Saving the Mission ~ Open letter to GBC's and devotees

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Because this topic concern directly the futur of the world vedic balance,

therefore many users as me in this forum are aware of it. Please, don't be

disturbed by this top most important issue even if it seems for the moment

outside your reach.

 

Because cults and sects are part of vedic culture truth they should be lighted

as well as falsification of indian history by unscrupulous institutional

scholars and may be usefull for your own understanding.

 

I find those letters 100 % relevant or usefull. I fully sustain Gauri Prabhu's

request in his letter.

 

Thank You

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Doug Greenberg

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Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:24 PM

RE: [world-vedic] Saving the Mission ~ Open letter to GBC's and devotees

Why was this institution specific, political or ecclesiastical letter allowed to

be posted? Where is the moderator? I'm aware this particular institution has

more than a few internal venues for such letters.

 

Best regards,

Doug Greenberg

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Why was this institution specific, political or ecclesiastical letter allowed to

be posted? Where is the moderator? I'm aware this particular institution has

more than a few internal venues for such letters.

 

Best regards,

Doug Greenberg

Gauridas (AT) aol (DOT) com [Gauridas (AT) aol (DOT) com] Saturday, February 26,

2005 4:59 PMvedicultureSubject: [world-vedic] Saving the

Mission ~ Open letter to GBC's and devotees

Open Letter to all GBC's and Temple LeadersImproving the Mission

Dear GBC Members,Please accept my respectful obeisance's.All glories to our

jagat guru Srila Prabhupada! As you are having your annual international

meetings in Sridam Mayapur soon I wanted to write to you about how to improve

Srila Prabhupada's mission. I have tried for 27 years now to speak to the GBC

body. If at first you don't succeed, try try again. The reason Srila

Pabhupada's mission is struggling especially in the West is because we have not

implemented his instructions for proper initiations linking the new devotees to

Srila Prabhupada. I am qualified to speak on this subject because I was a

witness to His Divine Grace's last instructions on this and other matters. We

need to keep Srila Prabhupada as the siksa, diksa and delivering guru of his

ISKCON mission. This is what he ordered. I am not the only witness; it is also

documented on July 7th 1977 and in the July 9th 1977 Newsletter. These orders

have not been followed to date except in the Bangalore temple and on a small

scale in some of the Prabhupada anuga preaching centers. The Bangalore temple

is a shining example of how we can cooperate to preach and work together to

advance Krsna Consciousness to the devotees and society at large. Only with

Srila Prabhupada in the center can we have unity and purity and thus cooperate

to do some dynamic preaching work. What we have now is a splintered

movement with camps of devotees here and there. What we need is for all of the

devotees to be united under Srila Prabhupada; juniors still respecting the

seniors. I was present when Srila Prabhupada said he was going to leave his

body in Vrindavan. I was present when Srila Prabhupada ordered representatives

to initiate on his behalf after he physically left the planet. I was present in

his garden, when his secretary asked him questions regarding the future of

initiations and ISKCON in general. I heard Srila Prabhupada say he would always

be our guru. When the secretary asked him when we could be regular gurus Srila

Prabhupada said that we could not be gurus (except for siksa gurus of course)

in his temples. We would have to do as he did and start our oun mission. Srila

Prabhupada did not return to the Gaudiya Math to fight for properties,

disciples, money and worship or profit, distinction and adoration. As a

qualified guru he has the potency to attract and inspire us to become devotees.

