Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Bush, Kerry brawl over Iraq, taxes, jobs http://independent-bangladesh.com/news/oct/10/10102004ap.htm#A1 Re-match shows poise, tantrum AGENCIES, ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI Oct 8: A fiercely passionate President George W Bush, fury bubbling under his skin, brawled with a cool, forensic and lawyerly John Kerry on Friday in their second televised debate. Bush, with the compact build of a rugby half-back, struck a contrast to the tall, angular and athletic senator, his wavy grey hair expensively coiffed. They sat on high bar-style stools next to tall tables, to which they returned after giving each answer, like boxers returning to their corners at the end of a round. As a town-hall audience of undecided voters watched, the two men bickered on a red carpet over Iraq, terrorism and the economy, and the subtext of the evening became clear. Kerry goaded the President with often highly personal criticism, while Bush struggled to control the ire fomenting under his carefully neutral expression. Unlike in last week's first debate, when Bush appeared tired, irritable and unleashed a now notorious repertoire of scowls and snarls, the President looked like a man determined to keep his job, and fiercely proud of his record. Kerry, less passionate, yet matching Bush for conviction, prowled the floor engaging the audience, like a lawyer coaxing a jury. On Iraq and terrorism, Bush mounted a passionate defence of his decision to wage war against Saddam Hussein, and his efforts to protect Americans after the September 11 attacks. In the testy debate rematch Bush defended his invasion of Iraq and said: "I wasn't happy when we found there weren't weapons" that prompted his administration to go to war against Saddam Hussein. Democratic challenger John Kerry responded that Bush had made the world more dangerous "because the President didn't make the right judgements." The commander in chief insisted that Saddam posed a unique threat and the world was safer without him in power. But Kerry answered that Bush's handling of the war had left Iraq in chaos. The two candidates quarreled aggressively over the war in Iraq, jobs, education, health care, abortion, the environment, and cheaper drugs at a town-hall session 25 days before the election. Just over 90 minutes, they fielded 18 questions from a select audience of uncommitted voters. Bush said that if Kerry were President, Saddam Hussein "would still be in power." The senator replied: "Not necessarily be in power ..." Bush drew criticism in his first debate with Kerry last week for scowling at his opponent's criticism. The President's frustration showed again on Friday night when he jumped from his seat for forceful answers. At one point, he interrupted moderator Charles Gibson after Kerry had said he was "not going to go alone like this President did" in Iraq. "I've got to answer this," Bush said, cutting off Gibson, then indignantly responded to Kerry. "You tell Tony Blair we're going alone." There were noticeable snickers in the audience when Bush referred to rumours on the "Internets" about the draft. As Kerry accused Bush of taking "his eye off the ball -- Osama bin Laden," Bush stared from his stool, rising anger betrayed by his rapid blinks, and a vein pumping on his temple. The dam broke when Kerry, arguing that he would enlist US allies in a way that Bush never did said: "We're not going to go alone like this President did." Bush leapt off his stool, rasping, "I got to answer that," as moderator Charles Gibson vainly tried to put another question. "Tell Tony Blair, we're going alone. Tell Silvio Berlusconi we're going alone. Tell Alexander Kwasniewski of Poland we're going alone," he shouted. Kerry aides painted the President's flash of anger as the furious thrashing of a wounded animal. "He was screaming, he was stamping around, he charged Charlie at one point, he clearly didn't look like the President of the United States," said Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe. But one of Bush's closest aides, Karen Hughes, not surprisingly had the opposite view. "Senator Kerry looked testy. I think President Bush was the clear winner." While the debate was open to all subjects, Iraq was a dominant theme. Criticising the President's decision to invade the Arabian Gulf nation, Kerry said, "If we'd use smart diplomacy, we could have saved $200 billion and an invasion of Iraq and right now Osama Bin Laden might be in jail or dead. That's the war on terror." The debate came two days after the chief U.S. arms inspector reported that Saddam did not have illicit weapons nor the means to make them. Bush said: "We didn't find out he didn't have weapons till we got there." Weapons of mass destruction was the central rationale for the war that has cost more than 1,000 American lives. The debate - the second of three - opened with a question to Kerry about whether he was too wishy-washy. Kerry turned that question into an attack against Bush, saying the President "didn't find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, so he's really turned his campaign into a weapon of mass deception" by claiming that the four- term Massachusetts senator had changed his mind when he had not. "I can see why people think he changes a lot," Bush retorted, "because he does." He pointed out that Kerry had said he had voted for an $87 billion appropriation for Iraq and Afghanistan before he voted against it. Kerry used the opportunity to point out that the nation has suffered a net job loss under Bush. Expanding his criticism of Bush on Iraq, Kerry said the President had diverted resources from the war against terror and also ignored a threat from Iran as it accelerated its nuclear programme. "It's a threat. It's a huge threat. It has grown while the President was preoccupied with Iraq," the Democratic challenger said. After stumbling in the first debate with a scowling performance, Bush sought to regain his footing, reassure Republicans and throw Kerry on the defensive. Kerry, meanwhile, hoped to build on the momentum of their first encounter, which gave him a lift in the polls. Responding to criticism from Kerry in their second debate, Bush said, "That answer almost made me want to scowl." He went on to accuse the senator of advocating a policy that was "naive and dangerous" for bilateral talks between the United States and North Korea rather than the six-nation negotiations set in motion by the Bush administration. Bush also set to lay to rest persistent rumours that the war in Iraq would require the United States to return to a military draft. "We're not going to have a draft. Period," the President said. The Republican incumbent accused Kerry of denigrating the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq with his claim that the United States is shouldering 90 per cent of the costs and casualties. "We've got 30 countries there," Bush said, his voice rising. He mentioned Britain, Italy, Poland as well as other allies. "Mr. President, countries are leaving the coalition, not joining," Kerry said, asserting that eight countries are pulling out their troops from post-war Iraq. Bush and Kerry also were put on the spot about their plans for the economy. Kerry accused Bush of transforming huge budget surpluses into massive deficits with tax cuts for the rich during wartime. Bush said Kerry would have to raise taxes on middle-class Americans to pay for $2.2 trillion (1.8 trillion) in new spending programmes. "That's just reality," Bush insisted. One questioner asked Bush whom he would pick if there were a Supreme Court vacancy. "I'm not telling you," the President said. "I really haven't picked anybody yet." He added lightheartedly, "Plus I want them all voting for me." Kerry said that if he had to pick a Supreme Court justice, "I want to make sure we have judges who interpret the Constitution of the United States according to the law." Asked about abortion, Kerry, who supports a woman's right to have an abortion, noted that he was a Roman Catholic but said he could not let his faith influence his decision. In a long, rambling answer, he said the United States should not bar the use of federal money for family planning programmes overseas. Referring to Kerry's answer, Bush said, "I'm trying to decipher that." Confronting the question directly, he said, "We're not going to spend federal money on abortion." The third and final debate will be held Wednesday in Tempe, Arizona, with the focus on domestic issues. Both men came across as well prepared, each with an eye for engaging the audience, hoping to connect with not just them, but tens of millions of viewers at home. Kerry tried to speak in snappy short sentences, to counter his reputation for windy rhetoric -- though Bush did try and skewer him with his reputation, saying "I am just trying to decipher that." At times, however, Kerry's style, though effective, did seem slightly forced, as when he was asked if he would swear not to raise taxes on the middle classes. "Absolutely. Yes. Right into the camera. Yes. I am not going to raise taxes." The first two polls taken immediately after the debate gave a slight edge to Kerry. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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