what is yoga ?

[Guest guest]

Dear prakki,

 

Lord Shri Dattaswamis approach is right with respect

to Bhakti concepts,Those who only chant "Aham

Brahmasmi" never go towards brahman.Its nothing but a

murmer of a mad person.

 

But if you study sankhya in "Lord Shri Krishna"s

words you will come to know what he is trying to say.

Lord Shri Datta swamiji whether mensioning anuthing on

"sankhya"?

 

I just indicated "Lord Shri Adi Shankaracharyas "

verses and his status in turiya which is relevent to

this method of attainment.

 

We have to understand "and not only chant" that we are

trully the brahman state which is said in gita,if we

choose the "sankhya" route of liberation.This is

acually Dnyan marg.If the intellect and mindset are

made to understand that what functions they are doing

are just material, the devinity gets exposed and these

attachments becomes detached from these bondings.Since

the attachments become a mechanical doings and

irrelevent to get attached to.

 

Lord Shri Adi Shankaracharyas one of the deceple had

attained samadhi in only three questions of "who am

i?"

Lord asked him three times who are you? and the

deceple was so focused that he entered into samadhi

status.Those who have the right focus can enter into

sankhya and get attainment just by doing their normal

work as said in gita.This is the Turiya status and The

turiya is experince part and not chanting or

conveinceing part.

 

Your answer chosen from "Lord Shri Datta Swamis "

preaches is either contraducting with "Lord shri

Krishnas" verses on "Sankhya Yoga".or you yourself are

denying the path which "Lord Shri Krishna " is saying.

 

Those who are prefering Bhakti yoga can not digest

this because this needs the "neti neti" (this is not

true,this is not true) methods applied all the time

(24X7).BHakti has beliefs on happenings while the

sankhya tores of beliefs.

 

Next==

 

For your kind information "Lord Shri Hanuman" has

himself chosen to be in his "slave bhakti "form until

the universe is collapsed.He is "chiranjivi." and he

can be very easily seen because of his availability

and his vayugati.

 

Additionally Its 100% guarranteed that if you chant

"shri ram jai ram jai jai ram" or " om shriram" at

least half an hour or an hour, he appears at that

place and helps the person to attain the purpose of

chating.His speed is so fast that before you have his

glimpse he is gone.

 

At devine level(in turiya status)the intelligence is

useless.Its experince of permanent pleasure. At this

level Rama=Krishna=Hanuman=Vishnu=Shiva=all gods in

turiya status=all sadgurus=all sadhaks in turiya

status.

 

When they return to their form, they are unequel

because of their form.The forms make them different in

intect,mindset and other attachments.

 

We are also equal to them provided we are reached at

turiya status like"Lord Shri Adi Shankaracharya" has

reached.

 

It was an example of "Lord Shri Shankaracharya".

 

"Hanuman " is my respected god because "Lord Shri

Ramdas Swami" who had sarupya mukti with him got

incarneted, in very recent centuries during "king

Shivaji" period,offered all of us those wonderfull

teachings of these times, which are helpfull in

material and spiritual world,There are other reasons

too about hanuman.

 

Everybod has choice to choose the route of attainment.

Lord Shri Hanuman has chosen "dasoham","slave bhakti"

That doesnt means he is not in turiya state,oly thing

is that he is existing and dint finished from universe

like "Lord Shri Patanjali, Lord Shri Goutam Budhdha,

Lord Shri Mahaveer,Lord shri Akrur, Lord Shri

janaka,Lord shri Adi Shankaracharya and many unkhowns"

You can not trace them in universe.

 

 

 

--- prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

 

Are you greater than Hanuman in any angle? Did He

> not know Aham Brahmasmi? Are you greater scholar

> than Hanuman, who always told Daasoham, which means

> that He is the servant of Rama, who is the then

> Human Incarnation? If you put these questions to

> yourself, your illusion of self-bond also

> disappears.

> posted by: His servant

> at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

> www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dears,

 

This reminds me as below,

 

Lord Shri Ramana Maharashi had no guru, Such people

dont need guru,who are truly have an urge of

realisation.Their is no question mark on Lord Shri

Ramana maharshi. This is very recent Example.

 

Next==

Once a Guru from other ashram in the nearby area of

our ashram came to meet our Guruji.He used to say

"Aham Brahmasmi",loudly during conversation with my

guruji.Since he was welknown to our guruji, my guruji

casually asked him, whether "Aham Brahmasmi" needs to

be said reminded frequently?, he said "yes. i forget

it sometimes."

 

Its matter of consideration how people take "Aham

Brahmasmi" .This was nothing more than just chanting

gods name.

 

Next==

Lord Shri Narada happened to travel from nearby place

where two persons who were doing sadhana saw him.

 

One of them was about 60 years old and regularly doing

sadhana,devotion, as per indicated is shashras.

 

Other one was aged for say 23-24.and just loving the

god and doing bhakti as per he think is okay.

 

When they saw Lord Shri Narada both of them were very

much interested to understand when they will be able

to see their god.

 

Lord Shri Narada saw at them and said the old

person,you have to take three more births and then you

will be able to see the god.As soon as the old person

heard this, he got very much angry on god and said

Lord Shro Narada, why three births, i have done so

much of in my life,i have suffered so much for him,i

left everything which i had, i all time saw and

observed that i should not perform the activities

which are told incorrect as per shashtras, i never

showed my angryness, I never did any ego on my

doings,i did everything as told ,but why this three

births ?why ?why?Lord Shri Narada just smiled and went

further.

 

The young man saw Lord and was ager to understand

about him also.Lord Shri Narada saw him and show him a

mango tree, which had plenty of leaves on it,He

said,Look at this tree,you have to take number of

births the number of leaves this tree has.

 

Immediately hearing this this young sadhak started

dancing like a mad, and said to Lord Shri

Narada,"Please say my thanks to God, he is so

humble,there are crores of trees on earth, yet he gave

me births only equal to this one tree leaves only.I

have no words than to thanks my god,I am so lucky",

 

The same time the young sadhak delivered his talk,god

appeared in fromnt of him, and offered him mukti.Lord

Shri Narada proceeded further.

 

I liked this event from Bhagvat Purana very much.

Is any explanation reqd?

 

Its irrelevent whether its sankhya or devotion, the

fakes are always beaten.

 

--- Tatwamasi <tatwamasi wrote:

 

they wouldn't need a teacher, would they?

 

Holding this goal of "Aham Brahmasmi" or "Shivoham" is

dangerous in the hands of those with temperaments

which are egotistical in nature.