Arya-samaja

May 23, 2004

Dear Virin Parker ,

Namaste,

Please monitor the VEDICCULTURE@ group in order to avoid any

misinterpretation/creating hateful atmosphere by some of the people such as

Mahesh who is twisting the the name of Reform movement of Arya Samaj. Without

Arya Samaj people like MAhaesh will not dare to go out of India and 80 % of

those who sacrifieced t ogo to Jails for liberation of peaceful India from the

clutches of British were of Arya Samaj background as written by Historian

Pannikar. The facts speak it self. Without Arya Samaj Movent India would be

British colony. so Give up your British thinking for greater good of Mankind.

Without Arya Samaj Hydrabad would have become another Pakistan and all thoise

Muslims would have cut your neck like slaughtering goats . That was done in

Begaldesh and in SIndh and other parts of Pakistan. Do not forget Mauhamd Gauri

and Gajanavi , Kuttubuddeen who destroyed thosuands of Hindu Temples and cut the

neck of their priests , Auranzeb also did the same and Jinnah completed their

work in Pakistan.

Shall we keep on going ?????? for Hindu Temples and Priests.

So think with cool mind without Arya Samaj where you would be to-day?

Thanks

Sincerely ,

Deen B Chandora

>"Mahesh" <mahesh (AT) agtsp (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> >

vediculture >"Vediculture"

<vediculture>,<vaisnava_synod> >Subject:

[world-vedic] Arya-samaja >Sat, 22 May 2004 18:50:52 +0100 > >Arya-samaja

> > > >SB 5.15.1 P The Glories of the Descendants of King Priyavrata > Those

who are Aryans strictly follow the Vedic principles, but in this age of Kali a

community has sprung up known as the arya-samaja, which is ignorant of the

import of the Vedas in the parampara system. Their leaders decry all bona fide

acaryas, and they pose themselves as the real followers of the Vedic

principles. These acaryas who do not follow the Vedic principles are presently

known as the arya-samajas, or the Jains. Not only do they not follow the Vedic

principles, but they have no relationship with Lord Buddha. Imitating the

behavior of Sumati, they claim to be the descendants of Rsabhadeva. Those who

are Vaisnavas carefully avoid their company because they are ignorant of the

path of the Vedas. In Bhagavad-gita (15.15) Krsna says, vedais ca sarvair aham

eva vedyah: "The real purpose of the Vedas is to understand Me." This is the

injunction of all Vedic literatures. One who does not know the greatness of

Lord Krsna cannot be accepted as an Aryan. Lord Buddha, an incarnation of Lord

Krsna, adopted a particular means to propagate the philosophy of

bhagavata-dharma. He preached almost exclusively among atheists. Atheists do

not want any God, and Lord Buddha therefore said that there is no God, but he

adopted the means to instruct his followers for their benefit. Therefore he

preached in a duplicitous way, saying that there is no God. Nonetheless, he

himself was an incarnation of God. > >TLC 24 Talks with Sarvabhauma

Bhattacarya > According to Lord Caitanya, those who try to give personal

interpretations to the Vedic statements are not at all intelligent. They

mislead their followers by inventing their own interpretations. In India there

is a class of men known as arya-samaja who say that they accept the original

Vedas only and reject all other Vedic literatures. The motive of these people,

however, is to give their own interpretation. According to Lord Caitanya, such

interpretations are not to be accepted. They are simply not Vedic. Lord

Caitanya said that the Vedic statements of the Upanisads are like sunlight.

Everything is clear and very distinct when it is seen in the sunlight; the

statements of the Vedas are similarly clear and distinct. The Mayavadi

philosophers simply cover the sunlight with the cloud of misinterpretation. >

>730807BG.LON Lectures > So here Arjuna says that

karpanya-dosopahatah-svabhavah. "I am ksatriya." He understands that: "I am

doing wrong. I am refusing to fight. Therefore, it is karpanya-dosa, miserly."

Miserly means I have got some means to spend, but if I don't spend this is

called miser. Krpanata. So krpanata. There are two classes of men, brahmana and

sudra. Brahmana and sudra. Brahmana means he's not miser. He has got the

opportunity, great asset of this human form of body, many millions of dollars

worth, this human... But he's not using it properly, simply seeing it: "How

beautiful I am." That's all. Just spend your beauty or utilize your asset, the

human... That is brahmana, to be liberal. And the... Etad viditva prayati sa

brahmanah, One who knows... Therefore Prahlada Maharaja says: durlabham

manusyam janma adhruvam arthadam. He was preaching amongst his class friends.

