Sumerian Ka-Muru and Indian Mount Meru

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- In Ta_Seti, "K. Loganathan" <ulagankmy>

> wrote:

> > The Sumerian Ka-Muru and the Indian Mount Meru

> >

> > Recently our friend Sathiya who posts regularly to akandabaratam

> has brought to our understanding how right from Japan to

the

> Americas there were great civilizations that built Pyramidal

> temples . The oldest among these appear to be those of the Japanese

> now beneath the sea and where a huge rock-cut face along with some

> inscriptions have been discovered. Some of the symbols resemble

those

> of the Indus Valley script. The common theme in all these cultures

is

> the Pyramid perhaps a Model of the Universe and this construction

of

> pyramidal-towers still alive among the Dravidian folks to this day

> and which has shaped their sciene and metaphysics as well.

> >

> > In the Indian mythologies we have also the Mount Meru, the abode

of

> the gods and invisible to the fiends and other evil powers. Now the

> following lines from Utuhegals account of his expedition againts

the

> Gutians to recover Sumeru (taken from C.J Gadd's Sumerian reading

> Book) there occurs the phrase "ka-muru' (line 42) which may

actually

> be Mount Meru (ku-muru< su_muru? , perhaps in those days (c. 2300

BC)

> a real hill-like Temple lofty and faultless etc and which later

> entered the Hindu mythologies with some fanciful meanings.

> >

> > I just give these lines for those who may be interested.

> Incidentally I think Sumerian is Archaic Tamil and in the Lexical

> Notes I give evidences for this. This is not yet generally accepted

> by scholars, though, as far as I can see, the evidences are

> overwhelming.

> >

> > Loga

> >

> >

> >

> > 43. bar-i-li-tab-ba-e-ka ( When from the shrine of Ili-tabba) zi-

ga-

> ni (he had departed)

> > 44. u(d)-as-kam-ma ( on the sixth day) ka-muru-(KI)-ka (´ver

> against Muru) gis-ne-du (he reached)

> > 45. *iskur-ra (Unto Iskur) mu-na-an-gin (he went) sub ( a prayer)

> mu-na-tum (he bought)

> > 46. *iskur (Oh Iskur!) tukul (the weapon) *en-lil-li ma-an-si

> (Enlil has given to me)

> > 47. a-tah-mu (my support) he-me( be thou)--------------

> > 48. erim ( An army) mu-na-sug (he led out) *utu-he-gal (Utu-he-

gal)

> > 49. nitah-kal-ka (the might man) UKU.GAN-im-mi-si (smote)

> > 50. sagub-bi (those lieutinanats). u(d)-ba (on that day) ti-ri-

ga-a-

> an (Titigan)

> > 51. lugal-gu-ti-um-(KI) (King of gutium) as-a-ni (solitary) gir-

ba-

> da-an-kar(fled away)

> >

> >

> >

> > Lexical Notes:

> >

> > 43. bar-i-li-tab-ba-e-ka ( When from the shrine of Ili-tabba):

Ta.

> para ili tabbu il-aka : from the lofty temple of no faults. Bar,

> bara: Ta.para: lofty. Su bara: on raised platform. See Ta. paraN:

> raised platform tab-ba: Ta . tappu: faults, wrongs. I-li> Ta. ili:

a

> particle of negation, without. e-ka> Ta. il aka: fro the temple

> > zi-ga-ni (he had departed) : Ta. celka-nii : Here the `nii'

occurs

> in the sense of `he' where the primordial meaning is "person'

> >

> > 44. u(d)-as-kam-ma ( on the sixth day) : already considered.

> > ka-muru-(KI)-ka (over against Muru): kaN muru aka = kaN meeru

aka :

> The inside land of Meeru? Could it be that the Muru here is

actually

> the Mount Meru not a mythological thing as in the Indian

mythologies

> but actually a hill-like Temple , the one without faults and really

> lofty?

> > gis-ne-du (he reached) = gisin-edu > Ta. kiddin-idu ?

> >

> > 45. *iskur-ra (Unto Iskur) : Ta. iis. kunRa : the Hill of Isa -

> the Divine Hill?. Perhaps the Muru described as bar-ili-tabbu, is

> also iis-kunRu, i.e. the hill of Isan , one of the names of Siva.

> > mu-na-an-gin (he went)= mu-na-in-gin > Ta. munin.niiL : he

departed

> or went. The `-in' in `mun-in' may a tense marker with `mun'

perhaps

> here the adverbial `forward' thau the whole phrase meaning `he went

> forward'. Ta. mun: in front, forward etc.

> > sub ( a prayer) : Ta. seppu: to utter, say etc.

> > mu-na-tum (he bought) ; Ta munna tuuvum : to cast in front and

> hence to bring forth

> >

> > 46.*iskur (Oh Iskur!)

> > tukul (the weapon): Ta. tukaL : to powder, smash etc

> > *en-lil-li ma-an-si (Enlil has given to me) . Ta. Enliillee maan

> sii Ta. sii, ii : to give. Ma-an: Ta. em-aan : to me , This occur

in

> Su,. as he-ma etc.

> >

> > 47. a-tah-mu (my support) : Ta. aa.taavu> aa.taravu: the giving

> (taa, taravu) of strength(aa, aal)

> > he-me( be thou): Ta. emme, emma: my , towards me.

> >

> > 48. erim ( An army) . Ta .eri.mu : those who burn and destroy.

Ta.

> eri: fire, to burn and scorch

> > mu-na-sug (he led out)` Ta. munna uukku : led forward. Sug=suugu>

> Ta. uukku : to urge forward.

> > *utu-he-gal (Utu-he-gal)

> >

> > 49. nitah-kal-ka (the might man) UKU.GAN-im-mi-si (smote)

> >

> > 50. sagub-bi (those lieutinants). u(d)-ba (on that day) ti-ri-ga-

a-

> an (Titigan)

> >

> > 51. lugal-gu-ti-um-(KI) (King of gutium)

> >

> > as-a-ni (solitary) > Ta. asaa.nee : already obsolete in Tamil but

> retained in Rigkrit as `asninee" etc.

> > gir-ba-da-an-kar(fled away) ; Ta. kiir paddaan kaar > kaar.paddan

> kiir: with his legs( kiir) he became unavailable ( kaar paddaan )