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Petar Dobrev: ORIGINS AND FIRST LAND OF THE BULGARIANS

 

For a very long time the oldest cradle of the Bulgarian tribe

remained hidden for the scrutiny of science. Some looked for it in

Altai and Mongolia, others, like D. Susulov, N. Stanishev, in Tarim,

to the East of Pamir. There were others who looked to the North, in

the Caucasus,and still others considered Bulgarians to be Europeans,

akin to the Thracians. It is only in the last years that we found

some guiding lights in thiscomplex mazeway of hypotheses. The most

important one relates to the newly found inscriptions, written in

the language of the Bulgarian rulers KUBRAT and ASPARUH. In their

form those inscriptions remind very much of the East Pamir languages

(Vakhan (Vahi), Ishkashim , Mundjan , Sarikoli and Darvaz), which is

an indicating that the landof origin of the ancient Bulgarians was

not Europe, neither was it Mongolia or Turkestan It was somewhere in

PAMIR and HINDUKUSH . We get the same evidence from the peculiar

words KAVHAN, TARKAN, ZHOPAN, ZERA, KALU, SETIT, and others, which

can be found in the old Bulgarian inscription in Greek. Such

concepts are unknown to the Mongols and the Turkic people, but they

are well known to the people of Pamir. Anthropological research also

shows that ancient Bulgarians have lived some time in the past in

Pamir. In their physical appearance the old Bulgarians resembled

very much the Pamir-Fergan racial type, that originated in the

southern and the most civilized part of Central Asia. According to

the oldest Armenian geography "the Bulgarians were among the 15

peoples "who inhabited once the land between Turkestan and the

Areans in the foots of the mountain Imai" (today Pamir and

Hindukush).Since the name Turkestan was used before 6-7th century

for the land beyond Sur-Darya, and the word "areans" was the name

for the people in the Persian region of Area, this description

indicates that the Bulgarians have lived at some period to the East

of Persia and to the West of Sur-Darya - the mountains of Pamir and

Hindukush. On the geographic map, appended to "Ashharatsuits",

recently published by academician S. Eremyan, the name of the

Bulgarians is located exactly at the point where the western ranges

of the Imeon mountains meet it snorthern ranges - the Zervansh crest

of Pamir. In the well known Latin anonymous Chronograph of 345, the

name of the ancient Bulgarians is used as a replacement of the old

Baktrinians, who inhabited the lands near the Pamir and the

Hindukush. This is to show that for the compilers of this early

historical source the Bulgarians were a part of the peoples

inhabiting the region between Persia and Turkestan. Two more facts

deserve attention. In the northern parts of the Pamir there was a

state, called by the Sogdinians BLGAR, by the Arabs -BURGAR, and by

the Tadziks - FALGAR. And to the West of the Pamir Indian sources

(MAHABHARATA and the PURANAS) mention people of the name of BOLHI ,

BAHLIKA or BOLHIKI, ruled by the ancient king KARDAMA, and the Arab

sources mention the ancient land of BALHARA. Some more details,

suggested about a century ago by Prof. Vassil Zlatarski, are also of

importance: round the mountain of Imeon there were, according to the

Byzantine historian Agatius, the lands of the Kutrigurs, Utigurs and

Vurugunds (presumably the Unogondurs). In the same region was

situated the Onogur town of Bakat, according to Simokata. And

lastly, the same region is the land of origin of the tribe of

Kozagirs in whom Zlatarski, reasonably, sees the predecessors of the

well known Bulgarian division "Kuchi-bulgar" like today's Afghan

Kuchis. All scholarly evidence of the lands of origin of ancient

Bulgarians focuses on one and the same geographic region - the Pamir

and the Hindukush. Attempts to look for the oldest lands of the

Bulgarians fareast - in Turkestan and Mongolia, where lived the

tribes PU-KU and BAIEGU, mentioned in Chinese sources, or near the

Mongolian river Tolaand the lake Balhash, have failed. For behind

the Chinese words Pu-Kuand Baiegu are hidden the Kirgiz tribes BUGU

and MAIIRKU, who have nothing in common with the ancient Bulgarians.