He was born in a demonic family, Hiranyakasipu. And his class friends, also, of

the same category. So Prahlada Maharaja was advising them: "My dear brothers,

let us cultivate Krsna consciousness." So other boys, what do they know about

Krsna conscious...? Prahlada Maharaja is liberated from the very birth. So they

said: "What is this Krsna consciousness?" They could not understand. So he was

convincing them: durlabham manusyam janma tad apy adhruvam arthadam. This human

body is durlabham. Labdhva sudurlabham idam bahu sambhavante. This human form of

body is a great concession given by the material nature. People are so miscreant

and foolish. They do not understand what is the value of this human form of

life. They engage this body for sense gratification like cats and dogs. The

sastra therefore says: "No, this human form of body is not meant for spoiling

like the hogs and dogs." Nayam deho deha-bhajam nr-loke. Everyone has got a

body, material body. But nr-loke, in the human society, this body is not to be

spoiled. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nr-loke kastan kaman arhati vid-bhujam ye. This

human form of life, simply working uselessly hard, day and night, for sense

gratification. This is the business of the hog and dog. They are doing also the

same thing, whole day and night, working hard simply for sense gratification. So

therefore in the human society there must be a system of division. That is

called varnasrama-dharma. That is Vedic civilization. That is really called

Arya-samaja. Arya-samaja does not mean to become rascal and fool and deny the

existence of God. No. That is Anarya. Just like Krsna rebuked Arjuna:

anarya-justa. "You are talking like anarya." One who is not Krsna conscious,

he's anarya. Anarya. Arya means who is advancing in Krsna consciousness. So

really Arya-samana means Krsna conscious person. Otherwise, bogus, bogus

arya-samana. Because here from the Bhagavad-gita says, Krsna says Arjuna,

rebuking, because he was refusing to fight, because he does not know what is

his duty, again Arjuna is admitting here that karpanya-dosopahata-svabhavah.

"Yes, I am anarya. I have become anarya. Because I have forgotten my duty." >

So actually aryan samaja means Krsna conscious society, International

Society for Krsna... That is Arya. Not bogus. So here, Arjuna is explaining,

putting himself: "Yes, karpanya-doso. Because I am forgetting my duty,

therefore upahata-svabhavah, I am bewildered in my natural propensities." A

ksatriya should be always active. Whenever there is a war, there is fight, they

must be very much enthusiastic. A ksatriya, if another ksatriya says: "I want to

fight with you," he, oh, he cannot refuse. "Yes, come one. Fight. Take sword."

Immediately: "Come one" That is ksatriya. Now he's refusing to fight.

Therefore, he can understand... (aside:) You can stand this side, not in front.

He's forgetting his duty, ksatriya duty. Therefore, he's admitting: Yes,

karpanya-dosa. Karpanya-dosopahata-svabhavah. "My natural duty I am forgetting.

Therefore I have become miser. Therefore my..." Now when you become miser, that

is a diseased condition. Then what is your duty? Then go to a person who can...

Just like when you become diseased, you go to a physician and ask him "What to

do, sir? I am now suffering with this disease." This is your duty. Similarly,

when we are perplexed in our duties, or we forget our duties, it is very nice

to go to the superior person and ask him what to do. So who can be superior

person than Krsna? Therefore Arjuna says: prcchami tvam. "I am asking you.

Becuase it is my duty. I'm now falling in my duty, faulty. So this is not good.

So I must ask somebody who is superior to me." That is the duty. Tad

vijnanartham sa gurum eva abhigacchet. This is the Vedic duty. Everyone is

perplexed. Everyone is suffering in this material world, being perplexed. But

he'll not search out a bona fide guru. No. That is karpanya-dosa. That is

karpanya-dosa. Here, Arjuna is coming out of the karpanya-dosa. How? Now he's

asking Krsna. Prcchami tvam. "My dear Krsna, You are the most superior person.

That I know. You are Krsna. So I am perplexed. Actually, I am forgetting my

duty. Therefore, I am asking You." > >740614rc.par Conversations

>Prabhupada: Gopinatha, yes. So Gopinatha temple, Madana-Mohana temple,

Radha-Damodara temple, Syamasundara and Gokulananda, Gokulananda. These are old

seven temples. Later on, other big, big temples. Ranganatha temple and Gaekwad

(?) temple, like that, Jaipur temple. They came into existence. But there are

five thousand temples in Vrndavana's city, municipal area. Practically each

house is a temple. In every house there is Radha-Krsna Deity and being

worshiped by some devotees. The Arya-samaji movement... You know something

about Arya-samaja? >Professor La Combe: Yes. >Prabhupada: Dayananda Sarasvati,

he made vigorous propaganda against temple worship. Nobody cared. (laughs)

Nobody... >Professor La Combe: Even now, nowadays, now they are... >Prabhupada:

No, their influence is gone, Arya-samaja. >Professor La Combe: No, I mean the

Arya-samaja is no more very active now. >Prabhupada: They cannot active,

because whatever activity they had, they finished. The stock and energy is

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May 23, 2004