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Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami

 

 

The atheist says that God does not exist. For him God is nothing i.e., vacant

space. This is the first stage. When he sees miracles he becomes the believer in

God. He accepts God as some power or energy. The power or energy is also

formless, like vacant space. So the concept of God is near to his previous

concept and thus the atheist (Scientist) accepts the formless (Nirakara) God

very easily. The third stage is God with form (Sakara). In this stage statues in

the human form are introduced. The training is given to do the sixteen upacharas

(services) to these statues in human form. This training indicates that they

have to worship the God in human form in this way. The sixteen upacharas are

actually related to the human form only. For eg: the first upachara

‘Aavahanam’ means invitation corresponds to the human being only and not to

inert statue. The statue in the temple is better than the statue in your house.

Why? Because in the temple the ‘Pranaprathista’ i.e., initiation of life

is done to the statue. This again indicates that you have to worship the statue

with life. The concept is the inert statue plus life is equal to human being.

Therefore in the temple the statue indicates that you have to worship the statue

with life i.e., the human form of God only. Like this you are slowly trained to

worship the human form of the God by the sixteen upacharas. In this training

when your egoism and jealousy is completely destroyed now the human form of the

God is introduced. Unless your egoism and jealousy are completely destroyed you

cannot accept the human form directly. So the worship of the inert statue in the

human form introduces the concept of human form, then the initiation of life

(Prana pratishta) introduces the concept of living human form. Thus this is a

gradual transformation of you by reducing your egoism and jealousy. When your

egoism and jealousy are completely removed, the

final human form of God is introduced. Only a particular man like Lord Krishna

is God. This is Advaita philosophy, which is extended to every man due to the

same jealousy and egoism. If every man is God, nobody requires salvation.

Like this when you are travelling from vacant space to formless energy or

power then you are accepting the human form but without life which is a statue

in your house. In the same stage you are accepting the statue plus life in the

temple, which means only a living human form. Finally you are catching the God

in the present living human form. Whatever I preached here is having the best

practical proof. Hanuman, the greatest of the human beings in this world

worshipped Rama only who was a living human being in his time. He did not go

down i.e.; he never meditated upon the formless God or the statues. In Valmiki

Ramayana such things are not mentioned. He never worshipped even previous human

incarnations like ‘Vamana’. He worshipped only the human incarnation present

in his generation.

Similarly Radha never worshipped ‘Rama’ but worshipped only Krishna who

was the human incarnation of her generation. As per Bhagavatham Radha also never

worshipped the statues or the formless God. Hanuman became Brahma and Radha

became the queen of the 15th World ‘Goloka’. Nobody in this world will

attain a better position than these two. So your spiritual journey must end in

recognizing the human incarnation of God present in your generation. God is

impartial and so He comes down in human form in every generation. If you say

Lord Krishna is only the latest incarnation, then that generation was blessed

and God became partial. Therefore God is coming in human form in every human

generation. People are not recognizing Him because after the incarnation of

Krishna the egoism and jealousy are growing continuously in all the human

beings. The man did not recognize the God coming in human form after Krishna.

After Krishna and before ‘Kalki’ is ‘Kaliyuga’. Due to the

influence of the ‘Kali’ people are full of egoism and jealousy and so they

cannot recognize the human form of God in ‘Kaliyuga’.

God comes in different human forms in the same time in various levels for

the sake of devotees in various levels. He comes as a schoolteacher for the

school students, as a lecturer for the college students and as a Professor for

the post graduate students. Since the school students and college students are

large in number he comes down as a number of schoolteachers and college

lecturers. Such incarnations are called as ‘Amsavataras’, which mean the

incarnations of a small portion of His power. The incarnation of His radiation

is called ‘Kalavatara’ which is the formless God like light worshipped by

some believers. The light travels as waves and the Siva Linga in the temple

represents this formless God. Since the Post graduation students are less in

number only one professor comes down and He is the ‘Pari poorna tamavathara’

i.e., the most complete incarnation, which reveals the final true knowledge. He

is called ‘Satguru’ or the original Datta in the human form.