The name Tola in the eastern Altai languages means deep-water

river , and Balhash in Tuvinian means literally "swamp, moor".

Fortunately there is a chronicle that has survived and it describes

directly the land of origin of the Bulgarians in Europe. It was left

by Mikhail the Syrian - Patriarch of Antiohia, called for his

scholarly distinctionand erudition Mar Mikhail the Great. Here is

what he says: "At those times there came from internal Skitia

(Central Asia) three brothers,wholead with them 30 000 Skitians, and

took the road of 60 days to the gorges of Imeon (Pamir and

Hindukush) to the river Tanais (the Don),which flows into the lake

of Meotida. Those people were named by the Romans Bulgars." This

short description, discovered by Vassil Zlatarski, shows that the

lands of ancient Bulgarians were in the valleys of the Pamir and the

Hindukush. Starting from there, in about 60 days they reached the

river Don and the Azov sea. If we start in the opposite direction

from the Don to the east, we can easily confirm the correctness of

this short story. For it is true that in about 60 days one can reach

on foot from the Don to the northern foots of the Pamir, where the

old lands of BALGAR were, called even today by the local Tadziks

PALGAR. After almost two centuries of research and the endeavors of

many scholars the sacred fatherland of the Bulgarians was

discovered. This land, so dear to us, was situated in the foots of

the Pamir and the Hindukush, where since ancient times existed the

states of BALGAR and BALHARA.

 

Petar Dobrev: THE SECRETS OF OLD BULGARIAN RELIGION

 

Prior to Christianity Bulgarians had a different religion. We can

learn about it from a direct historical source the dispute of Khan

Omurtag with Cinamon of Byzantium. If you praise the Sun and the

Moon [as gods] says Cinamon to Omurtag and make me wonder at their

magnificence, and I do wonder, I still find them creations and

servants not only to God but also to us, the human beings.To which

Khan Omurtag answers: Do not abase our gods! Their power is great

and you can judge about it from the fact that we, who pay homage to

them, conquered the whole land of the Romans. (Cf. 1931, p. 256-259)

The Bulgars had the right to pay homage to their gods and to be

proud of them. In an old manuscript we find the names of Bulgarian

gods side by side with those of well-known ancient peoples. The

author of this manuscript, unknown in Bulgaria until recently and

kept in the greatest French and English libraries, is the famous

Arab scholar El-Balhi (cir. 850). Here is what he says: It is

interesting that all peoples have their own names for the Creator.

The Arabs call Him Allah in the singular, and the other deities they

call Illah; the Persians call Him Hormuz, Ized, Yazdan. In

Zaratustra he is called Hormuz, but I have also heard the names Khod-

Eht and Khod-Boreht, which means He-Himself. The Indians and the

people of Sind (Pakistan) call him Shita Vabit and Mahadeva. The

Turkic people say Bir Tengri*, which means, There is one God. The

Christians of Syria say Laha Raba Kuadussa. The Jews say in their

Jewish language: Elohim Adonai or Ehie Asher Ehie. Elohim means god

in their language. I heard the Bulgarians call the Creator with the

name Edfu and when I asked them how they call their idol, they

answered Fa. I also asked the Copts what is their name for the

Creator. They answered Ahad Shanak. (M. Tahir, Le livre de la

creation de el-Balhi. Paris, 1899, v. IV, p. 56).

[*There is a peak in the Tien Shan mountains, named Khan-Tengri -

22,949 feet/6,995 m, - and it was long regarded as the highest peak

of the Tien Shan system.]

Religious data offered by El-Balhi astound the reader with their

precision and broadness. He gives the accurate names of God used by

well-known peoples and also by some specific ethnic communities like

the Sinds from Eastern Pakistan and the Copts, almost forgotten

successors of the ancient Egyptians. It is then hardly possible that

the scholar is wrong about the Bulgarians. What is more, his text

contains the expression I heard the Bulgarians.., which indicates

that he had the data directly from the Bulgarians. Judging by this

text, our ancestors believed not only in the celestial bodies but

also in a supreme God-Creator. As different from the Persians

however, who called him Hormuz, and the Turkic people who called him

Tengri, the Bulgarians used the strange and unknown word EDFU.

