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Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 untidy, perfumes, ... if the environment itself is unpure, dirty- Mother will be relunctant to come. In fact Mother resides in the abode with lord Shiva. to give darshan Mother has to descend from her beautiful palace to descend on earth. whenever she comes to manifest herself we must ask forgiveness as she has come on this dirty, ugly, unpure earth leaving her beautiful abode. therefore, blood sacrifice is not the only solution to satisfy our Kindhearted Mother regards Richa Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear Jyotsna Pandit >I hail from a place where people still believe in the custom of blood sacrifices and as far as i have heard Kali Ma eats watever we eat so if the devotees are non vegeterian then we can not cricize the thought of offering blood to Ma. I agree with you, even though I hail from a country (Australia) where blood sacrifices are not part of the culture. As the Mahanirvana Tantra says, truth is dharma. If animals are to be killed and eaten, is it better to have it done very discretely, behind the walls of a slaugherhouse, where the public doesn't see? Or is more honest to do the killing before the gates of a temple, where all -- woman and man, Goddess and God -- can see the truth of what happens. I used to know a lady who used to think nothing of eating various sorts of meat. Until one day, friends of hers, who were farmers, gave her the opportunity of shooting a pig herself, prior to feasting on it. She did so, and afterwards she became a vegetarian. I am not necessarily advocating vegetarianism. However, I find it easier to understand someone like her, than to understand the many eaters of meat who don't want to know how it comes to be on their table. Om Shantih Colin Kali_Ma, jyotsna pandit <jyotsna_pndt> wrote: > > Dear Stephanie, > > I seriously dont know if we should give blood sacrifices to Ma and think to be a sensitive topic to discussed on, though I have got mixed opinions. > > Sometimes, I feel that its wrong slaughtering animals and offering blood(against humanity) but at the same time I hail from a place where people still believe in the custom of blood sacrifices and as far as i have heard Kali Ma eats watever we eat so if the devotees are non vegeterian then we can not cricize the thought of offering blood to Ma.Ma is supposed to be fasting in the 9 days of puja and therefore She is very hungry aterwards and needs blood.Though its written in the Chalisa not to make any contact of Chalisa with flesh or blood but if this culture is still running then there must be some logic and it could be true also that MAA needs blood.I have witnessed many of these offerings made in our family. > > Thanks, > Jyotsna. > darkchildofheaven <einahpets87@g...> wrote: > hi guys i have made a new poll, the question is 'Do you believe in > blood sacrifices to mother?' I have recognized that may people believe > in blood sacrifices to her, why is this so? Do you all know that it is > not right to do that, mother does not want blood from us and it has > serious consequences if you stop! Please share your opinion on this > topic and why u belive or do not believe in blood sacrifices. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "Kali_Ma" on the web. > > > Kali_Ma > > Terms of Service. > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear all If we remember science we can know that matter can not be destroyed but can only be transformed. It is transformed in to different matter and energies are also transformed. Am I right so far? We also read the scriptures and read various stories of Gods and Goddesses in them. However these are not stories to be read but the hidden meaning and message has to be understood as well. Ma Kali took her form during the battle between Ma Durga and the demon Raktabeej. Raktabeej had wonderful multiplying qualities in his blood. If his blood touched any matter it would create a 000 demons like him [remember the dragons teeth in Jason and the golden fleece?] in extreme anger the Mothers colour turned black and she opened her mouth wide enough and took the demons on her tongue. She beheaded Raktabeej and drank all his blood and ate away all the demons created by his blood. The Mother not being matter but pure energy the demon could not multiply and was totally destroyed. Nothing remained no bones no flesh and no ashes. The elements were also destroyed. Hence the Mother established that matter can be destroyed completely by HER!!!!!! She is the supreme power. Another story goes where Ganeshas head was chopped of by Shankara and which made Mother Parvati very upset. In her anger she assumed the form of Kali and Durga and wrecked havoc on the Devas. Her nerves assumed the form of the 64 yoginis. Her yoginis went about devouring humans animals on earth. The Mother forbade them form doing so but when the yoginis pleaded for more blood the Mother cut her own head and made them drink her blood. They were aghast and had to stop the slaughter. The mothers one drop of blood dropped on earth where stands the divine temple of Mansa Devi. On account of the above there is no way the Mother can ask for blood sacrifice. It is just an assumed practice. However offering a goat has its meaning. Goat is the personification of carnal desires and if one has won over his sexual extremes he/she can offer a goats head stand on the head and announce to the Mother that he/she is free form the desires of the flesh. This I had read somewhere. But eating the goat I did not read. During the great famine Maharishi Vhishwamitra had eaten a dog and offered it to the Mother also. On which the Mother had assumed the form of Shakumbhari and had a 1000 eyes and had showered the earth with food grains vegetables and water. Jai MAA!!! Sanjay N Kali_Ma [Kali_Ma] On Behalf Of colin777auWednesday, December 14, 2005 10:55 AMKali_MaSubject: Re: new poll up!Dear Jyotsna Pandit>I hail from a place where people still believe in the custom of blood sacrifices and as far as i have heard Kali Ma eats watever we eat so if the devotees are non vegeterian then we can not cricize the thought of offering blood to Ma.I agree with you, even though I hail from a country (Australia) where blood sacrifices are not part of the culture.As the Mahanirvana Tantra says, truth is dharma.If animals are to be killed and