Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Note: forwarded message attached. Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. "Bhakti Ananda Goswami" bhakti.eohn "Vrin Parker" vrnparker MURTIS OF ASCLEPIUS 2 Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:21:14 -0800 THE SUPREME GOD OF THE HELIOPOLITAN MONOTHEISTS LIKE SOCRATES AND PLATO WAS KOUROS HELIOS (APOLLO / GOPALA), WHO WAS WORSHIPED AT DELPHI WITH HIS ALTER-FORM AND 'OLDER BROTHER' KOUROS DIONYSOS. THE MAIN SANCTUARY AND LITURGICAL YEAR THERE WAS DIVIDED BETWEEN THEM. BOTH LED THE SACRED KYKLOS / CAKRA CIRCLE 'CHORUS' DANCE WITH THE KORAE COW-HERD MAIDENS, AND REVELED IN SINGING AND DANCING WITH THE KOUROI, THE COW HERD BOYS (THEIR EXPANSIONS). THEY WERE BOTH THE 'MEGHISTOS KOUROS' OR THE 'GREATEST OF YOUTHS'. HELIOS-CENTRIC SOCIAL ORDER REVOLVED AROUND YEARLY FRATERNAL AND SISTERLY SOCIAL RE-ENACTMENT OF THE ROMANTIC AND HEROIC EXPLOITS OF HELIOS AND DIONYSOS AND THEIR KORAE AND KOUROI GIRLFRIENDS AND BOYFRIENDS. FIRST AMONG THE KORE MAIDENS WAS RHODA, RADHA / ROSE, WHO WAS ALSO CALLED NYMPHIA MEANING VIRGIN OR LOTUS / PADME, AND ASTERIA MEANING STAR / TARA ! OF COURSE THESE ARE NAMES OF KRISHNA-VISHNU'S SHAKTI, AND OF MARY IN CATHOLIC BRIDAL MYSTICISM. MARY IS THE EVER MAIDEN KORE, VIRGINAL NYMPHIA, THE FLEUR-DE-LI IS HER SYMBOL (EARLIER IN EGYPT A REFLECTED WATER LILLY http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://cadets.lyon.free.fr/print-lys.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522FLEUR%2BDE%2BLI%2522%2BMARIE%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8 ). SHE IS THE MYSTICAL ROSE AND STELLA MARIS, THE 'STAR OF THE SEA'. AS THE MOTHER OF ASCLEPIUS SHE IS CORONIS OR HARINI. AS MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS / IASAS SHE IS NARI, ALSO CALLED MARIAM / NARAYANI. DIONYSOS WAS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH ASCLEPIUS, WHO WAS THE SECOND PERSON / ALTER-FORM OF HELIOS, INCARNATE AS HIS OWN SON...THE SAVIOR OF ALL THOSE SUBJECT TO BIRTH, DEATH, DISEASE AND OLD AGE. ASCLEPIUS WAS WORSHIPED IN THREE FORMS. HE WAS WORSHIPED IN A THERAMORPHIC SERPENT FORM AS HIS SACRED HEBREW / JEWISH AND EGYPTIAN SERAPH (SARPA IN SANSKRIT), AS AS HIS BEAUTIFUL MEGHISTOS KOUROS YOUTH FORM, AND AS HIS MATURE BEARDED 'JESUS' OR CARAKA THE GREAT PHYSICIAN FORM. IN INDIA, SRI BALADEVA IN HIS ANANTA SESHA NAGA SERPENT FORM IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AYUR VEDIC SCIENCE OF MEDICINE AND HIS HIDDEN INCARNATION AS THE WANDERING HEALER CARAKA ! IN THE MEDITERRANEAN REGION THE WORSHIP OF BALADEVA AS CARAKA (ASCLEPIUS) WAS EXTREMELY POPULAR. IN FACT, IT WAS THE SINGULARLY MOST IMPORTANT DEVOTIONAL CULTUS IN THE CENTURIES JUST BEFORE THE ADVENT OF JESUS CHRIST. WITHIN 100 YEARS OF THE LIFE OF JESUS (IASAS ASCLEPIUS...BALADEVA AS YASHAS), THE ANCIENT GREAT PHYSICIAN TRADITION HAD EVOLVED INTO CATHOLICISM. THE MAIN CENTER OF ASCLEPIUS WORSHIP AT THE SERAPEUM IN ALEXANDRIA EGYPT, BECAME THE MAIN CENTER OF JESUS-THE-SON-OF-GOD AND WORLD-SAVIOR THEOLOGY FOR THE EGYPTO-AFRICAN RITES OF CATHOLICISM. THE WORSHIP OF IASAS ASCLEPIUS (JESUS) IN HIS MATURE BEARDED FORM CONTINUED TO BE THE MOST PROMINENT, WITH HIS YOUTHFUL LOVER FORM PRESERVED MAINLY IN HIS BRIDAL MYSTICISM CULTS. THE YOUTHFUL MEGHISTOS KOUROS FORMS OF JESUS WERE FREQUENTLY DEPICTED IN A PASTORAL SETTING. HE WAS A COW HERDER OR SHEEP HERDER. THUS THE UNBEARDED 'GOOD SHEPHERD' AND THE BEARDED 'GREAT PHYSICIAN' TRADITIONS OF JESUS ARE THOSE OF BALADEVA GOPALA AND BALADEVA CARAKA RESPECTIVELY. AS THE COSMIC SACRIFICE WHO HAS RAISED THE DEAD AND RANSOMED THEM FROM HELL WITH HIS OWN LIFE, ASCLEPIUS IS THE HIEROPHANT MASTER JESUS OR BALADEVA AS THE ORIGINAL SPIRITUAL MASTER AND COSMIC PURUSHA OF THE RIG VEDIC PURUSHA SUKTA HYMN. BECAUSE THE YUPA CROSS, POST OR STAKE (AXIS MUNDI) OF HIS COSMIC INTERCESSORY SACRIFICE IS HIS ETERNAL EMPBLEM, HE IS CALLED YAGNA PURUSHA OR YUPA DHVAJA. THE YUPA OR INSTRUMENT OF HIS INTERCESSORY SELF-SACRIFICE IS THE EMBLEM OR HERALDIC DEVISE OF HIS GIFT OF UNIVERSAL SALVATION. http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/fjust/Rome/asc10-12.jpg ASCLEPIUS KOUROS (BEAUTIFUL YOUTHFUL 