Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 Sect and Disinformation .. The history of the Religion is reconstructed of the phenomenon of the sects. The better known examples are given in the Christendom. Jewish authors as Filo of Alexandria who enumerated the Jewish sects; and Joust of Tiberiades, contemporary of Jesus, he doesn't mention anything to the Christ, neither their followers; because so much the Jewish government as Roman, they pursued to death to all the related with the new sect. However, some specialists as the Dr. Kergsten have given through analysis, bases for a connection, of Jesus and John the Baptist with the sect Sceniam of Qumram. Other scholars sustain that references of Jesus exist in the rolls of the Dead Sea, calling him "Teacher of Justice, orthodox Teacher". Although the researcher Gringoire, by means of deep comparative analysis, weakens such a connection; but it is good to point out that in their translation of the Rolls, cap. XXIII, of the supposed codexes, Edmind S. Bordeux discovered white references of Jesus instructing his pupils. Another believing chronicer of the Judaism, Flabio Josephus (c. 37- 100?? A. D.) in one of their works, attributed to him, that which has been questioned his authorhood, said: "It existed a men called saint Jesus. Pilatus condemned him. From then on there is the present time the sect of the Christian it exists". But the specialists consider that such a mention is interpolated, being based in that such evidence it was not mentioned by none of the Christian apologists . Even Origens, openly declares that Josephus doesn't believe in Christ. Without a doubt, the it has existed the counter argument, that the apologist never had the necessity to lean on in the Jewish history, but in the classic philosophy for their defense. Because which it was appreciated in the Roman Empire. It is also correct that Origins affirm that Josephus, like Jews fundamentalist, didn't believe that Jesus was the Christ (Messiah). The Latin historians wrote in a derogatory way against the Christendom. Tacit (c. 65.155 A. D.) he mentions in their annals (15.44) to Christ crucified by Poncius Pilatus. Suetonius (c. 65-155 A.D.): "In Rome the Jews caused continuous interferences for command of Christ". He also mentioned more the Sect of the Christian in two references. Celsus (II A. D.), he defines Jesus like magician or bewitching, etc. This gave origin to the Apologists, among those that who has more than enough room, was Origins whose father has personal contact with Paulo of Tarso and other associated of Jesus, that they met Him in person, and the Origen ´s father died martyred. Origins wrote around 6000 works, like COUNTER CELSUS. Where he refutes the hipercriticism from the Roman bigoters philosophers against the Christianity. Tertulianus (c. 160-220 A. D.) he wrote a great number of works the other religions considering them heresies. Justin also stood out who attacked to Orfeus and his doctrine. It is interesting that the Roman Marcelinus had written on this internal phenomenon of the faithful ones: "Neither the beasts in their thirst of blood can be enraged so much among them as the Christian to their coreligionists". Clement of Alexandria notified the violent disputes among the faithful ones, and Celsus he affirmed that they were divided in many factions, because each individual wanted to have his own party. In the 187 D. C. Irineus it pointed out twenty varieties of the Christianity and for the 384 A. D. , Epiphany counted eighty sects. Irineus defended the right of Salvation: "Jesus Christ came to save to all those that are born again for God for his means, infants, children, adolescents and old". The author of the book DEDIKE, 90- 100 A. D. he affirmed the same thing. For that that before so much divisionism, Irineus is able to canonize the Four Gospels been worth up to now. All the other canons was considered apocryphal. They receive this name a considerable quantity from writings non recognized by the Church. Gospels are enumerated (biographies of Jesus) that some erudites point out that there are seventy; Epistles, Facts of the Apostles and Apocalypse... In the century III A. D., the philosopher Porphirius He was opposed: "Is the Christian faith based on what Jesus published, or in the ideas that his pupils forged in the generations that continued to his death? Also, emperor Juliano questioned that Jesus doesn't called to Himself God but rather their followers who assigned him the title were. In 1570 D. C. Mohame criticizes the Christian, pointing out that Jesus is a prophet; although he doesn't deny His immaculate conception from the virgin Mary". (Vid.. Das, Hare Krishna. Sect and Disinformation in Occult Vision. Not 9. Nov. 97). Concerning to the arguments of Mr. Hayyim ben Yehoshua, is important to notice that without doubt his work demands immense brilliants ideas; the rigor of his approach converts everything on evidences historical as invalidate. Because under such approach, you can reject the historicity of Buda, Krishna, Socrates, Plato and all historical figures (Abraham, Moses, Prabhupada). Therefore, the objective specialists don't accept such approach, those are classified inside f the hipercriticism. Any Jews She/he can to see that, with their hate reagent toward an aggression from the part of the Christian fundamentalists, they are falling in a recalcitrant fundamentalism, worse than the previous one. Therefore, their arguments are not very impressive. Because with those same ones the atheists attack the whole Religions. In other words, alone they are good to feed to the atheisticism. Hare Krishna das Priest of Radha Govinda Mandir And Graduate Student of U A de C. 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