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By Horacio Fco. Arganis J.

 

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>Krishnas's times

>Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:26:05 -0000

>

>THE EPOC OF MABHABHARATA AND BHAGAVATA PURANA

>By Horacio Fco. Arganis J. Graduate Student in Linguistic and

>Literature in U A de C.

>

>"One of the earliest estimates of the date of the Vedas was at once

>among the most scientific. In 1790, the Scottish mathematician John

>Playfair demonstrated that the starting-date of the astronomical

>observations recorded in the tables still in use among Hindu

>astrologers (of which three copies had reached Europe between 1687

>and 1787) had to be 4300 BC.3 His proposal was dismissed as absurd by

>some, but it was not refuted by any scientist. Playfair's judicious

>use of astronomy was countered by John Bentley with a Scriptural

>argument which we now must consider invalid. In 1825, Bentley

>objected: "By his [= Playfair's] attempt to uphold the antiquity of

>Hindu books against absolute (biblical) facts, he thereby supports

>all those horrid abuses and impositions found in them, under the

>pretended sanction of antiquity. Nay, his aim goes still deeper, for

>by the same means he endeavours to overturn the Mosaic account, and

>sap the very foundation of our religion: for if we are to believe in

>the antiquity of Hindu books, as he would wish us, then the Mosaic

>account is all a fable, or a fiction."4 "we find that Bentley

>has "proven" that Krishna was born on 7 August in AD 600 (the most

>conservative estimate elsewhere is the 9th century BC), and on

>p.158ff., that Varaha Mihira (AD 510-587) was a contemporary of the

>Moghul emperor Akbar (r.1556-1605).

>Before that, Sir Williams Johns and others formulated the borrowing

>theory that holds that Krishna and his history, as the Bhâgavata and

>Visnu puranas, etc, were a derived from Christianity. Therefore, all

>the texts that tried on him, for logical consequence were of a period

>After Dominus.

>Before a rigorous observation the discovery of a ephistemological

>problem is noticed, denominated, by the funder of scientific methode

>philosopher, Francis Bacon, íldolus specus or cavern idols. This

>refers that dueto prejudices of temperament, character, personal

>likes, religious, ethnocentric, social and political factors that had

>contaminated the investigations on the work in question. In other

>words, these erudites tend to lock in their own fossilization of

>suppositions and they deformed the reality from the study phenomenon,

>when accommodating it to their paradigm, for the suppression of

>everything that could contradict them. In fact, this ídolus-specus

>type is applied to the racial, national prejudices and all type of

>subjective attitudes, as those that have an incompatibility with the

>search of new discoveries and vehement adherence to certain paradigm.

>Nevertheless, the first thing that is demanded when one attempts an

>approach in the scientific investigation, it is the suspension of all

>the previous trials. That is to say the phenomenical application of

>the epoje; what means, momentarily to suspend any previous trial and

>to proceed from zero to the examinación of the object, and this way

>to discover the reality of such a phenomenon. Otherwise, the

>psychological studies of perception demonstrate, that among more

>there is demarcation toward a posture, she/he gets lost the capacity

>to evaluate the evidences that document that this could be missed

>objectively.

>

>1.2 Dataciones

>"The erudites have been unable to arrive to a concerning clear

>consent to the date of the Bhâgavatam."

>

>XIII d. C. H.H. Wilson and Colebroock

>XI d. C. Dasgupta

>IX-X d. C. Sharma, Buitenen, etc. goes

>IX d. C. Ingalls, Hopkins, Pargiter etc.

>VI d. C. Eliade, Hazra, etc.

>IV-V d. C. Tagore, Krisnamurti

>III d. C. Diksitah

>IV-V to. C. Hudson.

>X-IX to. C. Vyas.

>XII-XIII to. C. Gyani.

>XX to. C. Bhaktivinoda

>XXX to. C Ghokale

>L B. C. Vartak

>

>Another problem that sustains this investigation is that when

>revising the significant suppositions that the erudites have

>presented on the one dated of the Bhâgavatam, she/he is discovered

>that: The English critics Colebrook and Wilson dated it for the XIII

>A. D ., under the apparent indication that the work in the 12º Canto

>gives a chronology where it points out that of the character, that

>gives beginning and end to the work, king Pariksit, until king

>Chandragupta Maurya, 1250 years would pass. Then, of there until

>kings Andhras. Reason that, the work had to be from a later time to

>these figures.

