Bhagavad Ramanuja's exposition of the Universal Vedic Philosophy is the "superset of all" that accommodates all the philosophies as presented by respective Acharyas.

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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

 

 

Priya Sriman Shiva !

 

Due to the blessings of our Acharya it is Nice that we have tried

to understand the concepts.

 

However, there is one more irk in the statement " so all things

exist within god's soul ". This is wrong. All things have Him as the soul.

None of the things are made of His soul. He is the soul to all of them.

 

He is the controller of all. He is the supreme controller, and the

cause of all causes. He pervades throughout inside everything and also outside

every thing. He is the Super soul to the souls and also to the Nature. He is

with infinite Knowledge, unlimited Power, infinite strength etc., and many many

such auspicious qualities.

 

The statement "...was the imagination of God" is also wrong. We

even don't know our imaginations how come we know His imagination, does He need

to imagine? Is there any evidence for this. It was said that, by His mere

simple divine wish due to His infinite mercy, this much whole Universe was

created so effortlessly.

 

Also the statement " As individuals we partake of the cognizant

aspect of God's soul..." is also wrong. He is the inner fundamental support and

total controller of the soul(Ji:va). Soul is cognizant by the virtue of His

presence and soul(Jiva) has nothing to do with His soul, as there is no such

evidence in any of our original Vedic revelations.

 

Bhagavad Ramanuja's exposition of the Universal Vedic Philosophy

is the "superset of all" that accommodates all the philosophies as presented by

respective Acharyas. Hence, it is also called as "Pu:rna Mi:ma:msa". All Top

Acharyas have realised the actual truth and there is no controversy or anything

as such among their philosophies. They all have accepted Vedic path only and

followed the Vedic injunctions strictly according to the ancient perennial

tradition. They have conducted a number of Yagnas, Pujas, consecrations etc.,

all according to the A:gamas and the Vedic injunctions. They all have accepted

only ONE parathaththwa ie., Na:ra:yana as the Supreme

Bramha.

 

As according to the need of the day and the deserving recepients,

in the society, they presented several facts to the extent they would be

understood, so that, the Vedic Practices like Yagnas, Pujas etc., as prescribed

according to Agama and Sasthras, which lead people on the path of the ultimate

Truth, do not get disturbed ...

 

Our Acharyas always wished good to the entire society, entire

world and all the living beings. Theirconcentration is in serving the purpose

of the devotees. Doing every activity in His service. They strictly followed

the Vedic traditional code of conduct with utmost reverence.

 

It is only to those who deserved and desired..., such Truths have

been revealed by our Acharyas. That too according to how Vedas and Sasthras

prescribe. The authenticity of Vedas is ever unquestionable nor unignorable.

Our tradition never followed anything of our minds or our conceptions in dealing

with the fundamental truths. They took the real experiences of those who

sacrificed their pleasures and also their lives, abiding by the strict

austerities and physical sufferings to understand and realise the Universal

truths. Our Acharyas followed the same path.

 

Some scholars in the midieval period might have misled people

imposing their own things too, out of ignorance, pride etc.,and also to meet

their selfish ends. However, original scriptures of our great sages and saints

never go against Sasthra. One should know the limit and application of when

where how etc.

 

Out of the vast knowledge Sri Veda Vyasa acquired and realised, out

of infinite mercy towards the suffering souls, to do the best he can, tried to

give the cardinals of Vedas as a capsule. Veda Vyasa who absolutely mastered

all the Vedas, (along with the Vedangas,) assembled all the scholars, sages,

saints, who are following the perennial Vedic tradition that is coming through

ages, in the long lineage,(along with their followers ), of his time and

arranged a big discussion individually as well as collectively on various topics

of the facts revealed, realised and practiced, that went on and on for so long

and finally, UNDER EVERYBODY's acceptance, formulated BRAMHA SU:THRAS. Everybody

not only accepted, but, highly praised his efforts and his service to the

humanity and hailed him as the God incarnation on this Earth, to redeem the

sufferings of the souls.

 

There is no need to redo the exercise by anybody as we need not

rediscover things every time. Let us preserve them in their pristine sanctity

and adopt them. It is enough if one can accept them in their right sense and

realise the facts and implement the life time deeds in His service. Our Acharyas

followed the same path.

 

By Veda Vyasa himself who brought out 18 Puranas, it was said that

there are Sa:thvik Pura:na:s, Ra:jasik Pura:na:s and Tha:masik Pura:na:s. Of

which, He advised to follow the hierarchy with Sa:thvik on the top for people

who are on sa:thvik path and desire the Ultimate goal. Lord Krishna in Bhagavad

Gi:tha also said again and again to follow "Sa:thvik" ONLY, to better oneself on

the path of Ultimate Yoga. If anything that is not sa:thvik, it means, it will

divert us from actual truth. Ra:jasa and Tha:masa Pura:na:s are for those who

are having dominant Ra:jasic, Tha:masic qualities. That's the reason why our

pu:rva:cha:rya:s never even touched those Purana:s either in any of their

authentic commentaries on Su:thras or in their compositions.

 

The Bramha Vaivartha Pura:na which you referred as Bramha Samhitha was

not listed under these Sa:thvik Pura:na:s or scriptures enumerated by Veda

Vyasa. Hence, any of our Pu:rva:cha:ryas including Bhagavad Ra:ma:nuja never

needed to take it in deciding the ultimate truths, for there are many Sasthras,

available, to decide the facts.

 

Let us strictly seek the Sa:ththvik path alone and better ourselves in His

service.

 

Lord loves the one who serves His devotees. Life is short. May we be

fortunate to realise the blessings of our Acharyas and make our lives

purposeful. Let us run to be in His service under the guidance of our merciful

Acharyas.

 

 

Jai Srimannarayana !

 

srikaryam

=krishna ramanuja dasa=

 

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> Message: 6

> Wed, 04 Jun 2003 19:52:00 -0000

> "sssshiva2002"

> Re: Don't mislead people away from Vedic concepts, by,

> imposing concepts of our mind...!!

>

> i am under the impression that Sri Ramanuja said that the jiva is

> manifest from God.

>

> this is my position,to say that we exist as seperate from the soul of

> God is impossible.

>

> Brahman = the impersonal aspect of the supreme being, all pervading

> infinite field of unlimited energy.

>

> Paramatma = the "Param" supreme or super, "atma" ,soul or

> consciousness. This is the consciousness of Brahman, the infinite

> field of unlimited energy is alive, and that consciousness is able to

> have full awareness present at any point within it, without losing

> any awareness anywhere else within it, simultaneously being the

> consciousness of the infinite energy and also the energy itself.

>

> Bhagavan = the personality of that being, personality being the id,

> or self conception or psyche, this is the controlling aspect of

> Brahman/Paramatma.

>

> therefore the Brahma Samhita says, Isvara Parama Krsna, and Sarva

> Karana Karanam, or , Krsna is the supreme controller, and the cause

> of all causes, all things that happen are caused by the Personality

> of Godhead, as the Personality is the controlling aspect of any

> person.

>

> this should clear up any misconceptions.

>

> so all things exist within god's soul, it is impossible for there to

> exist anything that doesn't exist within the field of infinite super

> conscious energy or God.

>

> As individuals we partake of the cognizant aspect of God's soul, we

> do not partake of the energy aspect, although we are given limited

> access to and use of it at God's wish and will.

>

> to say that we existed in some small space somewhere in an subtle

> form ,unconscious, and unmanifest, is a philosophical concept of even

> more subtleness.

>

> we existed in some small space.

>

> yes, i agree, but that small space was the imagination of God, it

> took his actual effort to bring about our being.

>

>

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