Subject: Reincarnation in the Bible

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Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:29:27 -0000

"Mahesh" <mahesh

Re: Reincarnation in the Bible

 

Dear Dharmapada dasa

 

You are talking nonsense. Wake up.

 

>"Those instructions by Shrila Prabhupada were issued a long time ago in a

certain >context. Were it not for this context, we would have no call to go

studying the Bible.

 

Your term "Long time ago" means you want to try and JUSTIFY it is no

longer applicable NOW Why? because it suits YOUR mentality. Get real! Then

you say "in a certain context". That's just a jugglary of words the context

is JUST AS APPLICABLE NOW as it was THEN. You are talking---- RUBBISH!

 

* Mahesh,

 

* Why? Because at this time and place, our purpose is to trace the roots of

the cultrues of the world to their Vedic roots. Shrila Prabhupada was

writing to temple devotees who were learning the philosophy.

 

* This theme of our world Vedic culture wasn't in vogue back then. More

recently, P.N. Oaks opened it up with his book on the subject matter.

 

* It would definitely be a feather in our cap if we could establish some

understandings along these lines.

 

* Dharmapad

 

 

 

Srila Prabhupada did NOT encourage studying literatures that are not very

sound and *transcendental*. Bible is NOT eternal and is contradictory.

Therefore to encourage ANYONE to spend lifes valuable time on this INSTEAD

of Srimad Bhagavatam is going against Srila Prabhupada wishes and this will

be COUNTER PRODUCTIVE.

Yasya aprasadan na gati kuto pi by displeasing the Guru (Srila Prabhupada)

he does not attain transcendental platform. What a tragic waste of human

life!

 

Adi 17.169 The Pastimes of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His Youth

The sastras of the yavanas, or meat-eaters, are not eternal scriptures.

They have been fashioned recently, and sometimes they contradict one

another. The scriptures of the yavanas are three: the Old Testament, the New

Testament and the Koran. Their compilation has a history; they are not

eternal like the Vedic knowledge. Therefore although they have their

arguments and reasonings, they are not very sound and transcendental. As

such, modern people advanced in science and philosophy deem these scriptures

unacceptable.

 

Adi 17.169 The Pastimes of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His Youth

When the scriptures of the yavanas--namely, the Old Testament, New

Testament and Koran--cannot properly answer inquisitive followers, naturally

those advanced in scientific knowledge and philosophy lose faith in such

scriptures.

 

SB 5.6.16 P The Activities of Lord Rsabhadeva

The teachings of Lord Rsabhadeva are for the people of all

yugas--Satya-yuga, Treta-yuga, Dvapara-yuga and especially Kali-yuga. These

instructions are so powerful that even in this age of Kali, one can attain

perfection simply by explaining the instructions, following in the footsteps

of the acaryas or listening to the instructions with great attention. If one

does so, one can attain the platform of pure devotional service to Lord

Vasudeva. The pastimes of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His

devotees are recorded in Srimad-Bhagavatam so that those who recite these

pastimes and listen to them will become purified. Nityam bhagavata-sevaya.

 

**As a matter of principle**, devotees should read, speak and hear

Srimad-Bhagavatam persistently, *twenty-four hours daily if possible.* That

is the recommendation of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Kirtaniyah sada harih.

 

>I encourage Bhakti Anand Goswami to offer us more explanations so

>that we can better understand the world around us in its connecto to

>our world Vedic culture. "

 

NO! We disagree. Listen to Srila Prabhupada and stop doing nonsense.

Best to hear INSTEAD the REAL nectar--- of Srimad Bhagavatam the

TRANSCENDENTAL topics which "If one does so, one can attain the platform of

*pure* devotional service to Lord Vasudeva."

 

Lets refresh your memory: the quotes stand as they are and are EQUALLY

APPLICABLE TODAY in their context.

 

70-04-28. Letter: Citsukhananda

Regarding the disturbing groups of "Christians" so-called, that is

alright. Let them follow Lord Jesus Christ. Regarding their dogmatic

insistence, everyone thinks like that, so if one is not prepared to advance

more, it is better to avoid them. If one is limited by some formulas only,

he is described as an animal which is bound up by the chain of the master

and cannot move beyond the length of the chain. So we are concerned with

persons who are not chained by anything.

 

Srila Prabhupada only preached to these kind of people on the basis of

giving-up meat eating . So long as they are merciless they can NOT

understand the value of Krsna Consciousness what is soul, what is God.

 

730824BG.LON Lectures

Prabhupada: Pariksit Maharaja. He said that God consciousness, Krsna

consciousness, cannot be understood by the animal killer. Vina pasughnat.

Nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanat. You'll find those who are animal killers, the

so-called Christians and Mohammedans, they cannot understand. They (are)

simply fanatics. Cannot understand what is soul, what is God. They have got

some theories and they are thinking we are religionists. What is sin, what

is pious activities, these things are not understood by them because they

are animal killers. It is not possible. Therefore Lord Buddha propagated

ahimsa. Ahimsa. Because he saw the whole human race is going to hell by this

animal killing. "Let me stop them so that they may, in future, they may

become sober." Sadaya-hrdaya darsita: Two sides. First of all he was very

much compassionate, that poor animals, they are being killed. And another

side, he saw "The whole human race is going to hell. So let me do

something." Therefore he had to deny

the existence of the soul because their brain will not tolerate such

things. Therefore he did not say anything about the soul or God. He said

that "You stop animal killing." If I pinch you, you feel pain. So why should

you give pain to others? Never mind he has no soul; that's all right. He did

not talk anything about soul. So these people say the animals have no soul.

But that's all right, but he's feeling pain when you are killing the animal.

So you also feel pain. So why should you give pain to others? That is Lord

Buddha's theory. Sadaya-hrdaya darsita-pasu-ghatam. Nindasi yajna-vidher

ahaha sruti-jatam. He denied that: "I don't accept Vedas." Because in the

Vedas there is sometimes recommendation, not for killing, but for giving

rejuvenation to an animal. But killing, in that sense, is there for

sacrifice. But Lord Buddha did not accept even animal killing in sacrifice.

Therefore, nindasi. Nindasi means he was criticizing. Nindasi yajna-vidher

ahaha sruti-jatam sadaya-h

rdaya darsita. Why? He was so kind and compassionate. That is Krsna

consciousness. God is very kind, very compassionate. He does not like. But

when there is necessity, He can kill. But His killing and our killing is

different. He's all good. Anyone killed by Krsna, he immediately gets

salvation. So these thing are there.

 

 

ys mahesh

 

 

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