>This registration has its base in the reference that gives the Greek

>historian Meghastenes in the s. IV B. C, in their IndiKA work, about

>king Sandrakutus, which was identified with king Chandragupta Maurya.

>This was the apparent Stone of Rosetta by which was reformulated the

>whole chronology of the history of the India. Then it was intended

>that the grandson, king Asoka Maurya, was the Asoka Buddhist convert

>that made councils and he financed the expansion of budhims doctrine,

>to who was dated in the 200 B. C. Therefore, the battle of the

>Mahabhâtara had to have been for the X B. C.

>The problem with that proposal is that Meghastenes didn't make

>mention of Chanakya, king Chandragupta Maurya's minister, neither

>Chanakya mentions in his works to the Greeks as Alejandro or

>Meghastenes, the last one, who visited the court of Sandrakutus.

>Joining this that, the kings that preceded and succesed to the

>Sandrakutus, that the Greek historian mentions, they are: Xandramas

>and Sandrocyptus. Which don't coincide with Nanda and Bindusar or

>Asoka, whose were those of Chandragupta Maurya. The only equivalence,

>phonologically acceptable, it is the relationship among those of king

>Chandragupta-Gupta I: Chamdramas - Xandramas, and Samudragupta -

>Sandrocyptus. For what such a discovery leads to modify the dates.

>Since these discoveries, presented in the University of New Brunswick

>in Canada for Prasada Gokhale, insinuate that Chandragupta Maurya

>lived for the 1534 B. C., and king Chandragupta I Gupta in the 325 B.

>C., when he confronted Great Alejandro's forces. Also, the Buddhist

>Asoka was a king of Kashmir and not emperor Maurya's Asoka grandson.

>This is significant because it justifies this investigation, since it

>coincides with the historical recounts that Srimad-Bhâgavatam

>describes itself.

>Dr. Prasada Gokhale, he had put many literary and astronomical

>evidences showing that Lord Buddha did not lived in the 550 BC. but

>1800 B. C. Jiva Goswami in his Krsna Sandharbha Anuccheda 24

>wrote: "Lord Buddha appears when two thousand years of the Kali age

>have passed". Before of the misidentification between the Sandracutus

>mentioned by the Greek historian Maghastenes with Chandrgupta Maurya

>by Sir William Jones, even Jones like all Indian historians accept

>two things: Lord Buddha was around 1000 BC and Shankara live in the

>440 BC. The Rajatarangini , a history text of Kashmir by Kalhana

>record how the Ashoka of the Gonanda dynasty embracing the faith of

>Gotama Buddha, etc. He was a ahimsa -peaceful ruler on the conversion

>of Buddhism living in 1448-1400 BC. But He was not the Maurya Ashoka,

>because, Murya king is know be respectful and supportive of Brahmanas

>and Sharamanas, in the Girnar rock edits and in a book from Him,

>where He open with the pranams to King Prithu, Lord Rama, Yudhsitira,

>etc. All vaisnavas kings from the past mentioned in the Bhâgavatam.

>

>10.5.2 XIV-XV B. C. (1) among the indications of the religious

>context of the Bhâgavatam it has a relative frequency to the rig-

>vedic pateon, where are figure the cult to the gods Mitra, Varuna and

>Indra. For that that another possible fact, is the discovery of a

>testimony in the cuneiform characters of the clay splints, in the

>corresponding to the Kingdom of Hitita Asia, 1380 B. C. In this

>document the king hitita Subiluliuma and the king mitano Mattiuza,

>son of Dusratta, they make a pact, where the last one invokes their

>gods like witness and he makes a direct allusion to Mitra, Varuna and

>Indra. According to the experts, during the XIV and XV centuries B.

