Stop complaining, time to biuld multimedia empire

[Guest guest]

If we appeal to advertisers nobody will listen to us.It has to be

somebody whom everybody will hear.sathya sai baba or sri sri ravi

shakar will have to come forward and do this.

 

 

-- In vediculture, "Raghu" <raghu@r...> wrote:

> The US 'right' always complained that they were unfairly treated by

the

> liberal left media. What did they do: Fox TV, Rush Limbaugh radio,

> newspapers, magazines and the rest. If you want to be heard, stop

> complaining about other people and build your own multi-media

> infrastructure.

>

> I think the problem is that 'Hindu's'say that we are hundreds of

millions

> people but when when it comes to calling upon such vast numbers and

> resources, they know that such a community really does not exist.

If it

> does, then why do we not have our own international satelite TV

programing.

> Why don't we have our own dedicated studios to tell the hindu drama

and

> newspapers in every town to represent our community.

>

> The technology is too cheap, the man power and experience too

plentiful and

> the host of Indian youth actively working in a cross section of

multimedia

> industries too far reaching to sit by and hear this without seeing a

> concerted effort to tap this potential. Let's skip all these

complaints and

> focus all our energy to instead set up an effective, international

> multimedia TV, movies, radio, newspapers, magazine establishment

that can

> work in concert to represent the gifts we have to share with the

world.

>

> Lets compile a list of contacts from every media industry that

would be

> potentially interested, every contact person to establish an outlet

in every

> town starting in India and then the world, a pool of donors and

multimedia

> talent or interested in partaking in such an effort and hammer out

a plan of

> action so we are no longer left to talk like teenagers in some chat

rooms,

> but orchestrate as international force as we posture to be.

>

>

>

> Raghu.

>

>

> dchakrav@c... [dchakrav@c...]

> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:52 PM

> vediculture

> [world-vedic] Re: Petion to the Law Minister

>

>

> Jai Ramji Ki!

>

> Dear Friend:

>

> We might fail, but we must try. We cannot afford to sit idly and

see our

> country destroyed by callous and spiteful newsmen and other groups

who have

> vested interest.

>

> It will also be wonderful to contact the advertisers. Lets do both.

>

> Is there anybody who can write, and has the information?

>

> Regards,

>

> Dhruba.

>

>

> >

> > Message: 3

> > Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:09:57 -0000

> > "sreeramw" <sreeramw>

> > Re: Why is Western Media always Silent about Anti-Hindu

> Activities?

> >

> >

> > But do you seriously think its going to work.All newspapers and

tv

> > channels have actually disgraced hinduism with their catchy

phrases

> > and mocking entire community.There is one thing which will be

much

> > more effective.Appeal to corporates not to advertise on those tv

> > channels and newspapers which are anti hindu and spread false

> > propaganda against hinduism.Media is ruled by money and if u hit

them

> > there,it will really hurt them.This is the only thing which is

going

> > to work.

> >

> > If kanchi seer is proven innocent,the mutt should file a

defamation

> > suit against the political parties and media which had accused

and

> > thrown lot of muck.

> >

> >

> > In vediculture, "dchakrav" <dchakrav@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Jai Ramji Ki!

> > >

> > > Dear Friends:

> > >

> > > This is indeed a major problem, perhaps a structural problem. I

> > > rephrase the question as, "does the press have the freedom to

lie,

> > > especially with malicious intent?"

> > >

> > > Democracy works only when people participate in it. We have, so

> > far,

> > > stayed out of the system and only acted as horrified

spectators. I

> > > propose that we write a strongly-worded petition to the Central

Law

> > > Minister. Not just an e-mail petition, but an official petition.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Dhruba.

> > >

> > > In vediculture, "vrnparker" <vrnparker>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > Recent riots in Assam have been proven to have been incited by

> > > disinformation in various Indian publications. Unfounded

charges of

> > > rape and murder were published as fact and this caused some

people

> > > towards mayhem.

> > >

> > > I beleive it is high time India's legal experts begin exposing

and

> > > charging these journalists for crimes against humanity.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

____________________

> > __

> >

____________________

> > __

> >

> > Message: 4

> > Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:20:06 -1000

> > "Raghu" <raghu@r...>

> > Are you getting triplet copies of conference?

> >

> > Is anyone else getting tripelet copies of each posting from this

> conference?

> >

> > raghu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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> >

> >

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interested

> in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its

historical,

> archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India,

Hinduism,

> God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.

> > Remember, Vedic Culture is not an artificial imposition, but is

the

> > natural state of a society that is in harmony with God and the

> > environment.Om Shantih, Harih Om

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historical,

> archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India,

Hinduism,

> God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.