The two new sources discussed here broaden and enrich our notions of

the religion of the old Bulgarians. So far scholars had only one

real fact to rely on the name TANGRA, discovered in the form of

TANGRAN by Prof. V. Beshevliev in an early Bulgarian inscription of

the 9th c. It turns out that, like the Persians, who called God with

three parallel names, the Bulgarians called him Tangra, but also

Edfu a fact completely unknown to this day.

An interesting question arises: what are the regions in which the

Creator was called with the two names of Tangra and Edfu? Something

similar, as I was able to discover, existed in one single region of

the East Pamir and Hindukush [see the maps above], where, according

to historical sources, the Bulgarians lived before they migrated to

Europe. The notion of TANDRA - lightening- is very popular there and

is connected with the supreme God of thunder. Parallel to it a

second name of God is also commonly used Hudo-ETH. Not very far from

Pamir, in the Fergan valley, we still have the word FA idol, fetish,

included in Assadis dictionary of modern Persian and referred to in

the commentaries to El-Balhis works. The use of these notions in the

region of Pamir is not accidental there was in these parts,

following the Arab scholar Massudi, an enormous temple of the Sun,

classified among the seven largest temples in the world. And the Sun

itself, in its zenith, was called with names like Adhu and Edh,

cognate with the Sanskrit notion Aditya (Sun), and especially the

epithet EDDH burning, blazing.

Such data indicate that the roots of the religion of the Bulgarians

can be found in the region of Pamir and Hidukush where they lived

before moving to Europe. Two relics of this forgotten religion were

discovered quite recently:

- a bronze rosette from Pliska, dedicated to the seven celestial

bodies and marked by the typical Bulgar symbol IYI, and two stone

slabs with the same symbol and

- drawings of the Sun and the Moon, found not far from the Bulgarska

Morava river.

To the same religion we can attribute also three newly deciphered

runic inscriptions from Murfatlar, two of which are dedicated to the

Sun and Jupiter. The third one consists of the single word EFE,

which could be a term of address to the god Edfu of the type EDFE or

some parallel name of the same god. (Cf. P. Dobrev. Universum

Protobulgaricum. New York, 1996).

Very interesting in this connection is the history of the religious

cult of the seven celestial bodies. It appears for the first time in

the Shumer-Accadian civilization where the names of the Sun, the

Moon and the five planets, known to the Ancient world, are always

accompanied by the word DINGIR god, akin to the Elam word TANRU. The

Sun is called Dingir-UTU (Sun God) by the Shumerians, the Moon is

called Dingir-sin (Moon God), etc. From this very part of the world

the cult of the celestial bodies spread radially to the East and the

West among the ancient peoples Assyrians, Indo-Iranians, Hittites,

Celts, Romans, etc. Widely spread are also words like DINGIR and

TANRU or the like: the Assyrian word TANRA heavenly body, the Indian

TARA star, the Hittite TARA heavenly light, the Celtic TARAN god of

thunder, the Anglo-Saxon THUNDER, the Pamir word TANDRA lightening,

and the remotest cognate the Turkic word TENGRI (god of the bright

blue sky).

Old Bulgarian religion, with its devotion to the seven celestial

bodies and the Supreme God, called Tangra and Edfu, is part of this

religious system. What is more, it does not represent the most

simplified Turkic variant but the initial well developed system.

This is not primitive Asiatic shamanism, as interpreted by some

authors, but one of the oldest religions of humanity. It is high

time to acknowledge this fact.

 

For more information:

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Regards,

Stefan

 

 

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THE FAMILY TREE OF KING BAHLIKA IN MAHABHARATA [Re: stefan]

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******DEVAPI*************SANTANU****************BAHLIKA

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*********BHURI**************BHURISRAVA**************SALA

 

 

 

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About UttaraKurus, Kuru/Puru and The Madras/Uttara-Madras [Re:

stefan]

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I found some information about UttaraKurus, Kuru/Puru and The

Madras/Uttara-Madras in this Web-site below:

 

http://indiaculture.net/talk/messages/128/10315.html?1069501638

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The Ramayan localizes the UttaraKurus in Bahlika country [Ethnic