>C., the kings of Mitani took similar names in general to the Sanskrit

>one as they corroborate it the files of the correspondence of the

>Egyptian city Amarna and Bogas Keui, the capital of the Hititas. This

>suggests the validity of the religious context that denotes the work

>in study.

>It has been observed that through the Bhâgavatam, It is distinguished

>the bovine cattle raising motive, the use of oxen's carts, etc. Now,

>S. Piggot reports: "This... it is very significant in view that they

>have been representations of oxen yoked to the plow that they date of

>the Primitive Dynastic Period of Súmer and of the third Dynasty of

>Egypt; in those representations the yoke doesn't appear, but leave to

>the oxen yoked to the plow by means of suspenders that fellows take

>in the horns. Another similar representation, of origin kassita and

>in Mesopotamia, it shows the same particularity, and it is also

>noticed that the oxen have hump, characteristic of the race

>indostane... Whichever it is the meaning of this fact it is

>interesting to notice that the kassitas, possible members of the Indo-

>European linguistic group, used in the century xv B. c. the same

>method of traction of the plow that the Aryans used in the India.

>Another factor of economic type that registers the work in study is

>the use of the horse and the coaches. In the treaty of Kikkuli,

>among Boghaz Keui's documents, it describes in technical terms a

>manual on the careers of cars, where it uses similar words to the

>Sanskrit to point out the number of turns around the hint. Finishing

>with this category, another discovery that allows to come closer to

>the one dated in connection with this context, was in the south of

>Russia, by the middle of the time of XV Kubán to the XX one B. C. In

>the tomb of Maikop, where was discovered a silver bowl with

>representations of the horses of Przewalski. The combined value of

>the indications of this category is of (13.9%).

>10.5.4 the Motive of the Universal Flood (3). Inside literature of

>the India, Mahâbhârata and before Satapatha Brahmana, they relate

>that the God Visnu encarnate as a fish and inspired king Satyavrata

>Manu to join the Vedas, the seven rishis and the seeds of all species

>and to put them in an ark. Nevertheless, the better known narration

>in the West on this topic is in the Hebrew literature, in the portion

>of the Genesis on the story of Noé's Ark. The exegeticals has

>classified two versions with certain divergences. One is denominated

>the Yahuistic and the other Elohinistic. According to the

>semitologis, this text harbored several revisions, but its original

>content goes back to the XIV one B. C.However, several experts have

>tried to discover the historical bases of the motive. The Iranian

>Zend Avesta provides another story of the legend in the one which,

>the god Ahuramazda ordered Yima the patriarch, to open a cave and to

>save to the animals and plants from flood. The work was written in

>cow leather by Zoroastre, to who has been dated in different periods

>from LXXX goes to X century B. C.In the Epic poem of Gilgamés s.

>XX B. C., a similar story exists, that has been considered the

>intertextual base of the Hebrew story, where the main character

>Utnapistim, carried out the same trip. In their investigation on the

>epic of Ziusudra from Sumerian literature, Robert M. Best has

>concluded that the great flood corresponded to the overflow of the

>river Eufrates for the torrential rains in the century XXIX B. C. The

>main character who was governor of the state of Shuruppak, navigated

>in similar form to his Jewish homologous, to save to the species,

>etc. That "it would have served of inspiration to the narrators of

>the Flood." In the Egypt, according to the Romans historians as

>Eusebio s. I B. C., Marcelino IV d. C., and the Arabs as Ibn Batuta

>and Firazabadimasudi, etc., in the pyramids, there were inscriptions

>in those mentions to the Flood, those date of the century XXVII-XXX

>B. C.The father of the history China, Ma s. II B. C., in their

>treaty the begins with a story of Yu, who was a king that saved the

>residents of the Flood, before the first dynasties XXIX B. C. Other

>investigators have proposed different hypothesis to explain the

>catastrophe that gave origin to that the survivors transmitted by

>means of epic poems and myths. William Ryan and Walter Pitman intend

>that the phenomenon took place some LVI B. C.Edith and Alexander

>Toolamn sustain a date of 10, 000 B. C., under the hypothesis that

>seven fragments of a comet created the cataclysm in the Indian Ocean.

>A near datation has been sustained by experts as D. S. Allan, B.

