: In the last six years in the Catholic church, 25,000 priests

have left and taken up...Prabhupada: 25,000?Jayatirtha: 25,000 in six

years.Prabhupada: What is that?Jayatirtha: Have left the Catholic church,

priests.Prabhupada: Left.Jayatirtha: Ordained priests, they have left and gone

off to marry or whatever. Especially they are concerned that they can't marry.

Catholic priests are not allowed to marry.Prabhupada: Marrying? They are

marrying man to man ,what to speak of marrying. Sodomy.Jayatirtha: So that's

the alternative. Either they're leaving or they're marrying man to

man.Prabhupada: Homosex. They are supporting homosex. So degraded, and still

they say, "What we have done?" They do not know what is degradation, and they

are priest. They are teaching others. They do not know what is the meaning of

degradation.

740614rc.par Conversations

Prabhupada: Yes. Some of our men, at least one, left our association. He thought

that "This is denying the primary necessities of life." Rayarama, Rayarama. He

left for this reason, that we do not allow the bare necessities of life.

Illicit sex, intoxication... He was first-class criminal on this account, but

he could not give it up. Therefore he left.

Devotee: Yes, I spoke with him in San Francisco, and he said, "Swamiji will not

be successful because he does not allow free love in his movement." He says,

"That is why I had to leave because there was no place for me and my

boyfriend." Even he was not attracted to having a girl, but he had a boy. That

boy used to be also your typist. He was from Harvard University.

Prabhupada: That Neil.

Devotee: Yeah, Neil.

Prabhupada: Oh.

Devotee: And he told me that "Swamiji will not be successful in his movement

because he will not allow free love." I just saw him in San Francisco before I

went to India two and a half years ago. We were trying to get him to come back

to the temple.

Prabhupada: No, he cannot give up these bad habits.

Pusta-krsna: You said in Geneva that no one has died from giving up cigarettes

or illicit sex. So it is not so hard to do.

Prabhupada: No, it is not hard. Now the Christian church is giving liberty, man

to man marriage. Most unnatural.

Devotee: Previously they didn't allow divorce. The first principle was there is

no question of divorce. Then so many people began leaving the Catholic Church.

So then they allowed divorce. And then they did not allow abortion. So again so

many people left the religion. Now they allow abortion. And now they are

allowing man to man marriage.

Prabhupada: Just see.

Devotee: They compromise just to keep their followers.

Bhagavan: It's a matter of money.

Prabhupada: And that is freedom. So Raya Ramananda left because such freedom is

not allowed here. So we have to allow this freedom like the church? (laughs)