If you are qualified to do this the ettiquitte is that you should do it in your

own temples; not Srila Prabhupada's. When the secretary asked if the

representative initiators could sit on vyasasanas Srila Prabhupada immediately

said, "No. That would create enmity among my disciples." He made it clear that

no others should be worshipped in his temples. The devotees who are giving

initiation today should be doing on behalf of Srila Prabhupada as the priests

represent the deliverer Jesus Christ for the true Christians. The priests

should be respected but not worshipped. The GBC should immediately stop the

worship of Srila Prabhupada's disciples on his alters. Only Srila Prabhupada

should be worshipped by all of us. Food should only be offered the traditional

way through Srila Prabhupada with the approved prayers. Today sometimes we

hear that another 'guru' has fallen down and sometimes they admit that they had

not been following the rules and regulations for quite sometime before

admitting it. Do you think foods offered to their pictures were accepted? That

is unauthorized and actually gambling. Why are we making the same mistakes year

after year? Will you rectify the situation for the benefit of the devotees and

the world before you also die? Do you want to leave with this work undone? Do

you want to be found guilty by Yamaraja of disobeying to orders of the

spiritual master? To those of you who are determined to claim to be the

deliverer of your initiates you should do so in your own centers. The rest of

us should preach on behalf of Srila Prabhupada, the siksa/diksa and delivering

guru. Dear Godbrothers, I beg you out of honesty and humility, not hate or

envy, to do the needful to help our great mission that ultimately can save the

world. If we make these changes we will see everything improve. Why not try it

and see. The current gurus just need to follow the orders to Srila Prabhupada

and the GBC to do so. Shape up or ship out! Srila Prabhupada is the only

worshipable guru in ISKCON. His representatives are very respectable; but not

worshipable. Once this last change is made the respect gained by humility will

be present and the real love and trust that Srila Prabhupada wants will grow

more and more.No matter how many 0's you have without the 1 in the front they

are useless. Let us learn a lesson from Christianity and not disregard it as

usual and not put the saktavesa Avatars; Jesus Christ and Srila Prabhupada on

the levels of the priests or visa versa.I am available and will always make

myself available at your request. I pray this happens in our lifetimes so I can

leave with a smile on my face.Hoping this meets you all well and in a

cooperative spirit.Your servant,Gauridasa Pandita Dasa

This is an information resource and discussion group for people interested in

the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its historical,

archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India, Hinduism, God,

and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.Remember, Vedic Culture is not

an artificial imposition, but is the natural state of a society that is in

harmony with God and the environment.Om Shantih, Harih Om

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Greetings Doug,

Just for the record only new members are moderated. Once a members

have been involved for a month or two, there are no longer moderated.

namaste,

at yr service,

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vediculture, "Doug Greenberg"

<dgreenberg8@a...> wrote:

> Why was this institution specific, political or ecclesiastical

letter

> allowed to be posted? Where is the moderator? I'm aware this

particular

> institution has more than a few internal venues for such letters.

>

> Best regards,

> Doug Greenberg

>

>

> _____

>

> Gauridas@a... [Gauridas@a...]

> Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:59 PM

> vediculture

> [world-vedic] Saving the Mission ~ Open letter to GBC's

and

> devotees

>

>

> Open Letter to all GBC's and Temple Leaders

> Improving the Mission

>

>

>

>

> Dear GBC Members,

> Please accept my respectful obeisance's.

> All glories to our jagat guru Srila Prabhupada!

>

> As you are having your annual international meetings in

Sridam Mayapur

> soon I wanted to write to you about how to improve Srila

Prabhupada's

> mission. I have tried for 27 years now to speak to the GBC body.

If at first

> you don't succeed, try try again.

>

> The reason Srila Pabhupada's mission is struggling especially

in the

> West is because we have not implemented his instructions for proper

> initiations linking the new devotees to Srila Prabhupada. I am

qualified to

> speak on this subject because I was a witness to His Divine

Grace's last

> instructions on this and other matters. We need to keep Srila

Prabhupada as

> the siksa, diksa and delivering guru of his ISKCON mission. This

is what he

> ordered. I am not the only witness; it is also documented on July

7th 1977

> and in the July 9th 1977 Newsletter. These orders have not been

followed to

> date except in the Bangalore temple and on a small scale in some

of the

> Prabhupada anuga preaching centers. The Bangalore temple is a

shining

> example of how we can cooperate to preach and work together to

advance Krsna

> Consciousness to the devotees and society at large. Only with Srila

> Prabhupada in the center can we have unity and purity and thus

cooperate to

> do some dynamic preaching work.