>Delair and Paúl Violette, under other geologic causes. This allows to

>infer that independently in which culture this Flood motive arose and

>then it already passed to the others, this became a topic that it

>affected the literature of the Old World in a remote period and it

>was reflected in the study work. The percentage index inside these

>reports points out a (11.1%).

>

>10.5.5 Bhû-Mândala (4). The word mandala means the good fortune.

>However, the mandalas are diagrams that evoke the micro and

>macrocosmos. In summary, it can report that the last studies on the

>cosmographic pattern that contains the work in study, have brought to

>the light that such diagram of circles and oceans with the mount in

>form of inverted cone, with the base up and the point below, contains

>implicit four meanings.

>A) A planisferic map polar of the earth.

>B) A map of the orbits of the planets of the solar system.

>C) The center of the well-known diagram as Jambudvipa, exhibits

>a map of the region of central Asia and south.

>D) The celestial supraterrenals regions

>

>With respect to these data it must be informed that among the

>meanings, the (A) it shows to the Monte Meru or Sumero like the north

>pole, what suggests the axis whose rotation is in an inverted conical

>way. The dvipas is the continents together with the seven seas. In

>the (B) the rings together with their oceans coincide with the orbits

>of the Earth, the Moon, Mars, Saturn and Uranus. Since in that time

>it was ignored Neptune and Pluto. The © it indicates that Meru

>mount coincides with the Pamirs Monts of Central Asia, the areas of

>the south are identified, from Siberia to China and India, together

>with their rivers and mountains. Lastly the (D), it describes the

>supraterrenals regions where the devas and upadevas, the demigods and

>other superhumans races of this folklore live.

>Recapturing the words of the experts as Eliade again: "The symbolism

>of the Pilar of the world is family, also, in the evolved cultures:

>Egypt, India (for example, the Rig Veda, X, 89, 4; etc.) China,

>Greece, Mesopotamia, Among the Babylonians."

>This becomes another indicative factor, because through these

>cultures one can observe that mention model was applicable in the

>archaic societies of the Old World that date from 3000 to 2000 B. C.

>The presence of a similar conception is even denoted in some American

>societies. What allows to infer that such model could date of one

>period previous to when the man passed from Asia to America in the

>Glacial Era, as had been insinuate from Gorigio of Santillana and

>Hertha von Dechend: "A `archaic ' culture that antedates all the old

>civilizations that we know at the moment, including those of Babylon,

>China and India... they possessed a sophisticated and scientific

>understanding of astronomy expressed in terms that we denominate

>mythology, because we don't understand it." Or as proposes G.

>Betti "Such a time seems that it can be made go back at least forty

>centuries before Christ to a town of Central Asía that reached a very

>high civilization degree regarding all the other ones whose knowledge

>spread for all Asia, Europe and Egypt and, with a lot of probability,

>also for Mesoamérica. From the astronomy of this town it spends to

>the Egyptian astronomy and that of the India, thirty centuries before

>Christ." Wherever that had been the origin of such a cosmogonic

>conception, the significant of this fact is the historical value,

>which was in validity in an early era and up to now it has been able

>to decode. Therfore its correspondence, as it was already indicated,

>non concomita to the medieval time, like IX A. D. Apart from the

>towns already mentioned, other archaic examples of a analogus

>conception with Bhu-mándala would be the Iranian Zoroastrianes, the

>Mongolians, the Klamucks and the Buryast of Siberia, the Turkish

>tribes of the south, those of Altai Tatars, the tribes of the North

>Africa. The registration that mark these evidences among the other

>categories corresponds to a (16.7%).

>

> 10.5.6 S. XX-XVI B. C. W. J. Wilkins in the IX A. D.

