Ancient civilisation and mathematics

[Guest guest]

This email has circulated many a time and the list of historic

achievements has certainly been a source of pride about our past

glory.

 

I often wonder with such an phenomenal gene pool, what the heck

happened today? Where did the sickness of corruption and

irresponsible unethical behavior come from? If one could have

continued the historical trend, there should have been innumerable

Nobel Prizes for cutting edge innovations and research going to

India today.

 

I wish experts would also come up with practical plans to nurture

that huge pool of genius that appears to be laying dormant somewhere

within the culture!!!

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

, Pure Conscious <pureconscious>

wrote:

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> Ancient Hindu civilisation and mathematics

> By Dr R.N. Das

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> The ancient Hindu sages discovered the miracles of

> modern scientific tools. Believe it or not, the

> following are the glorious examples of them.

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/history/history5.shtml

The Aryan invasion theory denies the Indian origin of

India's predominant culture, but gives the credit for

Indian culture to invaders from elsewhere.

 

it gave a historical precedent to justify the role and

status of the British Raj, who could argue that they

were transforming India for the better in the same way

that the Aryans had done thousands of years earlier

 

it downgraded the intellectual status of India and its

people by giving a falsely late date to elements of

Indian science and culture

 

 

The Aryan Invasion Theory

One of the most controversial ideas about Hindu

history is the Aryan invasion theory.

 

This theory, originally devised by F. Max Muller in

1848, traces the history of Hinduism to the invasion

of India's indigenous people by lighter skinned Aryans

around 1500 BCE.

 

The theory was reinforced by other research over the

next 120 years, and became the accepted history of

Hinduism, not only in the West but in India.

 

There is now ample evidence to show that Muller, and

those who followed him, were wrong.

 

Why is the theory no longer accepted?

The Aryan invasion theory was based on archaeological,

linguistic and ethnological evidence.

 

Later research has either discredited this evidence,

or provided new evidence that combined with the

earlier evidence makes other explanations more likely.

 

Modern historians of the area no longer believe that

such invasions had such great influence on Indian

history. It's now generally accepted that Indian

history shows a continuity of progress from the

earliest times to today.

 

The changes brought to India by other cultures are not

denied by modern historians, but they are no longer

thought to be a major ingredient in the development of

Hinduism.

 

Dangers of the theory

The Aryan invasion theory denies the Indian origin of

India's predominant culture, but gives the credit for

Indian culture to invaders from elsewhere.

 

It even teaches that some of the most revered books of

Hindu scripture are not actually Indian, and it

devalues India's culture by portraying it as less

ancient than it actually is.

 

The theory was not just wrong, it included

unacceptably racist ideas:

 

it suggested that Indian culture was not a culture in

its own right, but a synthesis of elements from other

cultures

it implied that Hinduism was not an authentically

Indian religion but the result of cultural imperialism

 

it suggested that Indian culture was static, and only

changed under outside influences

it suggested that the dark-skinned Dravidian people of

the South of India had got their faith from

light-skinned Aryan invaders

it implied that indigenous people were incapable of

creatively developing their faith

it suggested that indigenous peoples could only

acquire new religious and cultural ideas from other

races, by invasion or other processes

it accepted that race was a biologically based concept

(rather than, at least in part, a social construct)

that provided a sensible way of ranking people in a

hierarchy, which provided a partial basis for the

caste system

it provided a basis for racism in the Imperial context

by suggesting that the peoples of Northern India were

descended from invaders from Europe and so racially

closer to the British Raj

it gave a historical precedent to justify the role and

status of the British Raj, who could argue that they

were transforming India for the better in the same way

that the Aryans had done thousands of years earlier

it downgraded the intellectual status of India and its

people by giving a falsely late date to elements of

Indian science and culture

 

--- Tatwamasi <tatwamasi wrote:

 

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>

> This email has circulated many a time and the list

> of historic

> achievements has certainly been a source of pride

> about our past

> glory.

>

>

[Guest guest]

In > "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi wrote:

 

I often wonder with such an phenomenal gene pool, what the heck

> happened today? Where did the sickness of corruption and

> irresponsible unethical behavior come from?

 

 

I agree 100% with Uma's comments. I think it is the political expediancy

that is hurting our Hindu culture. The poiticians' main pas-time is to

gather more and more votes by hook or by crook, to stay in power and thereby

allow the country go to the dogs. When politicians like Lalu are ruling the

country, who themselves are corrupt and irresponsible, it's no wonder that

India is becoming unethical more and more. I believe that the "corruption

culture turns humans into vultures like behaviour" and as a result the most

people working in the government are prepared to put the general public to

maximum harrasment in stead of helping them.

