Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Dear Prakki, Why dont you reply on the statements said earlier, instead you are adding new statements, I repeat my questions with refered statements by Lord Shri Datta swami, =====prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: In the spiritual field the only two impurities,which are the two layers that cover our two eyes are egoism and jealousy. 1. What about other impurities like Lust ,anger, greed, moh(passion). If the other two are gone,even these are present then human is freed? Sadhana is only the eye operation to remove these two layers from our two eyes. 2.What is sadhana in Lord Shri Datta swamis views? Sometimes the human incarnation was also killed due to the intensity of these two layers as in the case of Lord Jesus. Lord Mohammed also had to fight with people constantly because He tried to unite the various sub-religions in Islam. Sankara was killed by black magic because He condemned all the sub-religions and united them. 3.If Lord Shri jesus and Lord Shri Shankara were incarnations why did they killed by human? it ultimately states that human can kill god incarnations if he wants? As per your statements human has choice to kill Lord incarnations,isnt it? 4.How black magic works?do you have any explanation on this? If it can destroy the incarnation in human of god, it seems it is more powerfull than god.Then why the whole human society has believe that god is the supremo and the most powerfull? 5.Did you find anything written on duties of deceple or its not known yet? 6.How god can be pleased?what is the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 , "udaykumar S.K." <udaykumar001 wrote: > > Dear Prakki, yes udai this i a very good question. I also wonder many times why Shri Krishna too was killed by a hunter, if he was a God. Do you know the reply? gs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 gs, As i know all the incarnations are of the peoples who have reached at the level of supercasual level of existance, like Lord Shri Shiva, or you can say all the three super gods Lord Shri Brahma, Lord Shri Vishu Lord Shri Mahesh,or from the casula levels like swami vivekananda or saints and rishis,and deceples and devotees. The people who do sadhna in their human birth they reach at different devine planes which include astral,casual and super casual bodies depending upon their intensity of devotion and faith and detachments from the illusions. But when such a person incarnates (incarnation is having choice of taking birth in human body for liberation from super casual status)the some of his pervious karmas are left to be completed and had been kept aside, which occur in his human life and which shapes his life. since their protocol to such incedents are deep as their status is,the incedents are at great level.They have total control over it even though they want to suffer them and finish the karmas.Once the rule of karma takes place their is nothing in the world to stop them from liberation and they are finished from the universe.Due to this reason their is always different life style and incedents are seen in their life. Human is the only birth and creation which decides to go for godlyness,human or devil.The rule of karma is irresistable and can be only softened by request to devine bodies by human for help like prayers and worships.After supercasual level no duality is possible hence self is also nullified. Krishna was killed since it was related in his early human births. Everything is relative. --- gaytrishandilya <no_reply> wrote: > , "udaykumar S.K." > <udaykumar001 > wrote: > > > > Dear Prakki, > > yes udai this i a very good question. I also wonder > many times why > Shri Krishna too was killed by a hunter, if he was a > God. > > Do you know the reply? > > gs > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 egoism & jealousy obstruct us in identifying the Lord in human form or Sadguru. The essence of Saadhana is to identify Sadguru and serve Him in His mission. The remaining qualities, Lust ,anger...etc will not give rise to problem in identifying the Sadguru. Jnana Yoga means recognition of the Lord in human form in your human generation. Such recognition can be misled by several factors of ignorance. The real diamond is mixed with several artificial diamonds. To eliminate the real diamond from all the other artificial diamonds requires knowledge of the real diamond and also the knowledge of artificial diamonds (Jnana Yoga). Thus there are several fraud incarnations in this world and only one real human incarnation exists. As the real diamond is recognized by its total multiple internal reflections of light in various angles, similarly the real incarnation is recognized by the various reflections of the internal knowledge in various angles. Such knowledge is called as Prajnanam, which is special to the Lord only and is not possible for others. The other scholars can have only the knowledge learnt from books, which is called as Jnanam. The refractive index of diamond is very high by which the real diamond is recognized. Similarly by the special knowledge (Prajnanam) the real human incarnation is recognized. By such special knowledge you will be liberated from all the worldly bonds and that is the salvation. Coming close to the Lord in human form is called Sayujyam and Kaivalyam. Thus you can attain both the benefits i.e., Moksha (Salvation) and also Sayujyam (Becoming close to the Lord) and Kaivalyam (becoming one with the Lord, which means that whatever you wish the Lord will have the same wish or vice versa). you are welcome to discuss via chatting also on this e-mailid itself. The answers for all your questions have already been posted. Anyway i don't mind discussing again. I am of the view that a little physical discussion (through chatting) will be better to get clarity of the things. posted by: His servant at the lotus feet of shri datta swami " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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