>

> What we have now is a splintered movement with camps of

devotees here

> and there. What we need is for all of the devotees to be united

under Srila

> Prabhupada; juniors still respecting the seniors.

>

> I was present when Srila Prabhupada said he was going to

leave his body

> in Vrindavan. I was present when Srila Prabhupada ordered

representatives to

> initiate on his behalf after he physically left the planet. I was

present in

> his garden, when his secretary asked him questions regarding the

future of

> initiations and ISKCON in general. I heard Srila Prabhupada say he

would

> always be our guru. When the secretary asked him when we could be

regular

> gurus Srila Prabhupada said that we could not be gurus (except for

siksa

> gurus of course) in his temples. We would have to do as he did and

start our

> oun mission. Srila Prabhupada did not return to the Gaudiya Math

to fight

> for properties, disciples, money and worship or profit,

distinction and

> adoration. As a qualified guru he has the potency to attract and

inspire us

> to become devotees. If you are qualified to do this the ettiquitte

is that

> you should do it in your own temples; not Srila Prabhupada's.

>

> When the secretary asked if the representative initiators

could sit on

> vyasasanas Srila Prabhupada immediately said, "No. That would

create enmity

> among my disciples." He made it clear that no others should be

worshipped in

> his temples. The devotees who are giving initiation today should

be doing on

> behalf of Srila Prabhupada as the priests represent the deliverer

Jesus

> Christ for the true Christians. The priests should be respected

but not

> worshipped. The GBC should immediately stop the worship of Srila

> Prabhupada's disciples on his alters. Only Srila Prabhupada should

be

> worshipped by all of us. Food should only be offered the

traditional way

> through Srila Prabhupada with the approved prayers.

>

> Today sometimes we hear that another 'guru' has fallen down

and

> sometimes they admit that they had not been following the rules and

> regulations for quite sometime before admitting it. Do you think

foods

> offered to their pictures were accepted? That is unauthorized and

actually

> gambling. Why are we making the same mistakes year after year?

Will you

> rectify the situation for the benefit of the devotees and the

world before

> you also die? Do you want to leave with this work undone? Do you

want to be

> found guilty by Yamaraja of disobeying to orders of the spiritual

master?

>

> To those of you who are determined to claim to be the

deliverer of your

> initiates you should do so in your own centers. The rest of us

should preach

> on behalf of Srila Prabhupada, the siksa/diksa and delivering

guru.

>

> Dear Godbrothers, I beg you out of honesty and humility, not

hate or

> envy, to do the needful to help our great mission that ultimately

can save

> the world. If we make these changes we will see everything

improve. Why not

> try it and see. The current gurus just need to follow the orders

to Srila

> Prabhupada and the GBC to do so. Shape up or ship out! Srila

Prabhupada is

> the only worshipable guru in ISKCON. His representatives are very

> respectable; but not worshipable. Once this last change is made

the respect

> gained by humility will be present and the real love and trust

that Srila

> Prabhupada wants will grow more and more.

>

> No matter how many 0's you have without the 1 in the front they

are useless.

> Let us learn a lesson from Christianity and not disregard it as

usual and

> not put the saktavesa Avatars; Jesus Christ and Srila Prabhupada

on the

> levels of the priests or visa versa.

>

> I am available and will always make myself available at your

request. I pray

> this happens in our lifetimes so I can leave with a smile on my

face.

> Hoping this meets you all well and in a cooperative spirit.

> Your servant,

> Gauridasa Pandita Dasa

>

>

>

>

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> Remember, Vedic Culture is not an artificial imposition, but is

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Dear Gauridas Pandit Prabhu

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Pamho

Hare Krsna!

 

> To those of you who are determined to claim to be the deliverer of your

>initiates you should do so in your own centers. The rest of us should preach

on >behalf of Srila Prabhupada, the siksa/diksa and delivering guru.