 

One of the things we lack in India is salesmanship. Americans are expert in

salesmanship. The success of Hare Krishna movement worldwide is due to the

involvement of American devotees and their use of modern sales techniques.

Also our younger generation in India like to copy American cutoms.

Therefore, the Hindu culture has to be exported to the US first and then

brought back home to be made acceptable to the Youth and our pliticians of

India. This is my belief and to an extent it is already happening.

 

radhakuti

OM

[Guest guest]

You are right Radhakuti. Its mere salesmanship. If you notice, using just one

book (bible), how much conversions are taking place all over the world and how

orgainsed it is. Just go through this site http://www.joshuaproject.net/.

 

The british and their historians found out the aryan invasion theory to keep

their supremacy for ever and we still intake that and teach the same to the

next generation. Even paying Jaziya (tax) in own land, our forefathers tried to

save the culture against the flow of time. Now its in our hand. Its is also our

duty to transfer the knowledge to others. Everybody wants to take from that

land(india) and destroy it, but not interested to give. In the name of a

foreign religion, that sacred land had got cut into pieces.

 

Even there are many people in india still believe that its British who united

India. But thousands of years Indians throughout the land sang a hymn to

extoll the sacred rivers.

 

gange ca yamune caiva, godAvari sarasvati

narmade sindho kAveri, jale'sminn sannidhiM kuru

 

If we just try to know that where there rivers are, we will understand that

india is not the creation of british. They didn't create anything but only

destroyed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

radhakutir <radhaktr wrote:

In > "Tatwamasi" wrote:

 

I often wonder with such an phenomenal gene pool, what the heck

> happened today? Where did the sickness of corruption and

> irresponsible unethical behavior come from?

 

 

I agree 100% with Uma's comments. I think it is the political expediancy

that is hurting our Hindu culture. The poiticians' main pas-time is to

gather more and more votes by hook or by crook, to stay in power and thereby

allow the country go to the dogs. When politicians like Lalu are ruling the

country, who themselves are corrupt and irresponsible, it's no wonder that

India is becoming unethical more and more. I believe that the "corruption

culture turns humans into vultures like behaviour" and as a result the most

people working in the government are prepared to put the general public to

maximum harrasment in stead of helping them.

 

One of the things we lack in India is salesmanship. Americans are expert in

salesmanship. The success of Hare Krishna movement worldwide is due to the

involvement of American devotees and their use of modern sales techniques.

Also our younger generation in India like to copy American cutoms.

Therefore, the Hindu culture has to be exported to the US first and then

brought back home to be made acceptable to the Youth and our pliticians of

India. This is my belief and to an extent it is already happening.

 

radhakuti

OM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, radhakutir <radhaktr wrote:

 

> One of the things we lack in India is salesmanship. Americans are

expert in

> salesmanship. The success of Hare Krishna movement worldwide is

>due to the involvement of American devotees and their use of modern

>sales techniques.

>

 

 

Does it not also depend on how we define success? Is it numbers or

money? Or is it how many make a commitment to understand and live

the truths of the path? According to just numbers Islam is the

fastest growing religion in the world!!! Christianity with its

policy of conversions is in a race for domination too.

 

In terms of practitioners, I feel Sanatan Dharm has spread beyond

what we really know, specially outside its birthplace. Gurus have

gone far and wide across the world taking the message of practice

and those who have been touched by it, practice it to the best of

their ability. Disciples of the Gurus here in the US, are involved

in sincere deep practice at their levels.

 

Also, you are right in speaking of marketing techniques. If a

product needs to be marketed what is it that one looks for? A need,

or creating a need, reviewing one's product, making it user

understandable, identifiable, and being willing to honestly look at

its internal problems. Will consumers buy a product from a company

with internal problems and contradictions? Not usually. in fact the

stock will fall at the slight mention of a scandal.

 

The market has forced even the dinasour of the Catholic Church to

address serious issues which it has ignored and swept under the

carpet for so long. If they had addressed it earlier internally,

they wouldn't have had to go through the marketing mess it is going

through now. (Watch a movie "Brother Sun Sister Moon" to see some

unsucessful attempts at change.)

 

Anyone seen Rang de Basanti? A bunch of young boys, cynical and

frustrated at the social, political system, dragged into it anyway,

and realizing the importance of taking appropriate responsiblity,

each individual at their own level.

 

Sanatan Dharm is the only faith that categorically lays the

responsibility for both individual and collective past, present and

future entirely on the shoulders of the individual/s.

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma