Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Note: forwarded message attached. "Mohan Gupta" mgupta "a4India\"" info Ill affects of retaining and propagating English in Bharat Sun, 1 Aug 2004 00:08:43 -0400 Ill affects of retaining and propagating English in Bharat Weekly “Truth” is a small magazine published from Kolkatta. Magazine may be small, but it is a very good quality magazine. This magazine pleads the case of Sanskrit very strongly and writes about ancient culture of Bharat from time to time. Some years ago, it published one article where it was mentioned that in olden days, there was no theft and corruption in Bharat and people did not put locks on their doors. Early British rulers were very much surprised about Bharatiya culture and honesty of Bharatiya people. The article by giving quotations mentioned that as collapse of the Bharatiya Education System, Sanskrit, Hindi started in Bharat and English took over the place of Sanskrit / Hindi, then cheating, deception, robbery, stealing, corruption started in Bharatiya people. Sanskrit has some intrinsic power in it. Sanskrit encourages or gives strength to people not to cheat, lie, rob or do any kind of corruption. English affects people unconsciously. Only those people who have got very good Bharatiya Sanskars and have read Bharatiya literature very well, can escape the ill effects of English language. English is not only a simple language; it is much, much more. A language is associated with the religion, culture, and system of working of nation, literature of the country, festivals, traditions and many more things. English played a big role in spreading Christianity in Bharat and in other parts of the world, all festivals of western Christian world have come to Bharat, festivals like Valentine’s Day (which is a sort of vulgar festival), has taken root in Bharat. Due to education of English language, Bharatiya people know more about English authors, English literature, English poems, rather than Bharatiya authors, Bharatiya literature and Bharatiya poetry. People know more about Shakespeare, Milton rather than Kalidasa, Hari Bachhan, Mathlisaran Gupt and many more famous Bharatiya authors. This fact does not encourage confidence in Bharatiya culture. Many newspapers and other media in Bharat give the importance of the day from British history, These Bharatiya media people do not mention any important event from Bharatiya history, as for these media people, history of Bharat is a history of slavery and there is no important event in Bharatiya history worth mentioning. When Israel was formed, then many people expected that Israel would adopt English, French or German for its official business. Israeli people knew very well that if they adopted any foreign language, then they would have to accept the mental slavery of the nation of which country they adopt language. By adopting a foreign language, Israel would have to accept religion, culture, traditions, manners, literature, festivals and many more things of the nation from where they adopt the language for their official work. Therefore Israel instead of adopting a foreign language revived their dead Hebrew language. Dead Hebrew language did not have much vocabulary of modern words. A committee was formed for the development of New Hebrew words. Israel media played a big role in developing, spreading, making familiar and acceptance of New Hebrew words. New developed words of Hebrew were published in Israeli media. Comments were invited on New Hebrew coined / developed words. By hit and trial, with the formation of New Hebrew words with the help of Israeli media, a New Hebrew language came into being. Now compare the behavior of Bharatiya media with Israeli media. Hindi Film industry says that they spread Hindi. The fact is Hindi film industry is destroying Hindi. In the name of Hindi, entertainment media spread more Urdu and English languages. Hindi Film industry by use of Urdu and English words, are making popular more Urdu and English words rather than Hindi words. Film media make film in Hindi but give 100% cast of Hindi film in English. Some Hindi films even do not write the name of Hindi film in Hindi. A girl came to me and said that her father is from Allahabad – Bharat, but her mother is English. As she belongs to Bharatiya culture to some extent, she wants to learn Hindi. I asked her if she could understand spoken Hindi? She said that she has seen some Hindi films, therefore could understand a few Hindi words (which were in fact Urdu words). She picked more words Urdu than Hindi words from Hindi films. I asked her if she has seen Hindi alphabets ever. She was not sure if she has ever seen Hindi alphabets. I handed her one Punjabi, one Urdu and one Hindi newspaper. She could not tell me which paper was Hindi paper. She asked me why Hindi films give cast in English? All the Hindi film / TV producers should rot in hell as these people make money on the name of Hindi, even then media people do not show the audience how the Hindi alphabets are written and how the Hindi words look like, and for promoting Urdu and English languages on the name of Hindi. Manufactures of CD cassettes of Hindi songs and producers of Hindi film DVDs should also rot in hell, as these people also do not write Hindi on the cover of their products. These cassettes are made of Hindi films and DVDs are of Hindi films, but manufacturers do not write Hindi on the cover. The media