>indicated: "Particularly the Sarasvati should have been associated

>with the reputation of sanctity that is attributed to the whole

>called region Brahmavartta (northwest) that exists... located next to

>the part west of the Juma (Yamuna). The Sarasvati seems to have been

>for the first Hindus that the Ganges (...) it is for their

>descendants." In 1950, Piggot pointed out: "In the Sind it has been

>carried out extensive field work, and we probably have a quite

>complete idea of the distribution of the establishments in that

>region… it Seems probable that an intense field work in the Punjab

>would take out to the light many other places, besides the overdrafts;

>… For the east of the Indo, in the State of Bahwalpur and along the

>bed, now dry, of the river Ghaggar, the Sarasvati of the old Indian

>literature, is a dozen of places that they were other so many

>villages or populations that, like it seems to indicate it its

>position, they would be politically inside the jurisdiction of the

>ruler of Harappa, and it can that they are taken as proof of the

>existence of a northern Kingdom while waiting for that even not sink

>to them other places overdrafts in the Punjab."

>Inside of all the rivers mentioned in Rig veda, it stands out the

>Sarasvati or Harahwati of the Zend Avesta. It has been discovered

>that this river changed its course at least four times and originally

>it flowed toward the sea through what today is known as Rajasthán, of

>there she/he ran toward the occident. This has been identified with

>the modern Syr–Darya that unites to the Aral sea in the north. At

>the moment a stream that flows in Badarika in the Himalayas, and

>another short stream in the desert of RajasthAn exists. Because the

>geologic studies have found that it runs in underground form.

>Previously it also flowed toward the east and it met with the Yamuna

>and the Ganges in the Trivedi in Prayaga near Benares in U.T. For

>twenty-four years, began a search and the geologic studies show that

>approximately in the 3800 B. C., the north of the India was a green

>area with big rivers like the Sindhu, the Ganges, the Yamuna and the

>Sarasvati together with the Drisadvati. Which fed of the Sutlej and

>the Yamuna. This allowed the current desert of Tahr, to not create a

>natural division between the occident of India and the cultures of

>the Middle East. According to the studies, a little before the battle

>of the Mahâbhârata, the Yamuna had changed its course and it didn't

>flow more toward the Sarasvati. For what is described in those dates

>of Mahabhatata: "Their following stop was Prayaga, the sacred place

>where the yellow waters of the Ganges unite with those blued of the

>Yamuna. The river Sarasvati gets lost in this place, uniting at both

>previous:..." But toward the occident, it is narrated in the

>pilgrimage that made Balarama, as well as The Bhâgavatam describes it

>in connection with Vidura and the same character brother of Krishna.

>Using the satellite scanners and with the help of geologic studies,

>the investigators from India, brought to the light the bed. According

>to the obtained results, this river dried off at least 2000 B.

>C.Now four specialists, Baldeo Sahai of the ISRO, archaeologist S.

>Kalyan Raman, the glacialogíst Y. K. Puri and the hidrólogist Madhav

>Chitle are taken charge to continue the investigation and to trace

>the course of this river. The significant of this discovery is, as it

>was already indicated in the chapter on the internal evidence, the

>Sarasvati tend to be located in the third place of those referred in

>the work in study. Also that you can trace their course flowing

>without drought, just as was confirm by discoveries. This allows to

>infer that the work Bhagavatam leans to date previous to the

>drought.