'LOVER' FORM) http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/fjust/Rome/asc10-15.jpg http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/fjust/Asclepius.htm Ancient Rome: Images and Pictures photos by Prof. Felix Just, S.J. - Loyola Marymount University Rome: Main Page Arch of Constantine Colisseum Roman Forum Ostia Herculaneum FJ's Homepage Asclepius Images/Sites Imperial Fora Tiber River Other Rome Sites Pompeii Statues and Temples of Asclepius, the Ancient Roman Healing God (click on any picture below to see a larger image) Note: New Statue in #8a-f below Small Asclepius -- Vatican Museum, Braccio Chiaromonti, section 50, #12 #1 #2 #3 #4#1 - Small Asclepius statue (on left) in Vatican Museum, Braccio Chiaromonti, section 50, #12. #2 - Closer view of same statue; note the snake wraps up the staff counter-clockwise here. #3 - Same; note the round object (?) in the left hand; note also the long hair and rather old-looking face. #4 - Close-up of the inscription on the base of same statue. Medium-Sized Asclepius -- Vatican Museum, Braccio Chiaromonti, section 24, #5 #5 #6 #7 #8#5 - Medium-sized statue (on right) of bearded Asclepius -- Vatican Museum, Braccio Chiaromonti, section 24, #5. #6 - Closer view (the marble base is unrelated to the statue). #7 - Close-up of the face; note slightly younger face than the statue of photos # 1-4 above. #8 - Close-up side view of head; note also the long curly hair and headband. NOTE: Photos #5-8 above were taken in March 1994. By June 1999 this statue and base had been replaced by a different statue of Asclepius and a new pedestal that does have inscription dedicated to Asclepius (photos #8a-f below): #8a #8b #8c #8d #8e #8f Large Asclepius -- Museo Archeologico Nazionale, Naples; originally on Tiber Island, Rome #9 #10 #11 #12 #13#9 - Large statue of a bearded Asclepius; now in the Museo Archeologico Nazionale, Naples; originally on the Tiber Island, Rome. #10 - Full-body view; in March 1994 this statue was on a pallette in a temporary corner spot during museum renovations. #11 - Close-up of the head; note again the curly hair and head-band, and the slightly younger face than the two statues above. #12 - Close-up of the snake heading up the staff; note it does not circle the staff here. #13 - Two busts of unidentified gods, possibly Asclepius -- Museo Archeologico Nazionale, Naples. Large Beardless Asclepius -- Vatican Museum, Braccio Nuovo, # 17 #14 #15 #16 #17 #18 #14 - Placement of the large Asclepius statue in the "Braccio Nuovo" hallway of the Vatican Museum. #15 - Same statue; note the young, beardless face in contrast to most other surviving statues showing a bearded Asclepius. #16 - Same statue; note the sandals and beehive-like object at the feet, similar to the statue of Asclepius in Naples (#9-12 above). #17 - Close-up of the snake; note it is larger and freer from the staff than most other Asclepius statues. #18 - Close-up of the upper body and face; note the toga folds very similar to the Naples statue (#9-12 above). Fontana d'Esculapio in the Borghese Gardens, Rome #19 #20 #21 #22#19 - The Fountain of Asclepius, with an ancient Roman Asclepius statue -- Viale Washington, Borghese Gardens, Rome. #20 - Close-up of the second-century Roman Asclepius statue in the Fontana d'Esculapio. #21 - Same; note the badly damaged snake. #22 - Nearby sign-post at the top of the modern "Viale Esculapio" -- Borghese Gardens, Rome Asclepius Temple Replica in the Borghese Gardens, Rome #23 #24 #25 #26 #27#23 -19th century replica of a Temple and statue of Asclepius; on the main pond in the Borghese Gardens, Rome. #24 - Closer view of the same temple and statue. #25 - Close-up of the frieze; seems to depict the legend of the serpent's arrival in Rome. #26 - Even closer view (as close as my 35/200 telephoto lens could reach across the pond). #27 - View of the back of the statue. Rome: Main Page Arch of Constantine Colisseum Roman Forum Ostia Herculaneum FJ's Homepage Asclepius Images/Sites Imperial Fora Tiber River Other Rome Sites Pompeii Questions, Comments, Suggestions? E-mail me at fjust (AT) lmu (DOT) edu This page was last updated on 1/27/02 1999-2001 by Felix Just, S.J. 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