Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Can anyone pass some Bible verses on to me that suggest reincarnation? Dharmapad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Mahesh/Bhakti Anand Swami, Yes, it is true that the Bible is not our preaching platform for a variety of reasons. However, along the lines of the P.N. Oaks theme of Our World Vedic Heritage, being able to relate original, Bible philosopy to Vedic themes would help our preaching efforts enormously. Dharmapad "Mahesh" <mahesh Re: Reincarnation in the Bible Bhakti Ananda Prabhu Hare Krsna! All Glories to Srila Prabhupada Pamho Just a few instructions from OUR GLORIOUS spiritual master His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada will be enough to answer why many devotees do not wish take part in what you have suggested.----- No offense intended. Please read. Thank-you very much. 74-01-02. Letter: Bhumata There is no other scripture which can compare to the Vedic scriptures so we should study these scriptures** exclusively**. When one becomes an initiated disciple although he has respect for the Christian Bible, nevertheless he must understand the Bhagavad-gita and must apply all study there and not spend time unnecessarily with other literatures. 69-11-02. Letter: Hamsaduta Regarding your question about Lord Jesus Christ, we accept him as saktyavesa avatara. Lord Buddha is in the same category also. Lord Buddha is mentioned specifically in Srimad-Bhagavatam as incarnation of Godhead, and yet Vaisnavas do not accept his philosophy, which is classified as atheism. Similarly, even if we accept Lord Jesus Christ as saktyavesa avatara., it doesn't mean that we have to accept his philosophy. But we have all respects for him without fail. Regarding books like Aquarian Gospel or even the Testiments, we cannot accept them as authorities because sometimes it is learnt that the words are not actually spoken by Christ, but they are so set up by the devotees. For example, in the Ten Commandments it is clearly stated "Thou shalt not kill", but some Bishop in Boston has changed it to "Thou shalt do no murder". This means the Bishop wants to keep hold for animal slaughter. So don't bother about all these literatures. We have all respect for these great preac hers, but we do not require to study books save and accept for some reference. We must push on our philosophy how to love God. **Our process is simple. We have got volumes of books also, so it is better for us to mind our own business than to divert our attention in the studies of other books. This was definitely forbidden by Lord Caitanya.** NBS 12 P Narada-bhakti-sutra These ten principles of devotional service are the beginning. Additional principles are as follows: (11) One should avoid committing offenses against the holy name, the Deity, etc. (12) One should avoid associating with nondevotees. (13) One should not aspire to have many disciples. (14) One should not unnecessarily divert his attention by partially studying many books so as to appear very learned. For devotional service, it is sufficient to scrutinizingly study books like the Bhagavad-gita, the Srimad-Bhagavatam, and the Caitanya-caritamrta. (15) One should not be disturbed in either loss or gain. (16) One should not allow oneself to be overwhelmed by lamentation for any reason. (17) One should not blaspheme the demigods, although one should not worship them. Similarly, one should not criticize other scriptures, although one should not follow the principles therein. 690915LE.LON Lectures You haven't got to study many books. You just simply study Bhagavad-gita As It Is. ys mahesh - Bhakti Ananda Goswami vediculture Monday, March 07, 2005 9:38 AM Re: [world-vedic] Reincarnation in the Bible HARE KRISHNA ! SRI SRI GURU AND GAURANGA KI JAYA ! DEAR VAISHNAVAS, PAMHO. HOW UNFORTUNATE THAT AFTER OVER 30 YEARS, NOT A SINGLE VAISHNAVA HAS TAKEN MY ADVISE SERIOUSLY ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY JUST LOOK UP THE ACTUAL SANSKRIT-GREEK COGNATES IN THE SEPTUAGINT, APOCRYPHA AND NEW TESTAMENT . INSTEAD YOU ALL JUST GO ON SPECULATING, AND IGNORING THE AUTHENTIC JUDEO-CATHOLIC GREEK