eaten, is it better to have it done very discretely, behind the walls of a slaugherhouse, where the public doesn't see? Or is more honest to do the killing before the gates of a temple, where all -- woman and man, Goddess and God -- can see the truth of what happens.I used to know a lady who used to think nothing of eating various sorts of meat. Until one day, friends of hers, who were farmers, gave her the opportunity of shooting a pig herself, prior to feasting on it. She did so, and afterwards she became a vegetarian.I am not necessarily advocating vegetarianism. However, I find it easier to understand someone like her, than to understand the many eaters of meat who don't want to know how it comes to be on their table.Om ShantihColin--- In Kali_Ma, jyotsna pandit <jyotsna_pndt> wrote:>> Dear Stephanie,> > I seriously dont know if we should give blood sacrifices to Ma and think to be a sensitive topic to discussed on, though I have got mixed opinions.> > Sometimes, I feel that its wrong slaughtering animals and offering blood(against humanity) but at the same time I hail from a place where people still believe in the custom of blood sacrifices and as far as i have heard Kali Ma eats watever we eat so if the devotees are non vegeterian then we can not cricize the thought of offering blood to Ma.Ma is supposed to be fasting in the 9 days of puja and therefore She is very hungry aterwards and needs blood.Though its written in the Chalisa not to make any contact of Chalisa with flesh or blood but if this culture is still running then there must be some logic and it could be true also that MAA needs blood.I have witnessed many of these offerings made in our family.> > Thanks,> Jyotsna.> darkchildofheaven <einahpets87@g...> wrote:> hi guys i have made a new poll, the question is 'Do you believe in> blood sacrifices to mother?' I have recognized that may people believe> in blood sacrifices to her, why is this so? Do you all know that it is> not right to do that, mother does not want blood from us and it has> serious consequences if you stop! Please share your opinion on this> topic and why u belive or do not believe in blood sacrifices.> > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "Kali_Ma" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> Kali_Ma> > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now.> - -- Music from EMI This e-mail including any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error please advise the sender immediately by return email and then delete it from your system. The unauthorised use, distribution, copying or alteration of this email is strictly forbidden. If you need assistance please contact us on +44 20 7795 7000. This email is from a unit or subsidiary of EMI Group plc. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 sacrifices are not part of the culture.As the Mahanirvana Tantra says, truth is dharma.If animals are to be killed and eaten, is it better to have it done very discretely, behind the walls of a slaugherhouse, where the public doesn't see? Or is more honest to do the killing before the gates of a temple, where all -- woman and man, Goddess and God -- can see the truth of what happens.I used to know a lady who used to think nothing of eating various sorts of meat. Until one day, friends of hers, who were farmers, gave her the opportunity of shooting a pig herself, prior to feasting on it. She did so, and afterwards she became a vegetarian.I am not necessarily advocating vegetarianism. However, I find it easier to understand someone like her, than to understand the many eaters of meat who don't want to know how it comes to be on their table.Om ShantihColinKali_Ma, jyotsna pandit <jyotsna_pndt> wrote:>> Dear Stephanie,> > I seriously dont know if we should give blood sacrifices to Ma and think to be a sensitive topic to discussed on, though I have got mixed opinions.> > Sometimes, I feel that its wrong slaughtering animals and offering blood(against humanity) but at the same time I hail from a place where people still believe in the custom of blood sacrifices and as far as i have heard Kali Ma eats watever we eat so if the devotees are non vegeterian then we can not cricize the thought of offering blood to Ma.Ma is supposed to be fasting in the 9 days of puja and therefore She is very hungry aterwards and needs blood.Though its written in the Chalisa not to make any contact of Chalisa with flesh or blood but if this culture is still running then there must be some logic and it could be true also that MAA needs blood.I have witnessed many of these offerings made in our family.> > Thanks,> Jyotsna.> darkchildofheaven <einahpets87@g...> wrote:> hi guys i have made a new poll, the question is 'Do you believe in> blood sacrifices to mother?' I have recognized that may people believe> in blood sacrifices to her, why is this so? Do you all know that it is> not right to do that, mother does not want blood from us and it has> serious consequences if you stop! Please share your opinion on this> topic and why u belive or do not believe in blood sacrifices.> > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "Kali_Ma" on the web.> > > Kali_Ma> > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner now.> Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Hello Derek. >Offering my own blood to her would still be considered a "blood sacrifice", correct? Yes. There are references to offerings of this type in the Devi Mahatmya, Kalika Purana, and the Tantras. If I remember correctly, one tantric text says that it is better to offer one drop of your own blood than a pitcher of blood from another creature. Have you considered mundane issues, such as blood poisoning, infection, anaemia? I know an ardent worshipper of Kali who accidently set fire to his bedroom while burning candles before an image... Om Shantih Colin Kali_Ma, derek weichert <fallen9477> wrote: > > Greetings, > Im a new devotee of Kali and still make some mistakes....although Ma is very patient and loving. I have a question regarding blood sacrifice.......Ive read alot in this group about sacrificing animals to Ma but I myself have offered my own blood to her....just a few drops at a time and it seems to be effective. Offering my own blood to her would still be considered a "blood sacrifice", correct? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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