 

Satguru in human form is the composite of all the deities. Such human form of

Lord is coming in every human generation so that He is not partial to a

particular human generation only. The entire world is in His body. There is

nothing outside.

Everything is in the Satguru. People are worshipping the external inert forms

without knowing the real nature of Satguru. “Bahirmukha sudurlabha†means

that there is nothing in this external world. “Antar Mukha Samaradhya†means

that the internal form of the human incarnation is the real Lord. The human body

of the Lord called as Satguru is the modification of Maya and He is Prakruti

itself. Such human body follows the rules of nature and is behaving like any

other human body, which is weak and is called as Lalita. The word Lalita means

the Prakruti which represents the human body of the Lord and that is tender

without any divine strength. There is no other way than to worship the external

form of human incarnation because the internal form is beyond imagination.

Therefore Lalita (human body) is only the alternative to worship the Lord. The

Lord with human body is called Saguna Brahman, which means the Lord associated

with Guna (Quality).

 

Therefore it is told “Na Guroradhikam, Gurussakshaat Parabrahma†i.e.,

nobody is greater than the Satguru and the Satguru is the final Lord.

posted by: His servant

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

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"udaykumar S.K." <udaykumar001 wrote: I am Devotee of my sadguru

and always insisting on

devotion of gods which are in saguna status.Is that

incorrect?

 

I believe in Nirguna but unless success is saguna

devotion the next stage is not possibel.Is it

incorrect.

 

While we enter within we should know what is the

illusion.If you stuck up in forms,liberation is not

possible.

 

Please give your comments where you find the

differences,I will correct them,coz mistakes happen.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Yogavashista has a beautiful explanation on soul's journey after

death.

 

Lila said: "Tell me in short, Goddess Sarasvati, something more with

regard to death, as to whether it is happy or painful to die and

what becomes of people after they are dead and gone from here."

 

The Goddess replied: "Dying men are of three sorts and have

different results upon their death. They are, those who are

ignorant, and such as are versed in Yoga, and those that are

abstemious and religious.

 

"Those practising the Dharana Yoga may go wherever they like, after

leaving their bodies, and so the reasonable Yogi is at liberty to

roam everywhere. (It consists in mental meditation and bodily

patience and endurance.)

 

"He who has not practised the Dharana Yoga nor applied himself to

acquisition of knowledge, nor has certain reservoir of virtues for

the future, is called the ignorant lot and meets with the pains and

penalties of death.

 

"He, whose mind is uncontrolled and full of desires and worldly

cares and anxieties, becomes as distressed as a lotus torn from its

stalk; in fact, it is the subjugation of inordinate passions and

destruction of inordinate desires and anxieties, which ensure our

true felicity.

 

"The mind that is not guided by the edicts of the Sastras, nor

purified by holiness, but given up to the society of the wicked, is

subjected to the burning sensation of fire within himself at the

moment of death.

 

"At the moment when the last gurgling of throat chokes the breath,

the eyesight is dimmed and the countenance fades away, then the

Jivatman also becomes hazy in its intellect.

 

"A deep darkness pervades the dimming sight and then starts to

twinkle before it in day-light. The sky appears to be obscured by

clouds, and presents a gloomy aspect.

 

"An acute pain traverses the whole frame and a fata morgana dances

before the vision; the earth is turned to air and the mid-air seems

to be the habitation of the dying person.

 

"The firmament revolves before him, and the tide of the sea seems to

bear him away. He is now lifted up in the air, and now hurled down

as in a state of dream.

 

"Now he thinks as if he is falling in a dark pit and then as lying

in the valley of a hill; he wants to tell aloud his sufferings, but

his speech fails him.

 

"He now finds himself as falling down from the sky and now is

whirled in the air or wind. He is now riding swiftly as in a car,

and now finds himself melting as snow.