SHASTRAS. PLEASE, AGAIN, I BEG YOU TO ACTUALLY CONSULT THESE GREEK JEWISH AND NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES, WHERE AMONG COUNTLESS OTHER PROFOUNDLY IMPORTANT JEWISH AND CATHOLIC CONNECTIONS TO VAISHNAVISM, YOU WILL FIND "KRIMA" AND RELATED WORDS FOR GOD'S JUDGMENT, EITHER FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE, USED OVER 200 TIMES. (SEE KRIMA [KARMA], KRINO [KARMA], KATAKRIMA, KATAKRISIS, KRISIS [CRISIS, TRIAL TEST], KRITERION [CRITERIA ALSO], KRITES AND KRITIKOS [CRITIC, CRITICAL, JUDGING, JUDGMENTAL] IN MANY OF THESE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT GREEK 'OLD TESTAMENT', APOCRYPHA AND NEW TESTAMENT VERSES, THE WORD "KARMA" COULD BE EXCHANGED FOR "KRIMA" / "KRINO" ETC. WITH NO CHANGE IN THE VERSE'S TRADITIONAL JEWISH OR CATHOLIC MEANING AT ALL. HOWEVER, THE CALVINIST AND RELATED PROTESTANT MISREADINGS OF THE NEUTRAL JUDGMENT WORD "KRIMA", ALWAYS IN THE EXTREME NEGATIVE AS "DAMNATION", IS WHY THE PROTESTANT BIBLES ARE SO HEAVY ON "DAMNATION" AND 'HELLFIRE'. KRIMA [KARMA] AS GOD'S PERFECT "JUDGMENT" IS SUBJECTIVELY EXPERIENCED AS EITHER 'GOOD' OR 'BAD'. A 'CRIMINAL' IS ONE UPON WHOM A 'NEGATIVE' JUDGMENT HAS BEEN PRONOUNCED. HOWEVER, THE JEWISH AND CATHOLIC TRADITIONS MAKE IT CLEAR THAT GOD'S JUDGMENT IS ALWAYS BOTH JUST AND MERCIFUL. FURTHERMORE, THE UNIVERSAL MESSIAH JESUS CHRIST DECLARES THAT "FOR JUDGMENT I AM COME INTO THIS WORLD" JOHN 9.39. SEE ALSO MATTHEW 7.2 "FOR WHAT JUDGMENT YOU JUDGE, YOU SHALL BE JUDGED". (THERE ARE OVER 200 VERSES IN THE THREE JUDEO-CATHOLIC GREEK SHASTRAS TO STUDY IN THIS REGARD.) "CRITICCRISIS", "CRITERIACRITERION" ETC. ARE ALL "KRIMA" RELATED WORDS IN THE ENGLISH. PLEASE, I IMPLORE YOU TO SERIOUSLY TAKE UP THE STUDY OF THE GREEK JUDEO-CATHOLIC SHASTRAS OF MEDITERRANEAN RHODA-KOUROS (RADHA-KRISHNA) CENTRIC VAISHNAVISM. IN THIS TRADITION, THE 'SECOND PERSON' OF THE GODHEAD IS INCARNATE AS THE SERAPHIC GREAT PHYSICIAN, IASAS AESCLEPIUS, WHICH IS ANANTA BALARAMA IN HIS "HIDDEN INCARNATION" AS THE DIVINE NAGA-PHYSICIAN CARAKA (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE LATE COURT PHYSICIAN OF THE SAME NAME.) PLEASE STOP OUTSIDE SPECULATION AND THE STUDY OF LATE, CORRUPTED PROTESTANTISM, AND GO BACK TO THE EARLY HEBREW AND GREEK JEWISH AND CATHOLIC SCRIPTURES AND TRADITIONS. GODHEAD'S PEACE AND LOVE TO YOU ALL, BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI vediculture, "Mahesh" <mahesh@a...> wrote: > Hare Krsna! > All Glories to Srila Prabhupada! > Pamho > > > Dharmapad Prabhu wrote: > "Can anyone pass some Bible verses on to me that suggest reincarnation?" > > ================================ > > If it helps.....I came across this---somewhere long time ago-- someone mentioned to me Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura gave this type reply about the **born blind ** quote regards reincarnation in Bible-- but I do not know if this is true or not. Read the following: > > Jesus was walking with his disciples. > > In John 9:1-2 > > As he went, he saw a blind man from birth. His disciples asked him "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?" > > Note: the disciples are VERY specific as to the sin indicating committed in PREVIOUS life): > 1) this man OR > 2) his parents > > which RESULTED of him being BORN blind. > > It appears at that time they UNDERSTOOD that Karma (sinful acts performed in PREVIOUS life) which RESULTED they put down to TWO SPECIFIC causes > 1) this man OR > 2) his parents > > So, although in THIS PARTICULAR case Jesus replies,"neither this man or his parents but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life" > > BUT----- nevertheless no one can rule out the GENERAL ACCEPTED UNDERSTANDING among the disciples that it WAS > 1) this man OR > 2) his parents > > OTHERWISE, --***WHY?***---- did they bother to ask SO SPECIFICALLY > 1) this man OR > 2) his parents > > Unless, THEY ALSO understood it MUST be-- ONE or the OTHER to have been the CAUSE of sinning(reaction of Karma) PRIOR to his being--- blind from birth. > > Hare Krishna! > ys mahesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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