The FACT is they can NOT deliver--- only bluff--and we ALL KNOW this.

 

It requires UTTAMA adhikari *by definition* to deliver.

'uttama-adhikari' se taraye samsara

(Cc. Madhya 22.65) .

 

But because they have defied and rejected the July 9th 1977 order letter from

Srila Prabhupada this means they are not even on the category of Kanistha

adhikari! Brahmana's BASIC required qualification of TRUTHFULLNESS is absent

in them. One qualification of Brahmana is he is truthful. This disqualifies them

from being even Kanistha adhikari(beginner). Please try and understand. Their

status is actually far-- far-- far LOWER than this.

 

Actually--even to to be a Kanistha adhikari one HAS to be a QUALIFIED brahmana.

It is not so simple.

 

770214r2.may Conversations

Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari means he must be a brahmana. That is

kanistha-adhikari. The spiritual life, kanistha-adhikari, means he must be a

QUALIFIED brahmana. That is kanistha. What is esteemed as very high position in

the material world, brahmana, that is kanistha-adhikari.

arcayam eva haraye

pujam yah sraddhayehate

na tad-bhaktesu canyesu

sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah

The brahmana means from the material stage gradually he is elevated to the

spiritual stage. AND BELOW THE BRAHMANA THERE IS NO QUESTION OF VAISNAVA.

SB 1.2.20 P Divinity and Divine Service

The very same thing is confirmed herein in the above words. No ordinary man, or

even one who has attained success in human life, can know scientifically or

perfectly the Personality of Godhead. Perfection of human life is attained when

one can understand that he is not the product of matter but is in fact spirit.

And as soon as one understands that he has nothing to do with matter, he at

once ceases his material hankerings and becomes enlivened as a spiritual being.

This attainment of success is possible when one is above the modes of passion

and ignorance, or, in other words, when one is actually a brahmana by

qualification. A BRAHMANA IS THE SYMBOL OF SATTVA-GUNA, OR THE MODE OF

GOODNESS. AND OTHERS, WHO ARE NOT IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS, ARE EITHER

KSATRIYAS, VAISYAS, SUDRAS OR LESS THAN THE SUDRAS. THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE IS

THE HIGHEST STAGE OF HUMAN LIFE BECAUSE OF ITS GOOD QUALITIES. SO ONE CANNOT BE

A DEVOTEE UNLESS ONE AT LEAST QUALIFIES AS A BRAHMANA. The devotee is already a

brahmana by action. But that is not the end of it. AS REFERRED TO ABOVE, SUCH A

BRAHMANA HAS TO BECOME A VAISNAVA IN FACT TO BE ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL

STAGE. A PURE VAISNAVA IS A LIBERATED SOUL AND IS TRANSCENDENTAL EVEN TO THE

POSITION OF A BRAHMANA. IN THE MATERIAL STAGE EVEN A BRAHMANA IS ALSO A

CONDITIONED SOUL BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IN THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE THE CONCEPTION OF

BRAHMAN OR TRANSCENDENCE IS REALIZED, SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME LORD

IS LACKING. ONE HAS TO SURPASS THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND REACH THE VASUDEVA

STAGE TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD KRSNA.

They have rejected Srila Prabhupada's instructions. How can someone reject the

guru--- and then claim be guru? All lusty egocentric intoxicated madmen.

QUALIFIED UTTAMA adhikari guru is an incredible level of acheivement. Srila

Prabhupada is QUOTED by all sections of society: who QUOTES these ignorant

madmen possing as guru? Lord Krsna SPEAKS thru Srila Prabhupada THIS is why he

is QUOTED AUTHORITY. Why are these madmen bogus gurus not QUOTED?---because

Lord Krsna is NOT MANIFEST in their words. At best they can ramble a few

Bhagavatam slokas-- parrot fashion-- for self aggrandizement--NO FACTUAL

realization.