 

"He desires to acquaint his friends of the torments of life and this

world; but he is carried away from them as rapidly as by an

aeroplane.

 

"He whirls about as by a rotary machine or turning wheel and is

dragged along like a beast by its halter. He moves about as in an

eddy and is carried around as the machine of some engine.

 

"He is borne in the air as a straw, and is carried about as a cloud

by the winds. He soars high like a vapour, and then falls down like

a heavy watery cloud pouring out in the sea.

 

"He passes through the endless space and revolves there, to find as

it were, a place free from changes to which the earth and the ocean

are subject, (i.e., a place of peace and rest).

 

"Thus the rising and falling spirit roves interruptedly, and the

soul breathing hard sets the whole body in sore pain and agony.

 

"By degrees, the object of his senses becomes as faint as his

failing organs, as the landscape fades to view at the setting of the

sun.

 

"He loses the memory of the past and present, is at a loss to know

the quarters, after the evening twilight has passed away.

 

"In his fits of fainting, his mind loses its powers of thinking; and

he is lost in a state of nescience at the loss of all his thought

and sensibility.

 

"In the state of faintness, the vital breath ceases to circulate

through the body; and at the utter stoppage of its circulation,

there ensues a collapse much like swooning.

 

"When this state of apoplexy joined with delirium has reached its

climax, the body becomes as stiff as stone by the law of inertia,

ordained for living beings from the beginning."

[Guest guest]

100 % agree Baba.

 

--- Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

> The scriptures just indicate towards the TruthÂ…they

> are not Truth in

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[Guest guest]

Nicely explained baba,

 

--- Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

 

> Yogavashista has a beautiful explanation on soul's

> journey after

> death.

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[Guest guest]

why people undergo pain at the time of death. Everyone has to face

pain or there are some exceptions?

 

gs

 

, "udaykumar S.K." <udaykumar001

wrote:

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> Nicely explained baba,

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> --- Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

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> > Yogavashista has a beautiful explanation on soul's

> > journey after

> > death.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

gs,

 

Attachments with material world causes pain of leaving

them, It includes physical body,fame,ego of

intellect,material gains,relatives,

cars,buildings,everythings which is related directly

or indirectly to us. The soul has attachements with

these and when it observes that it is leaving all of

this,there is pain in the body for it,since through

which it has gained everything,the body, is being lost

or left forever.

 

The powerfull pull of death is on one side and try of

hold on body is another side.

 

Yogi or saints have already detached with these

bonds,which doesnt gives them pain they are

easily/pleaseantly relieved from physical body.

 

Liberated soul lives its existance from brahmarandhra

to never come back.

 

 

 

--- gaytrishandilya <no_reply> wrote:

 

> why people undergo pain at the time of death.

> Everyone has to face

> pain or there are some exceptions?

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> gs

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[Guest guest]

> --- gaytrishandilya <no_reply> wrote:

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> > why people undergo pain at the time of death.

> > Everyone has to face

> > pain or there are some exceptions?

 

 

Udai has beautifully explained the cause of pain at the time of

death. I would also like to add that as we know soul has five bodies

viz. physical body, pranic body, manomaya,vigyanmana, and anandmaya

body.

 

The Annmaya Kosha or physical body is attached to the other bodies

with the help of Pranic body The prana attach each cell of our body

and vibrate from physical to Other 3 bodies so fast that they work

as a stitiching of physical bodies with other 3 bodies.

 

The more we have attachement to our body and its related things,

the more the bonds is strong. Hence at the time of death, where

Manomaya etc.try to detach from physical body, the pranic stitches

painfully break...and hence the pain of 1000 scorpion bites felt at

the time of death.

 

The yogis less detachment with the body and physical things, they

feel lesser pain...or no pain at all.

 

Sometimes, like during accident and such sudden deaths, one does

not feel pain as the bodies separate in a wink.

 

love

 

baba