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natural

> state of a society that is in harmony with God and the

environment.Om

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[Guest guest]

Namste all,

My opinion on this is that we should look to the example set by

Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. he said we must take the fight to the

enemy using the same means that are used against us.

I personally beleive that today that means to use the media. India

has so much to offer yet so little has been done to present India's

glorious treasure to the world at large.

In comparison Western culture has so little to offer. However by

the all pervasiveness of its overwhelming media presence, the West

is able to make the mundane appear glorious and the glorious appear

mundane. this is the power of media.

By using the media, western power has been able to set the agenda

and force the rest of the world to jump when it says jump and sit

when it says sit.

this media power has yet to be harnessed by india's vedic/Hindu

activists.

Once vedic culture is presented to billions around the world in an

authentic way, a majority of people will naturally gravitate towards

it. This is the only real solution.

even if great spiritual leaders speak out, only those within the

circle will pay attention. Only those with focused intelligence and

insight will even notice. we must employ methods that reach towards

the common man and woman regardless of their interests and lifestyle.

vrndavan

 

 

 

 

 

vediculture, "sreeramw" <sreeramw> wrote:

>

> If we appeal to advertisers nobody will listen to us.It has to be

> somebody whom everybody will hear.sathya sai baba or sri sri ravi

> shakar will have to come forward and do this.

>

>

> -- In vediculture, "Raghu" <raghu@r...> wrote:

> > The US 'right' always complained that they were unfairly treated

by

> the

> > liberal left media. What did they do: Fox TV, Rush Limbaugh

radio,

> > newspapers, magazines and the rest. If you want to be heard, stop

> > complaining about other people and build your own multi-media

> > infrastructure.

> >

> > I think the problem is that 'Hindu's'say that we are hundreds of

> millions

> > people but when when it comes to calling upon such vast numbers

and

> > resources, they know that such a community really does not

exist.

> If it

> > does, then why do we not have our own international satelite TV

> programing.

> > Why don't we have our own dedicated studios to tell the hindu

drama

> and

> > newspapers in every town to represent our community.

> >

> > The technology is too cheap, the man power and experience too

> plentiful and

> > the host of Indian youth actively working in a cross section of

> multimedia

> > industries too far reaching to sit by and hear this without

seeing a

> > concerted effort to tap this potential. Let's skip all these

> complaints and

> > focus all our energy to instead set up an effective,

international

> > multimedia TV, movies, radio, newspapers, magazine establishment

> that can

> > work in concert to represent the gifts we have to share with the

> world.

> >

> > Lets compile a list of contacts from every media industry that

> would be

> > potentially interested, every contact person to establish an

outlet

> in every

> > town starting in India and then the world, a pool of donors and

> multimedia

> > talent or interested in partaking in such an effort and hammer

out

> a plan of

> > action so we are no longer left to talk like teenagers in some

chat

> rooms,

> > but orchestrate as international force as we posture to be.

> >

> >

> >

> > Raghu.

> >

> >

> > dchakrav@c... [dchakrav@c...]

> > Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:52 PM

> > vediculture

> > [world-vedic] Re: Petion to the Law Minister

> >

> >

> > Jai Ramji Ki!

> >

> > Dear Friend:

> >

> > We might fail, but we must try. We cannot afford to sit idly and

> see our

> > country destroyed by callous and spiteful newsmen and other

groups

> who have

> > vested interest.

> >

> > It will also be wonderful to contact the advertisers. Lets do

both.

> >

> > Is there anybody who can write, and has the information?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Dhruba.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Message: 3

> > > Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:09:57 -0000

> > > "sreeramw" <sreeramw>

> > > Re: Why is Western Media always Silent about Anti-

Hindu

> > Activities?

> > >

> > >

> > > But do you seriously think its going to work.All newspapers

and

> tv

> > > channels have actually disgraced hinduism with their catchy

> phrases

> > > and mocking entire community.There is one thing which will be

> much

> > > more effective.Appeal to corporates not to advertise on those

tv

> > > channels and newspapers which are anti hindu and spread false

> > > propaganda against hinduism.Media is ruled by money and if u

hit

> them

> > > there,it will really hurt them.This is the only thing which is

> going

> > > to work.

> > >

> > > If kanchi seer is proven innocent,the mutt should file a

> defamation

> > > suit against the political parties and media which had accused

> and

> > > thrown lot of muck.

> > >

> > >

> > > In vediculture, "dchakrav" <dchakrav@c...>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Jai Ramji Ki!

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends:

> > > >

> > > > This is indeed a major problem, perhaps a structural

problem. I

> > > > rephrase the question as, "does the press have the freedom

to

> lie,

> > > > especially with malicious intent?"