If this so-called attempt is AT ALL genuine to do something BENEFICIAL in

ISKCON let them PROVE IT by ACTION: ACCEPT Srila Prabhupada's unique position

of DIKSA guru of ISKCON and make humble public apology for wrongly misleading

AND BY DEEDS ESTABLISH THE RITVIK SYSTEM ---AS SRILA PRABHUPADA WANTED. That

WILL bring the society of devotees TOGETHER as ONE FAMILY and GLORIFY Srila

Prabhupada--and devotees will automatically appreciate them instead of loathing

--as it is happening now.Just see how Satsvarupa das is hiding behind an

overgrown beard now---just to give a named example. Shameful decite of proping

up bogus guru system---he is now trying to hide his face behind a goat-like

beard--what a miserable life!

I do not wish to name---other bogus gurus--they are so fat from no sense

control--over eating--they are an insult to even the ordinary lay person on the

street--atleast the ordinary guy goes on a diet--so there is some degree of

sense control there---these bogus gurus are so transparent you can even see

thru their *gross* anarthas. At least the guy on the street even though he be a

drunk bum does not claim to be as good as God(guru).Even though he be an

ordinary drunk bum he does not want his own Vysa puja and accept disciples---

So you can see honesty even of the most low class in comparison to devious

envious nature of the hypocrite bogus gurus of ISKCON. They are so envious of

Srila Prabhupada that the bogus gurus want to REPLACE Srila Prabhupada with

themselves as the guru. This is why they do not want the Ritvik system. And

that is the truth.

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

RITVIK--REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING INITIATIONS,

BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION.Madhya 24.330 Similarly, a

disciple's qualifications must be observed by the spiritual master before he is

accepted as a disciple. In our Krsna consciousness movement, the requirement is

that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of sinful life-illicit

sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western countries especially,

we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared to follow the

regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaisnava servant and

initiated to chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, at least sixteen rounds daily.

In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the

spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. He is

then recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread is

offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brahmana.Note:we know that

without becoming a Mahabhagavata it is an offense against the chanting of the

holy name(3rd offense in chanting) to be worshipped as good as God(Acarya).

Ritvik --the representative of the acarya allows for this function of

worshipping the acarya (Prabhupada) without slaughtering the spiritual lives of

others. Madhya 24.330 When one has attained the topmost position of

maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru AND WORSHIPED EXACTLY LIKE HARI,

the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF

A GURU.Srila Prabhupada is REVEALING HIS POSITION AS THE JAGAD-GURU(SPIRITUAL

MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD). It is Prabhupada that has distributed the holy

name(thru his books) all over the world. Krishna is His pure devotee

Prabhupada'sproperty to give.Antya 7.12 "in the Dvapara-yuga one could satisfy

Krsna or Visnu only by worshiping opulently according to the pancaratriki

system, but in the age of Kali one can satisfy and worship the Supreme

Personality of Godhead Hari simply by chanting His holy name." Srila

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura explains that unless one is directly

empowered by the causeless mercy of Krsna, one cannot become the SPIRITUAL

MASTER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD (JAGAD-GURU). One cannot become an acarya simply by

mental speculation. The true acarya presents Krsna to everyone by preaching the

holy name of the Lord throughout the world. Thus the conditioned souls, purified

by chanting the holy name, are liberated from the blazing fire of material

existence. In this way, spiritual benefit grows increasingly full, like the

waxing moon in the sky. THE TRUE ACARYA, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE ENTIRE

