Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I am trying to give reply to you. It is a known fact that there are 85 lakhs of varieties of Jeevas. What is the probability of getting a human birth once again? Probability is (1/8500000 which is ~ 0). What is so great that you have done to get a human birth once again? Assume that a little bit of Saadhana is done. Simultaneously he/she does lot of bad karmas also and the results of which he has to undergo. Even a mental feeling is a sin. Hence, if anybody’s file is opened and given birth accordingly, nobody deserves human birth. Other than in human birth, he cannot do Saadhana also. Even in human birth also, if you see in the world more than 99% of people do some idol worship for few min. once in a while and rest of the time will be spent in worldly activities. The outcome of such human birth with regard to spiritual effort is negative because the tendencies for the world are strengthened. On the other hand, to undergo whatever karmas he has done, takes huge no. of births. Such human birth is of no use as there is no spiritual progress. Do you think one who cannot cut the bonds in one life can cut in another life? Don’t you think that the Lord has already given you the most suitable birth for you to reach Him now? Like good health, food, provided with many facilities to read and learn divine knowledge from distance, etc. When one cannot perform now, will he be able to do it latter? Adi Sankara told getting human birth is rare, desire for salvation is even rare and getting Satguru is rarest. One who always fears cannot do any sacrifice for the sake of Lord even after any no. of births. Problem complicates further in accepting the true divine knowledge itself. Practice is after acceptance and until and unless practiced, Lord will not be pleased with you. Don’t you think the blindness of the soul with the worldly bonds goes on increasing with more and more no. of births spending in such environment only? How difficult it is becoming day by day as we strengthen family bonds? That much we are moving away from salvation and Lord. Right from the beginning of creation, if you see the real list of devotees, it is very very short. Ex: Atri, Anasuya, Hanuman, Lakshmana, Sita, Bharata, Sabari, Satrughna, Radha, Gopikas, Prahlada, Saktuprastha, Sudama, Meera, Siriyala, Kannappa, Tukaram, Annamayya, Goda, Vivekananda, Mandana Misra, Totaka, Padma pada, Vishnu Datta and a few more. If you see the present day Indian population itself is more than 100 crores forget about the world population. If you include the population of other than human beings also (because those also took such births according to their sins done in the human birth) this no. becomes very huge. Compare these numbers. If your statement is true, atleast once in a while people should join to that list. But that is not happening. Without Lord in human form in front of you and guiding you always, no one can reach Lord. Not even possible to imagine. Gita says ‘Eka Bhakthih Vishishyate’ which means that the person having only one bond with the Lord alone is liberated. The liberation itself means destruction of all the bonds in this world. Without full liberation, one cannot have a strong bond with the Lord. Unless one is completely relieved from the world, one cannot join God. The joining report in the new institution is not possible without complete relief from the previous institution. You cannot partially join the new institution. According to Jesus, Luke—14:26 to 27 “If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple’’. What is the difference between these two Christian and Indian philosophies? If you hate lord in one form and love in another form, Lord will not be pleased with you. You could not cross even the religion barrier, what spirituality you can talk off? In spiritual discussions, you are writing some unwanted words. Lord is Jnana Swaroopa. Rejecting divine knowledge is rejecting Him. at the lotus of shri datta swami surya www.universal-spirituality.org Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote: Hinduism has re-birth as its core philosophy. "Hey Arjun, those who are failed in their yoga sadhna in this birth, they take re-birth in the house of pure people and soon due to their last birth's sadhna, they turn to spirituality and re-start their sadhna (from where they left in last birth)...and thus birth by birth ...he gains spiritual heights and finally reaches me" The philosphy of Christianity is childish before the Hinduism philosophy of Advaita and Tantra. Please i am allergic to bul..t I am already sneezin My sincere advice to you Surya ...instead of this cutting and pasting ...try seeing the truth yourself ! you will be surprised how things change after you have glimpsed the Truth !! With love baba Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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