> > > >

> > > > Democracy works only when people participate in it. We have,

so

> > > far,

> > > > stayed out of the system and only acted as horrified

> spectators. I

> > > > propose that we write a strongly-worded petition to the

Central

> Law

> > > > Minister. Not just an e-mail petition, but an official

petition.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Dhruba.

> > > >

> > > > In vediculture, "vrnparker" <vrnparker>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Recent riots in Assam have been proven to have been incited

by

> > > > disinformation in various Indian publications. Unfounded

> charges of

> > > > rape and murder were published as fact and this caused some

> people

> > > > towards mayhem.

> > > >

> > > > I beleive it is high time India's legal experts begin

exposing

> and

> > > > charging these journalists for crimes against humanity.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

___________________

_

> > > __

> > >

>

___________________

_

> > > __

> > >

> > > Message: 4

> > > Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:20:06 -1000

> > > "Raghu" <raghu@r...>

> > > Are you getting triplet copies of conference?

> > >

> > > Is anyone else getting tripelet copies of each posting from

this

> > conference?

> > >

> > > raghu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

___________________

_

> > > __

> > >

>

___________________

_

> > > __

> > >

> > >

> > > This is an information resource and discussion group for

people

> interested

> > in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its

> historical,

> > archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India,

> Hinduism,

> > God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.

> > > Remember, Vedic Culture is not an artificial imposition, but

is

> the

> > > natural state of a society that is in harmony with God and the

> > > environment.Om Shantih, Harih Om

> > >

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> > >

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> interested

> > in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its

> historical,

> > archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India,

> Hinduism,

> > God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.

> > Remember, Vedic Culture is not an artificial imposition, but is

the

> natural

> > state of a society that is in harmony with God and the

> environment.Om

> > Shantih, Harih Om

> >

> > Links

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

What you say is fine,but it will need crores and crores to run tv

channels and newspapers.How do you think fund will be organised.It

is also necessary to fight biased ngos.Even we will need to create

multi layered organisations to fight anti hinduism at all levels.We

would also need to creat larger than life media personalities to

counter rajdeeps,barkhas and other hundreds like them.

 

-

 

- In vediculture, "vrnparker" <vrnparker> wrote:

>

> Namste all,

> My opinion on this is that we should look to the example set by

> Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. he said we must take the fight to the

> enemy using the same means that are used against us.

> I personally beleive that today that means to use the media. India

> has so much to offer yet so little has been done to present

India's

> glorious treasure to the world at large.

> In comparison Western culture has so little to offer. However by

> the all pervasiveness of its overwhelming media presence, the West

> is able to make the mundane appear glorious and the glorious

appear

> mundane. this is the power of media.

> By using the media, western power has been able to set the agenda

> and force the rest of the world to jump when it says jump and sit

> when it says sit.

> this media power has yet to be harnessed by india's vedic/Hindu

> activists.

> Once vedic culture is presented to billions around the world in an

> authentic way, a majority of people will naturally gravitate

towards

> it. This is the only real solution.

> even if great spiritual leaders speak out, only those within the

> circle will pay attention. Only those with focused intelligence

and

> insight will even notice. we must employ methods that reach

towards

> the common man and woman regardless of their interests and

lifestyle.

> vrndavan

>

>

>

>

>

> vediculture, "sreeramw" <sreeramw>

wrote:

> >

> > If we appeal to advertisers nobody will listen to us.It has to

be

> > somebody whom everybody will hear.sathya sai baba or sri sri

ravi

> > shakar will have to come forward and do this.

> >

> >

> > -- In vediculture, "Raghu" <raghu@r...> wrote:

> > > The US 'right' always complained that they were unfairly

treated

> by

> > the

> > > liberal left media. What did they do: Fox TV, Rush Limbaugh

> radio,

> > > newspapers, magazines and the rest. If you want to be heard,

stop

> > > complaining about other people and build your own multi-media

> > > infrastructure.

> > >

> > > I think the problem is that 'Hindu's'say that we are hundreds

of

> > millions

> > > people but when when it comes to calling upon such vast

numbers

> and

> > > resources, they know that such a community really does not

> exist.

> > If it

> > > does, then why do we not have our own international satelite

TV

> > programing.

> > > Why don't we have our own dedicated studios to tell the hindu

> drama

> > and

> > > newspapers in every town to represent our community.

> > >

> > > The technology is too cheap, the man power and experience too

> > plentiful and

> > > the host of Indian youth actively working in a cross section

of

> > multimedia

> > > industries too far reaching to sit by and hear this without

> seeing a

> > > concerted effort to tap this potential. Let's skip all these

> > complaints and

> > > focus all our energy to instead set up an effective,

> international

> > > multimedia TV, movies, radio, newspapers, magazine

establishment

> > that can

> > > work in concert to represent the gifts we have to share with

the

> > world.