WORLD, MUST BE CONSIDERED AN INCARNATION OF KRSNA'S MERCY. INDEED, HE IS

PERSONALLY EMBRACING KRSNA. HE IS THEREFORE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF ALL THE

VARNAS (BRAHMANA, KSATRIYA, VAISYA AND SUDRA) AND ALL THE ASRAMAS

(BRAHMACARYA,GRHASTHA, VANAPRASTHA AND SANNYASA). Since he is understood to be

the most advanced devotee, he is called paramahamsa-thakura. Thakura is a title

of honor offered to the paramahamsa. Therefore one who acts as an acarya,

directly presenting Lord Krsna by spreading His name and fame, is also to be

called paramahamsa-thakura."Representative of the acarya" is also mentioned

SIMILARLY in (CC24.330madhya)---this is the secret. Ritvik is the SAME.Madhya

8.100 The name Radha is derived from this verse (Bhag. 10.30.28), from thewords

anayaradhitah, meaning "by Her the Lord is worshiped." Sometimes the critics of

Srimad-Bhagavatam find it difficult to find Radharani's holy name, BUT THE

SECRET IS DISCLOSED HERE IN THE WORD ARADHITAH, FROM WHICH THE NAME RADHA HAS

COME. Of course, the name of Radharani is directly mentioned in other Puranas.

This gopi's worship of Krsna is topmost, and therefore Her name is Radha, or

the topmost worshiper.77-07-09.All Letter: All G.B.C., All Temple

PresidentsPlease accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all

ofthe GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada

indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as

"RITVIK--REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING

INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION. His Divine Grace has

so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:His

Holiness Kirtanananda SwamiHis Holiness Satsvarupa dasa GosvamiHis Holiness

Jayapataka SwamiHis Holiness Tamala Krsna GosvamiHis Holiness Hrdayananda

GosvamiHis Holiness Bhavananda GosvamiHis Holiness Hamsaduta SwamiHis Holiness

Ramesvara SwamiHis Holiness Harikesa SwamiHis Grace Bhagavan dasa AdhikariHis

Grace Jayatirtha dasa AdhikariIn the past Temple Presidents have written to

Srila Prabhupadarecommending a particular devotee's initiation. Now that Srila

PRABHUPADA HAS NAMED THESE REPRESENTATIVES, Temple Presidents may henceforward

send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these

eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the

recommendation, THESE REPRESENTATIVES MAY ACCEPT THE DEVOTEE AS AN INITIATED

DISCIPLE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of

second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada

has done. THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C.

BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His

representative. After the Temple President receives a letter from these

representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the

fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly

initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or

her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace's "Initiated

Disciples" book.Srila Prabhupada’s signature appears in the original

Note: this July 9th 1977 letter was NEVER REVOKED BY SRILA PRABHUPADA. This

being the case ALL THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE

GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD for as long as ISKCON EXISTS.

Note: A History below was compiled by another devotee which shows Srila Prabhupada's intentions.

 

History:July 9th, 1977 - "Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these

representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for

first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are

nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these

representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila

Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by

chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly

initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative."

(Srila Prabhupada’s final signed Directive describing the initiation system to

be followed in ISKCON, sent to all GBC's and Temple Presidents)July 11th, 1977

- "A letter has been sent to all the Temple Presidents and GBC which you should

be receiving soon describing the process for initiation to be followed in the

future. Srila Prabhupada has appointed thus far eleven representatives who will

initiate new devotees on His behalf."

(Letter from Tamala Krishna Goswami to Kirtananda describing the above

system)July 19th, 1977 - "Make your own field and continue to be ritvik and act

on my charge."

(Room Conversation, above dictated by Srila Prabhupada to his secretary Tamala

Krishna Goswami)July 31st, 1977 - "Make your own field and continue to become

ritvik and act on my behalf."

(Above dictation sent out to Hamsaduta Swami by Tamala Krishna Goswami in a

letter)Nov 1977 - "The system of management will continue as it is now and

there is no need of any change."

(Srila Prabhupada's Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the

lifetime of ISKCON)Nov 1977 - "In the event of death or failure to act for any

reason of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be

appointed by the remaining directors, provided the new director is my initiated

disciple ..."

(Srila Prabhupada's Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the

lifetime of ISKCON. The above system of selecting directors can only work if

Srila Prabhupada's initiated disciples exist throughout ISKCON's lifetime.)