people make money with the name of Hindi, but ignore Hindi and promote Urdu / English languages. The food they eat with this ill-gotten money should turn into worms into their stomach. Take the case of Hindi print media. Hindi magazine “Grah Sobha” is published by Delhi Press. The editor uses lots of English words, apart from Urdu words in Hindi magazine, saying that many educated women use English words in their conversation. The editor does not realize the simple fact that while conversing, there are only some limited people, which may be at the most 10 people, while magazine is read by hundred thousand people. There might be some readers who might not understand those English words used in Hindi magazine “Grah Sobha”. Moreover the duty of Hindi press is to promote and popularize Hindi words, it is not their duty to promote English words. Monthly Meri Saheli Hindi magazine is one of the worst magazines for using Urdu and English words in Hindi magazine. These people do not realize that they are perpetuating mental slavery in Bharat. In broadcasting media, there would hardly be any forum; which uses pure Hindi. Many kinds of animals can be trained. BBC Hindi service uses lots of Urdu words in its Hindi service. This fact has been brought to their notice many, many times; even then BBC service uses lots of Urdu words. An animal can be changed and trained, but not the BBC Hindi staff. These people are worse than animals. There are many, many more such Hindi media people. Many Bharatiya people keep repeating like a broken record that English is a world language. Such people are of extremely poor knowledge with no common sense. These people have never seen any World Book of Learning or Almanac or any kind of Year Book. The fact is that more people know Chinese language than English in the world. It might be news to some people that Hindi language is understood by more people than English in the world. But the problem is that most of the Hindi knowing are confined in Bharat and many Hindi knowing people are poor people with less power of buying Hindi magazines and Hindi newspapers, while English educated people earn lot more money. There are many countries in the world, where it would be difficult to find English knowing person. It is only Bharatiya slave people, for whom English is a world language. There is one very major disadvantage of learning English, which Bharatiya media would never discuss. Many Gay and Lesbian magazines of the western world advise their readers to go to Bharat for enjoying young boys and girls sexually. As many people know English in Bharat, western tourists would have no difficulty in finding young boys and girls for sexual enjoyment. Knowledge of English language by Bharatiya people invites predators from western world. Many countries of the world conduct their business in language other than English. Apart from Italy, German, France, even China, Japan and Arabic countries do not conduct their business in English. These countries are surviving and prospering without English. When Bharat is compared to China, many people say that Bharat has got some edge over China in outsourcing and in world trade, as there are more English knowing people in Bharat. Without going in detail and quoting the figures of trade, in the nutshell I would say these people should become beggars. These people should not have any shame in begging, as these people have no pride in their language, culture and nation. Even then Bharat would still have some edge over China. A country should have leaders, language, laws, which would bring respect and glory to the nation. For congress party, if Sonia Gandhi becomes Prime Minister of Bharat, then they would feel proud and would think that Bharat has honored a foreign lady and Bahu of Nehru and Ghandey family, but I would feel ashamed, as I would realize that I still belong to a slave nation. Bharatiya politicians, media people, general public feel proud with English. These people do not realize that these people bring shame to the nation and perpetuate mental slavery. It looks the condition is such now that Bharatiya people cannot live without slavery. Instead of physical presence of foreign people, they have adopted English language as symbol of their slavery. Bharatiya people have got no desire to develop their language and culture. They have got no desire to make Sanskrit and Hindi prominent language of the world. As small plant does not grow under the shadow of large tree, similarly Hindi / Sanskrit cannot grow till English has dominant position in Bharat, English is taught in Bharatiya schools from grade 1. English must be downgraded from Bharat. When Bharat got independence, Britain lost its empire. If Hindi gets dominant position in Bharat, then English would lose its dominant position and status in the world, which it has got now in the world. Reading classics broadens the mind. It also offers clues that help to sort out knotty contemporary concerns. The national question fills a large part of the socialist literature spanning from the mid-19th century. The reasons not at all obscure. A nation consists of a group of people who have a government of their own. Should some heterogeneity, such as of language and culture, distinguish the people constituting the nation, these are assumed to be taken care of by the deft hand of the government. The hand, however, can often be far from deft. The people are not unified, they are a baggage