>Inside this same category the Polar star can notice, like was

>observes along the internal evidence, this star figures in a

>considerable percentage inside the context of some parts of the

>Bhâgavatam. On the other hand, the hypothesis poschristiam that

>fixes the text for the IX century or a little before, it confronts

>the following thing: "due to the lack of appropriate brilliant stars,

>it would seem that there was not a prominent polar star some

>centuries ago from 1200 B. C., [until the 1400 d. C]." This way, the

>investigators suspect that in the passages of the text

>Grihyasûtras: "they seem to confirm the hypotheses of Jacobi: in the

>matrimonial ceremony, when the newly-weds arrive at their new

>residence, they remain sat down in silence on the skin of a bull

>until the stars appear in whose moment the husband teaches to the

>woman the polar star saying him: `That you are as constant as her and

>happy in my house '. In Sanskrit, the star's name is dhruva

>that `means ', constant `it signs '. Their invariable appearance,

>always in the same place of the sky, it took as symbol of the

>feminine fidelity, but in our days the polar star grieves

>distinguishes for that is not of to be believed that could take as

>symbol. And it happens that 2,000 years ago it was so far from the

>pole that went by the sky like many other and it could not be spoken

>of their immobility. Therefore, the Grihyasûtras should have been

>referred to another more brilliant star that could have been near the

>celestial, fixed pole, a long time ago. And Alfa Draconis was in that

>case in the first half of the third millennium before Christ." This

>fact is suggestive, because according to the theory of procession of

>the equinoxes, it settles down that the rotation of the terrestrial

>axis moves slowly in a conical path centered on the north pole of the

>ecliptic or the solar orbit. To the present moment, the revolving

>axis is near to the star Polaris. However, in the last 3400 years it

>was not in the north pole. The last time that a star Polar notable

>was near the 2600 B. C., when Tuban (Alpha Draconis) it was near to

>the north pole. Because same in the 1200 B. C., the polar axis

>pointed between the stars Beta Ursae Minorus and Kappa Draconis; and

>until the present moment, one can not affirm that the references

>mention two stars for the pole. This fact is denotative, because it

>allows to infer that the author of the text in study who speaks of a

>fixed Polar star that would remain eternally as the center where they

>would rotate all the stars of the cosmos, he used a concept

>observable in a remote age. Inside this variable, the relative

>frequency of this category is (2.8%).

>10.5.7 the Era of Mahâbhârata (7). On these discoveries it can make

>an appointment to Romila Thopar: "The incidents that relates the epic

>poetry can be accepted as historically valid if they can be evidences

>to support them.This is what happens to some from the relative

>excavations to this period. For example in Hastinapura... excavations

>were made, and it was found that a part of its was desolated... in an

>overflow of the Ganges. In the Puranas it is said that incident took

>place in the reign of the king's seventh successor [Pariksit] that

>governed immediately in Hastinapura after the war [of Kuruksetra]...

>Incidentally, the tests of the flood appear in the level where the

>culture of the Ceramic of Gray finishes in Hastinapura." According to

>the indologist, the events of the Mahâbhârata took place in the Era

>of Iron of the Civilization of the Ganges. Some archaeologists like

>D. P. Agrawal proposes an age from the X to the IX B. C. But other,

>as Jim G. Shaffer, estimates an age of the XXV one to. C.This is

>sustained with the ruins of Kaushumbi, the one that worked as capital

>when Delhi was flooded whose structures resemble each other to the

>constructions of Harappa. In the decade of the 60's, Indigolist

>Gangulli discovered artefacts in Kuruksetra that corroborate the

>authenticity of the war that is mentioned in Mahabhâbhârata.

>In 1986, S. R. directed a commission of archaeologists, whose after

>applying the techniques characteristic of the their branch under the

>Arabic Ocean, they gave as fruit the rediscovery of the ruins of

>Dwaraka, the capital of the hero's Kingdom, in the costs of the

>current Dwaraka in Gujarata. Among the objects are distinguished a

>brass bell, iron nails, vessels of mud, similar to the style of the

>brass age in other places, and ruins of the walls from was the fort

>described in the Purana in analysis. They also carried out

>excavations in other near areas as Bet Dwaraka or Sankotora, arriving

>to satisfactory results. The official dataciones on this places went

>of XV to XVI one B. C. These dates woke up the scepticism of other

>experts as R. Rajaram, who proposes that it is another called city

>Dwaraka. However, until the present has not been discovered a

>historical reference that indicates such supposition. For what other

>experts sustain that if there is an identification among the

>discoveries like Andrew Rasanen indicated: "The information on the

>recent excavations of Dwaraka in particular is a new addition to the

>academic cellar." Well, the datación of the XV one to the XVI one had

>been development under two premises:

>1) Rao in his report pointed out that the level of the sea in

>other parts of the world, including the Bahamas, it goes up a height

>60 meters in 10,000 years, and Dwaraka it was posing on 10 meters

>deep.

>2) The results of the analysis of Termoluminiscency of Bet

>Dwaraka's ceramic allow to estimate a similar age.

>However, the vestige of the stamp or mudra of this place, tend to be

>closet similarity to those of Mohenjo daro. Also, one table whose

>motive is the child Krishna found in Harappa, whose age is of 2600 B.

