what is yoga ?

[Guest guest]

Dear Babaji,

Meaning of both is same.

 

Only the words are different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

> Shri Krishna says in Gita "Yogaha Karamshcha

> Kaushlam" whereas

> Patanjali tells "Yogaha Vritti-shch Niruddham"

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> Is shri Krishna contradicting what Patanjali

> wrote about Yoga...?

> what can be a true definition of Yoga.

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[Guest guest]

, "udaykumar S.K." <udaykumar001

wrote:

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> Dear Babaji,

> Meaning of both is same.

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> Only the words are different.

 

Zara khol kar samjhao bhai...on one side it says..No vritti is

Yoga..and krishna says..doing work efficiently is Yoga...both are

aparently opposite

 

love

baba

[Guest guest]

Dear babaji,

 

Bhai,pura padho na,

 

This verse is from "Sankhya" one of the 17 paths told

by "Lord Shri krishna",

 

The meaning of this verse is "those who do work with

equality (endowed with spiritual intelligence)

(samabudhdhi and atmanatma viveka)in both good and bad

karmas.This work attached with knowledge of self

permanenet atman (the truth of the "aham" )becomes

yoga (by /off skillfull work).(in simpliefied way we

can say that those who understand who "i am", will

never get involved mentally in the process of the

material things,since these are not permanent,they

will remain in pleasure state and let the work(routine

jobs or religious doings) happen with their involment.

only until the work is over.=50

 

Very next verse says,

Do work with intellect but leave fruits by mind, by

this they be freed from deaths and births and will go

towards permenent status.=51

 

It also says "karmanyevadhikaraste" do work without

expecting fruits means what?you should not have

greed,which is one cause of karma creation, and work

without expectation,so that mind is freed from the

thoughts and further impressions the

"chittasanskaras",

are stopped.

 

The sankhya is understanding the truth of atman which

is permanent and never dying.This atman only changes

body as clothes.Under sankhya we have to understand

that we have only to perform our duty irrespective of

the desires of the outcoming results.The mental post

involments is not nessessary.This post-involvement

creates chittasanskaras.

 

Lord says understand the permanent and temperary and

dont get thoughtly(internally) involved in the karma's

final results,always be in understanding of your true

nature.This doesnt mean you work without thoughts.Do

the work with all of your intellect and mind, but

forget what will you get out of it.

 

This is spiritual method.He says do you duties

properly so that they wont remains incomplete and

creat chitta sanskaras.This ultimately indicated the

"chittasanskaras"the impressions, should not be

formed.

 

Lord Shri Krishna is saying how they can be stopped.He

knows arjunas situation and making it more and more

simplified by telling him many of the methods which

will bring his courage back to battle.

 

While Lord Shri Patanjali is methodical,direct and

focussed and has a single path of attainment.

 

he says these chittasanskaras are the obstacles and

the samadhi(the status of nullification) can be

attained by sidetracking these chittavruttis.

 

Both of them are related to chittasanskaras, only at

face they seems to be different.

 

Lord krishna is not saying doing work efficiently,He

is saying doing work under samatvabudhdhi,equality and

totality, will be a a yoga by skillfull work.

 

Tasmat Yogay yujyaswa Yogaha karmasu Koushalam

Attached with that becomes Yoga of skillful work.

 

verse 51 itself is an answer.

 

 

 

--- Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

 

Zara khol kar samjhao bhai...on one side it

> says..No vritti is

> Yoga..and krishna says..doing work efficiently is

> Yoga...both are

> aparently opposite

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> love

> baba

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[Guest guest]

Dear babaji,

 

The sankhya further reminded me of "Nirvan Shatak" by

Lord Shri Adi Shankaracharya"

 

The meaning as belwo,

 

(Manobudhdhichittani Ahankar naham)

I am neither the mind,Intelligence, ego nor chitta.

Neither the ears, the tongue,Nor the senses of smell

and sight.Neither ether nor air.

I am chidanand(permanent pleasure)roopam Shiva and

shiva only

 

I am neither the prana,Nor the five vital breaths.

Neither the seven elements of the body,Nor its five

sheaths,Nor hands, nor feet, nor tongue,Nor other

organ of action.

 

I am chidanand(permanent pleasure)roopam Shiva and

shiva only

 

Neither fear, greed, delusion,Loathing, nor liking

have I.Nothing of pride, or ego,Or dharma or

liberation.Neither desire of the mind,

Nor object of its desiring.

 

I am chidanand(permanent pleasure)roopam Shiva and

shiva only

 

Nothing of pleasure or pain,Or virtue or vice, do I

know.Of manta, of sacred place,Of Vedas or sacrifice.

Neither I am the eater,The food or the act of eating.

 

I am chidanand(permanent pleasure)roopam Shiva and

shiva only

 

Fear or death, I have none,Nor any distincton of

caste.

Neither father nor mother,Not even a birth, have I.

Neither friend, nor comrade.Neither disciple, nor

Guru.

 

I am chidanand(permanent pleasure)roopam Shiva and

shiva only

 

I have no form or fancy.The All-pervading am I.

Everywhere I exist,Yet I am beyond the senses.

Neither salvation am I,Nor anything to be known.

 

I am chidanand(permanent pleasure)roopam Shiva and

shiva only

 

Under this status any impression is possible?When a

person gets confirmed by this knowledge, he does his

work properly but doesnt get flown away with the

thought and mental involvement,since he is not mind

nor intelligence.THis atman is beyond the material

senses and the understanding should be deep,so that

the sankhya becomes yoga.

 

This is the status of nirodham of chittavruttis, as

Lord Shri Patanjali said,and repeated by Lord Shri

Krishna in different words.

 

 

 

> --- Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

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