> > >

> > > Lets compile a list of contacts from every media industry that

> > would be

> > > potentially interested, every contact person to establish an

> outlet

> > in every

> > > town starting in India and then the world, a pool of donors

and

> > multimedia

> > > talent or interested in partaking in such an effort and hammer

> out

> > a plan of

> > > action so we are no longer left to talk like teenagers in some

> chat

> > rooms,

> > > but orchestrate as international force as we posture to be.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Raghu.

> > >

> > >

> > > dchakrav@c... [dchakrav@c...]

> > > Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:52 PM

> > > vediculture

> > > [world-vedic] Re: Petion to the Law Minister

> > >

> > >

> > > Jai Ramji Ki!

> > >

> > > Dear Friend:

> > >

> > > We might fail, but we must try. We cannot afford to sit idly

and

> > see our

> > > country destroyed by callous and spiteful newsmen and other

> groups

> > who have

> > > vested interest.

> > >

> > > It will also be wonderful to contact the advertisers. Lets do

> both.

> > >

> > > Is there anybody who can write, and has the information?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Dhruba.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Message: 3

> > > > Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:09:57 -0000

> > > > "sreeramw" <sreeramw>

> > > > Re: Why is Western Media always Silent about Anti-

> Hindu

> > > Activities?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > But do you seriously think its going to work.All newspapers

> and

> > tv

> > > > channels have actually disgraced hinduism with their catchy

> > phrases

> > > > and mocking entire community.There is one thing which will

be

> > much

> > > > more effective.Appeal to corporates not to advertise on

those

> tv

> > > > channels and newspapers which are anti hindu and spread

false

> > > > propaganda against hinduism.Media is ruled by money and if u

> hit

> > them

> > > > there,it will really hurt them.This is the only thing which

is

> > going

> > > > to work.

> > > >

> > > > If kanchi seer is proven innocent,the mutt should file a

> > defamation

> > > > suit against the political parties and media which had

accused

> > and

> > > > thrown lot of muck.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In vediculture, "dchakrav" <dchakrav@c...>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Ramji Ki!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Friends:

> > > > >

> > > > > This is indeed a major problem, perhaps a structural

> problem. I

> > > > > rephrase the question as, "does the press have the freedom

> to

> > lie,

> > > > > especially with malicious intent?"

> > > > >

> > > > > Democracy works only when people participate in it. We

have,

> so

> > > > far,

> > > > > stayed out of the system and only acted as horrified

> > spectators. I

> > > > > propose that we write a strongly-worded petition to the

> Central

> > Law

> > > > > Minister. Not just an e-mail petition, but an official

> petition.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhruba.

> > > > >

> > > > > In vediculture, "vrnparker"

<vrnparker>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Recent riots in Assam have been proven to have been

incited

> by

> > > > > disinformation in various Indian publications. Unfounded

> > charges of

> > > > > rape and murder were published as fact and this caused

some

> > people

> > > > > towards mayhem.

> > > > >

> > > > > I beleive it is high time India's legal experts begin

> exposing

> > and

> > > > > charging these journalists for crimes against humanity.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

>

___________________

> _

> > > > __

> > > >

> >

>

___________________

> _

> > > > __

> > > >

> > > > Message: 4

> > > > Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:20:06 -1000

> > > > "Raghu" <raghu@r...>

> > > > Are you getting triplet copies of conference?

> > > >

> > > > Is anyone else getting tripelet copies of each posting from

> this

> > > conference?

> > > >

> > > > raghu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

>

___________________

> _

> > > > __

> > > >

> >

>

___________________

> _

> > > > __

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This is an information resource and discussion group for

> people

> > interested

> > > in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its

> > historical,

> > > archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India,

> > Hinduism,

> > > God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.

> > > > Remember, Vedic Culture is not an artificial imposition, but

> is

> > the

> > > > natural state of a society that is in harmony with God and

the

> > > > environment.Om Shantih, Harih Om

> > > >

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> > > This is an information resource and discussion group for

people

> > interested

> > > in the World's Ancient Vedic Culture, with a focus on its

> > historical,

> > > archeological and scientific aspects. Also topics about India,

> > Hinduism,

> > > God, and other aspects of World Culture are welcome.

> > > Remember, Vedic Culture is not an artificial imposition, but

is

> the

> > natural

> > > state of a society that is in harmony with God and the

> > environment.Om

> > > Shantih, Harih Om

> > >

> > > Links