>C., it allows to infer that Dwaraka dates of a previous date. This

>corroborates it the author of the URL on the topic, when he mention

>the discoveries of the astronomy on the hero's birth: "Lord Krishna

>was born to the midle night Julio's Friday 27 in the 3112 B. C. This

>date and the time has been calculated by the astronomers based on the

>planetary position on the day registered by the Wise Vyasa." Although

>this calculation is not the last datación, like it will be presented

>in the following category of this variable; other investigators as P.

>Gokhale supposes: "The ruins of the submerged city of Dwaraka

>discovered by the Dr. S. R. Rao and his group in 1985 (Archeological

>Unit Marinates) along the coast of Gujarat, it provides authenticity

>of the existence of the civilization of the Mahâbhârata c. 3000 B.

>C." The value that you/they already add the vestiges described inside

>this category is of (5.6%) in that that regarding the data of this

>variable.

>10.5.8 beginning of Kali yuga (7). The historian Juan of Dios

>Gonzales J., indicates: "The Christian chose Christ's birth like the

>beginning of a new era; the Muslims, the escape of Mohammed from Meca

>(Hégira). Starting from these [religious] events. Each civilization

>begins to count the years." In similar form, Teresa. E. Rohde reports

>that for the historians, the Hindus marked the beginning of an

>calendaric era called Kali-yuga "starting from the death of Krishna."

>What The Bhâgavatam relates when: "Lord Visnu... well-known as

>Krishna... He ascended to the spiritual sky, Kali entered in this

>world, and people began to take pleasure in the sinful acts." For

>that the determination of the beginning of this era, is a key hint to

>approach to the possible datación of the text in study. Because this

>date will allow to clarify the events like the Battle of the

>Mahâbharata, and the hero's birth and the period of the Gangetic

>Culture .

>The specialists have proposed three possible dataciones:

>to) The era of Kali began in the 900 or 1000 B. C. This date has been

>broadly accepted by the specialists, like working an useful tool for

>numerous investigations.

>b) The erudites of V d. C.: Varaha Mihira, Vriddha Garga and

>Kalhana, in base of astronomical calculations, proposed that the

>taking of king Yudhistira, after the Battle of Kuruksetra, was to 653

>years of the era of Kali. This suggests the 2526 B. C. Nevertheless

>that their proposal was an advanced tentative for his time, it has

>been objected together with the following one, for approaches that

>will be explained in the later lines.

>c) The era of Kali began officially when Krishna disappeared of the

>planet in the 3102 B. C. For what the battle of the Mahâbhârata had

>to be a little before this period. This was computed in the V. A. D.

>for astronomer Aryabhatta and sustained later by Bháskara. However,

>this date has received an emotional underestimate from the part of

>the circles of erudites, especially who resist to the revision of

>the müellerane model dates . Inside this oscillation of dates, the

>proposition (a) it works as work tool, although it tend to be

>disintegrate before with the discoveries mentioned. Because as it was

>already explained in the justification, it is based on the

>supposition of 12º Canto, that predicts a chronology where it is

>pointed out that of king Pariksit until king Chandragupta Maurya,

>about 1250 years would pass. And then the Greek historian's

>registration Meghastenes in the s. IV B. C, in his Indika work, on

>king Sandrakutus, which was identified with king Chandragupta Maurya.

>Therefore the battle of the Mahabhâtara had to have been for the X B.

>C. Also, such a conjecture loses credibility before the calculations

>astronomical overdrafts in the last decades. The (b), although it

>differs of the © in the datación of the period of the Battle of

>Kuruksetra, which opened the way to king Yudhistira's coronation,

>this doesn't disagreed in their astronomical calculations with the

>proposal © of the Kali-yuga beginning. Also that evidences don't

>exist in the texts, that this events had happened to 600 years after

>the mentioned era. With respect to the proposition ©, it was

>rejected by the erudites under the supposition pointed out in the

>justification, that Aryabhatta plagiarized his data of the Greek

>astronomy of Tolomeo. That which has also been doubtful. Adding that

>that R. L. Thompson has demonstrated that the arguments of those that

>sustain such a plagiarism, suffer of serious methodological lacks;

>and this investigator has exposed as Aryabhatta it arrived to those

>calculations for means characteristic of his culture. Jointly, other

>independent investigators have arrived to a similar datación through

>astronomical computations, with more recent calculation systems,

>discarding Waerden who affirmed: "According to the modern

>calculations, no conjunction took place in the 3102 B. C."