Settlements in Ancient India, p 110]. According to it, Ila, son of

Parjapati Karddama, king of Bahli (Bahlika) country, gave up Bahli

in favor of his son Sasabindu and and founded a city of Pratisthana

in Madhydesa The princes of Aila dynasty [which is also the dyanasty

of Kurus], have been called Karddameya [Ramayana (Lahore Edition)

Uttarakanda, 89-3-2, pp 299-300, 309, cf Ethnic Settlements in

Ancient India, p 110]. The Karddameya obtained their names from

river Kardama in Persia and therefore their homeland is identified

with Bahlika or Bacteria and not with any other territory in India

proper [studies in Indian Antiquaries, p 234]. It is thus clear that

Kurus were originally a people of Bahlika or Bacteria. Also it be

noted that Satapatha Brahamana knows of a king named Bahlika

Pratipeya who is called KAURAVYA. [satapatha Brahamana XII 9.3.3]

and is identical with Bahlika Pratipeya of Mahabharata [MBH V, 23.9;

149.27; Journal o Royal Asiatic Society, 1910, p 52]. Vatsyana in

his Kamasutra records a peculiar custom prevalent among the Bahlikas

i.e several young men marry a single woman in Bahlika country and in

Strirajya....[Kamasutra of Vatsyayana, p 385]. and we know that

Pandavas (=Kurus) were married to one women, Draupadi. Hence it

appears very likely that the Kurus were originally a people of of

Balkh and later was identical with Uttarakurus. The Bahlika or

Bacteria is evidently beyond HinduKush (Himalaya range).

That the Madras were originally a people of Balkh is suggested by

the the Vamsa Brahamana (1/18) of the samveda, which refers to a

Madragara Shaungayani as a teacher of Aupmanyava Kamboja. [Vedic

Index II, p 61]. "Dr Zimmer has rightly thought that these two names

point to a CONNECTION OF THE KAMBOJAS and the MADRAS [Vedic Index,

II, p 123, Dr Keith & Mcdonnell; Some Kshatrya Tribes, 1924, p 231,

Dr Law]. "In aitreya Brahmana, the Uttarakurus and Uttaramadras are

described as living beyond Himalaya (VIII.14); and the Vamsa

Brahamana Kamboja Aupamanya is spoken of as a pupil of of

Madaragara; from which the Vedic Index postulates a possible

connection of the Uttaramadras with the Kambojas, who probably had

Iranain as well as Indian affinities....[Vedic Index, I.84, 138 cf:

Also Jean Przyluski, An Ancient People of Panjab; the Udumbras,

Journal Asiatique, 1926, p 11]" [india as Known to Panini, p 50, Dr

V. S. Aggarwala; Ancient Kamboja, People & the Country, 1981, p 231,

Dr Kamboj]. Since we know that the Kambojas were originally a people

of Badakshan and Pamir, [see Chapter V, The Kambojas by Dr M. R.

Singh, Jaipur University, Geographical data in Early Puranas, 1978,

p pp 163-168]. The Madras might have dwelt in Bahlikas. King Salya

of Mahabharata who was Madra king and was maternal Uncle of Nakula &

Sehdeva has been called Bahlika Pungava...foremost among the

Bahlikas...[MBH I.67.6;112.3]. and Madri, a princess of the Madra

Royal Family, has been called Bahliki [MBH I.124.21]. According to

Samangalavilasini, the wife of a chakaravarti king comes either from

Uttarakurus or from the race ogf the king of Madda [Madra].

According to Puranas, in the the Parava line, there happened to be a

king of Hastina, who founded the city of Hastinapura. Hastina had

two sons. Ajamidha and DVimidha. Ajamidha is said to have continued

the main Paurava line at Hastina pura. Dvimidha founded a seperate

dynasty. Ajamidha had three sons...Rksa, Nila & Brhadisu. Rksa

continued the main paurva line at Hastinapura and the two other sons

founded the dynasties of North and South Panchala respectively. [

Ancient Indian Historical Traditions, pp 111-113, Dr Pargiter].

According to the Ramayana, the river Bhagirathi seperated the

Panchalas from the Kurus. [Ramayana II.54.13].

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