of nationalities riven by differences in ethnicity, language and culture, and the regime may fail to bring them together. We Hindus consider ourselves progressive if we desert our ideals. This wrong impression creates lots of problems for Hindus. By deserting time tested Hindu ideals, lead us to a life which is incomplete and where aim of life is not clear. If aim is not clear, ideas are not clear, life also becomes just a like a boat, which does not have oar and have no destination. Slavery and imitation of foreign languages and foreign ideals would neither provide any aim or happiness to Hindus as individuals or as a Hindu nation. "Hindu" is a name given by invaders to the "dhaarmik" people of Bharat followers of Santana Dharma. It is a pity that over the centuries they started responding to that name just like perhaps the negroids when they were slaves responded to "hey there boy" in the US or the aborigines in Australia to "hey there abo" - It is also a pity they have now forgotten they are free - they carry their jail in their minds... and willfully pass on their bondage to their children... Politicians like education minister of Rajasthan Ghanshyam Tiwari are slave people and want to spread mental slavery in whole Bharat. Media people should make films how the African slave people were treated by the colonizers. Education minister of Rajasthan Ghanshyam Tiwari should be treated, as slaves of Africa were treated. Present education system of Bharat does not bring glory to Bharat. These people do not realize how much extra burden, these politicians put on the Bharatiya children by teaching children English from grade 1. =========== "Vyom Akhil" <vyomakhil (AT) xxxxxx (DOT) com> Comments on EnglishEnglish is a very stupid language. But more pertinent is the fact that those who had such a stupid language to learn as their mother tongue were able to overcome nearly all their major habitat handicaps, crossed the daunting oceans, nearly circumvented the globe and established an empire on which the Sun never set. Of course, they were clever people who, in many ways, were - and continue to remain - stupid and muddled; people entangled and trapped in their own invention - the English language; people, for ever so busy in search of the right word that they seldom have any time left to have the right thought. In most of the countries in the world today where English is accorded an elitist status - and India is arguably the ' jewel in that crown' - it is an imperial vestige that reinforces and institutionalizes existing social disparities and distortions. Most people in these land are not truly 'westernized anglophiles' but they were better identified by an Iranian intellectual as 'westoxicated."English is less a language, more a Band-Aided potpourri of diverse patois, that, in its formal structure, ends up more recondite, obfuscatory, linear and exclusionary, the more it tries to be accurate and precise. As a communicational tool, it is like a wild horse that challenges taming. To call this ' language' of current global trade and commerce is to admit that it is less an international language, more an international harlot (call-girl).If human speech could be analogized to the states of matter, then some languages, Sanskrit, for instance, have a solid crystalline structure; elegant and uplifting patters of sounds that reach out to express that which is beyond expression. Others are amorphous and powdery; they have speech patterns that seldom allow anyone to deviate or digress into new territory other than set in the past; the Arabic languages could probably make good illustrations of these. Then there are languages that are like liquids with various degrees of viscosity - languages with engaging rhythms and cadences, French and Bengali, and perhaps, those spoken amongst the Mongol people - Mandarin, Tagalong, Cambodian come to mind. The folk languages are simple, like cascading streams and gurgling brooks. They usually have rich oral content. Many are without their own scripts. Most are spoken in relatively small regions. Humankind is, per the experts who keep track of these things, will lose most of them before this century is over.Then there are languages - and English is a spectacular example - which are volatile like gas; lots of volume but little content; hardly any memory informs them. Like a shifty character, they are always borrowing from Paul to pay Peter. To keep alive they have to constantly reinvent themselves. Their grammar is unacceptably defective and their scripts are usually plagiarized. Of inattentive minds, they make miasmic cesspools that bubble with resentment, discontent, anger, greed and aggression. They can, however, can spread like a forest fire burning whatever touches them - heritage, tradition, culture, history, feelings and emotions that belong to communities that are meek and would rather live in peace and contentment. But those few, who are blessed - the saints and the poets - can take whatever sounds are available to them and create a form of language that is charged like plasma. Their thoughts arc out in all directions and their words defeat mortality. It is a miracle that they are able to nearly immunize their insights from the deformations that are the lot of all thoughts that is expressed.India.com free e-mail - www.india.com. ============== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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