>One of the first works that corroborated the meeting of the planets

>in Kali Yuga's star in the mentioned date, was of astronomers Jean-

>Sylvain Bailly and John Playfair in 1790. Another of the tentatives

>to locate the stellar figures that are mentioned in the texts, was

>the work carried out by K. Srinivasa Raghavan and their team in

>1979, using the Vedanga Jotysha, verified the event in the 3104 B.

>C. and the Bharatas battle in the 3138 B. C. Shiram Sathe has

>evaluated the counts of several experts and they tend to coincide

>with the 3102 B. C., like date limit. A brief variation has been

>obtained by K. N. Partanik denoting October 16 for the Battle of the

>Mahâbhârata 3138 B. C.Count Bijornstierna summarizes a calculation

>for the beginning from Kali to February 20 of the 3102 Bc .Starting

>from their investigations in India, Henry P. Stapp in 1994

>reported: "According to the same Vedic texts and to the traditional

>almanacs Panchangas of the India, these computations were registered

>at the beginning of the present time called Kali yuga, 5091 years

>behind." What suggests the 3097 B. C. Richard L. Thompson has

>calculated with the programs Duffet–Smith of astronomy, the positions

>of the planets and they coincide with brief variation to the

>registrations of the texts, dating February 18 of 3102 B. C. for the

>beginning of Kali yuga.

>This has been confirmed with another registration. The cycle of the

>constellation of the seven sages, the one which pass in 3600 years

>when Seven Rishis iniate travels all the lunar mansions, and the

>studies of J. E. Mitchiner suggests that this phenomenon began the

>6676 B. C. and it finished the 3076 B. C., that which is narrated in

>The Bhâgavatam: "When the constellation of the seven sages is passing

>through the lunar mansion Mabhâ, the era of Kali begins. This will

>last a thousand two hundred years of the devas."

>Another type of evidences that indicate these dates is the

>inscriptions of Pulakésisa II c. VIII AD. and other earlier ones ,

>they were found in Belgaum and Nidhapur, that point out the 3102 for

>the Battle of Kuruksetra. Likewise, the star Rohini or Aldebaran were

>in the localization that is described in the Purana in exam, when the

>hero Vásudeva was born, in the 3162 B. C., according to the program

>Sky Globe. The dependability of this program can vary for five years

>with an 1% average of error. Jointly, Heliodoro pointed out that

>Krishna lived hundred thirty eight generations of kings before

>Alejandro's time, to which the investigators attribute around of

>twenty years average for king, what suggests 2760 years, more 330

>B. C. = 3090 B. C.The sum of the vestiges inside this variable that

>sustains this datación, is (26.4%).

>To conclude with this brief report, in my thesis, we uses an full

>methodolgy applying to triagunlation to subject the body of evidence

>intern (geographical, chronological, astronomical, intertextuality,

>social, economic, philosophical, religious, political, language type)

>and external (documental, epigrafic, sculpture, numismaticts, and

>discoveries adjunts) on the Bhâgavata purana, to tests statistical of

>percentages and we discover that the weight of the evidence tend to

>sustain to remote antiquity, with the hope of opening new horizons in

>the search of more discoveries that they allow the advance of the

>knowledge. Nevertheless like I noticed in my thesis mentioning to

>Klostermaier:

>"While the older theory rested on exclusively philological arguments,

>the new theory includes astronomical, geological, mathematical and

>archaeological evidence. On the whole, the latter seems to rest on

>better foundations."

> And also to Max Planck who pointed out:

> "A new scientific truth doesn't triumph by means of the convincing

>of its opponents, making them see the light, but rather because this

>opponents end up dying and a new generation grows that familiarizes

>with it ."

>

>

>

 

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