Moksha in one birth?

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dear Friend Shanracer

 

The whole creation is an imagination of Lord for His entertainment. This can

be understood by comparing with the dreaming of human being in conscious state.

The very imagination power was given to human beings by Lord to understand this

concept. You can modify, remove, produce and destroy anything in your

imagination. Human being with very little power is able to imagine a small

scene. Whereas Lord, who is of Infinite power can imagine such a huge creation.

 

But the creation is imagination to Lord but reality to human beings. Like

anybody in your imagination is imaginary with respect you but real to another in

your imagination. This even clearly shows the dreamer (Lord) and anything in the

dream (creation) are not one and the same.

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The two great scriptures The Bible & The Gita, say that Lord comes in human

form, 'God-in-flesh' and 'Manusheem Tanumasritaam...'. Generally theists believe

in the past messengers. They accept only the past incarnations. Both Jesus and

Krishna told that they come again. But, no weightage is given to these words in

their eyes. Infact Lord comes in every generation otherwise He becomes partial

by giving His divine experience to only some people. Ofcourse even the past

messengers were also not identified by the people present during that time. This

is mainly because of jealousy and egoism. This is a continuous process going on

and on.

 

If He comes in human form, it will be convincing for atheists also. Now

theists say Lord is there but they cannot show. Then how atheists believe? The

fundamental problem lies in accepting the present messenger in front of our

eyes. Like in the past, messengers keep coming in the present and future also,

but always a handful of people only accept at the most. The knowledge required

to identify Him is the divine knowledge which is to be learnt. Otherwise the

same stalemate continues.

 

The essence of spiritual effort is to identify the Lord in human form in our

time and serve Him rest of our life time in His mission without any expectation.

Ex: Hanuman, Swami Vivekananda, the disciples of Jesus, the disciples of

AdiSankara etc.

 

Service (the highest fruit) is the only means to have a continuous association

& pleasing of Lord with us. But there should not be any hurry in identifying the

Lord in human form, because it is the most vital one. Otherwise, you service is

to a human being only which is not service to Lord. Service should always be

associated with Nishkama (no expectation) otherwise it is like a small drop of

poison in a pot of milk.

 

at the lotus of shri datta swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

shanracer <no_reply> wrote:

 

Prakki, I agree with you. But if you think carefully, this whole universe is a

part of God. So loving god or his creation is the same thing. You cannot love an

abstract god if you do not love his visible

manifestations......

 

love,

SB

 

 

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God is inside and outside of everything. God is the composition of

every. From God all is. We must remember this but also know not to be

attached to anything, as all things that are made manifest are

imperminent.

 

>From the most beautiful and prosperous being to the lowliest and most

despised of creations is the wonderful seed of God. Everywhere is His

essence and His power and grace. Only becuase of His great Love is

anything. Being in the presence of God is being aware of His

everything-ness, no matter how vast. To just be is an awesomeness.

When you learn to be then the illusions ( of all kinds) are gone from

you. YOu are then at that moment able to knowingly in the presence of

God. It does not matter if this experience lasts yugas upon yugas or

just for a fraction of a second. To be blessed on a conscious level

with the pure, unmuddied, desireless love of the Lord is amazing. The

only word I have found that can describe Him is: "Beyond." God is

every thing, action, thought, emotion... absolutely everything and

situation which has any way of being created (whether or not we could

imagine it does not matter) has been created within the almight Lord,

but that is the limited part. There is that which is beyond any of

the infinite manifestations, maybe some might call it the unmanifest

part of God, I truly dont know.

 

A simple explanation is to draw a circle on a piece of paper. Inside

the circle draw a small dot. The individual jiva (you) is the dot.

Everything manifest is within the circle. That which is contained

within the cirlce, the circle, and that which is outside the circle

(which can span across the paper to whatever distance possible) is

God.

 

The Lord is everything and BEYOND.

 

The jiva and body may live their own life, but that which truly is

always knows.

 

The Lord is made manifest in every generation. There is never a time

when manifestation is made without it being from the Lord.

[Guest guest]

, caisuir <no_reply wrote:

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> God is inside and outside of everything. God is the composition of

 

 

What a beautiful thought !! thankyou for sharing !!

 

love

 

baba

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Namaste , how can one be free of the desire for moksha ?

by realizing that there is nothing to be realized other

than that all is perfect as it is here and now and that

enlightment is an eternal process ? can one offer all

thoughts and desire to the Ishta Devata to be blessed and

transformed , as part of the Bhakti sadhana ? thank you -

-- In , shanracer <no_reply wrote:

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> , gaytrishandilya <no_reply@> wrote:

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> > Which sadhna is capable of getting us Mokshya in one birth only?