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An inherant aspect of Sanatan Dharm, is learning through the Guru-

shishya relationship. While the medium of learning may have changed

today for many people, we still learn from a teacher. We have many

many wonderful Gurus, each with their lineages, each speaking to a

different audience. That every individual can find a path that suits

their temperament and readiness, is perhaps one of the strongest

assets of the Sanatan Dharm. (It may also be the reason for

divisiveness!!)

 

As I read and discuss with people, both in real and cyber world, I

find a lot of cynicism among people regarding Gurus and their roles.

On one end competitive marketing, commercialization, mass media

events, dissapointments, betayals, all have taken its toll. At the

same time, on the other end of the spectrum, the search for answers

and hunger for guidance has led to almost blind clutching on to feel-

good teachers. The truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle.

 

While we continue to discuss various issues, I am beginning a

segment featuring a "Guru of the month/week". A Guru's picture

will be on our web home page, and we will present information about

their teachings, access to their schools, and discussion about their

paths. Each Guru will be featured for 1-3 weeks.

 

I request the following from our members.

 

1. Please send me (tatwamasi) names and pictures (if

available) of Gurus/teachers you want to be presented.

 

2. Please SHARE any information you have about the Guru, specially

your experience with that school and some information about the

teachings of the Guru. While I will gather information from a

variety of sources including the internet, I am specially interested

in hearing what the the followers of the school have to share.

 

3. Your ideas about how we can make this feature useful to all.

 

This feature will go side by side with any other discusion that is

going on. Members can post on any ongoing topic.

 

Looking forward to learning from you all.

 

_/\_ Tat Twam Asi

 

Uma

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Respected Tatawamasi,

 

Like Lalu politely raised the point a few days ago- we have access to

internet and Libraries. If I want to find out about a guru, I can do

so without help.

 

> teachings of the Guru. While I will gather information from a

> variety of sources including the internet, I am specially interested

> in hearing what the the followers of the school have to share.

 

Oh really, you dont know what the followers think, when they post

thousands of pages of their Gurus lecture every single day, not even

taking Sunday off?

 

If anything, I want to know less about what their Gurus think and more

about what they think. There is a shortage of orginial opinion in this

club, if anything.

 

 

> As I read and discuss with people, both in real and cyber world, I

> find a lot of cynicism among people regarding Gurus

 

More like bone crunching boredom.

 

Asking members about Gurus means that big rich Gurus like the Hare

Krishnas or the fellow whose Guru gave 2 crore charity will

overwhelm(correction have not will) the club.

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Every thing is relative in this world and depends on how one uses/

interpretes it.

 

You can find everything on the internet, what is the reason anyway of

your being here? Since you can find everywhere what you are looking

for and the discussions are anyway not what you want?

 

Secondly, as a yoga student I have met many gurus and investigated

many paths. Its good to do research and not to trust easily anyone,

especially when nowadays we have so many false gurus. But not to

respect the ones that have affected the whole yogic world is solely an

ego thing. In the end even a false guru can teach you things. We learn

according to our will.

 

Following the yoga school of a guru does not imply the fanatism you

quote. On the contrary, real practicioners of yoga paths broaden their

minds and are more tolerate towards all gurus and paths. It is only

religious followers that end up caught in the net of fanatism. And

yoga is about practice, not a religion of faith system.

 

And anyway this project was supposed to present gurus and their paths

in an objective and general way. I do not like reading the lengthy

lectures of people calling them gurus in this club. But I enjoy

reading a small paragraph about their origin, name of school and basic

principles. We are talking here about useful information that can be

the inspiration for further research.

 

So lets not be absolute. I am sure that the ones who will do the

searching and present the gurus in an objective way, would waste a lot

of time to gather the useful infos and dispose the rest. I am in any

way interest in reading those works and those who are not, can refrain

from reading them.

 

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> Respected Tatawamasi,

>

> Like Lalu politely raised the point a few days ago- we have access

to

> internet and Libraries. If I want to find out about a guru, I can do

> so without help.

>

> > teachings of the Guru. While I will gather information from a

> > variety of sources including the internet, I am specially

interested

> > in hearing what the the followers of the school have to share.

>

> Oh really, you dont know what the followers think, when they post

> thousands of pages of their Gurus lecture every single day, not even

> taking Sunday off?

>

> If anything, I want to know less about what their Gurus think and

more

> about what they think. There is a shortage of orginial opinion in

this

> club, if anything.

>

>

> > As I read and discuss with people, both in real and cyber world, I

> > find a lot of cynicism among people regarding Gurus

>

> More like bone crunching boredom.

>

> Asking members about Gurus means that big rich Gurus like the Hare

> Krishnas or the fellow whose Guru gave 2 crore charity will

> overwhelm(correction have not will) the club.

>

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I do understand your sarcasm dear friend, I used to say that myself.

One the milestones in my journey was in 1990 when an American Hindu

friend of mine reminded me "Don't throw the baby with the bath

water".

 

For each fake Guru, there are mumerous amazing ones. Behind each

fanatic follower, is a scared individual who wants the world safe

and orderly; behind each wannabe Guru, is a hungry seeker who wants

nourishment of his soul, and a release for his bondage and for every

cynic there is a hurt soul who is ready for more, but is standing in

his own path.

 

What is more useful for us is to see which ones are worthy of being

emulated and followed. Which ones touch us in our core? Who will

touch your heart may not touch mine, because we are not all at the

same place in our evolvement.

 

Nothing original here? I'm sorry our club has disappointed you. For

me however "when the student is ready the Guru appears everywhere".

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> Respected Tatawamasi,

>

> Like Lalu politely raised the point a few days ago- we have access

to

> internet and Libraries. If I want to find out about a guru, I can

do

> so without help.

>

>

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