Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 On this day of Thanksgiving in the US, I take this opportunity to offer thanks to all in our group for their presence, contribution and good energies in our satsangh. No matter how transient material life is, each moment determines the next step, the Present Moment exists in all its glory - with its ups and downs, the relationships, the teachers, the detractors, the "successes" and "failures", the blessings we "have" or what has been taken back. This Present Moment is our chariot and our Kurukshetra, all combined. Even though this chariot has to disintegrate at the end of the "war", right now at this Present Moment we have to ride it, and ride it well. For this Present Moment containing all transient but real part of my journey, I give thanks. May you all be showered with blessings, and receive all the joys you wish. A question for our experts. Aside from peace prayers, most that I have read are usually asking for more and more .. whether its more enlightenment or more stuff, or glorifying the various deities and their energies. Are their any prayers for Gratitute in Sanatan Dharm? _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I got no response for my question. So do I take it that in Hinduism we have no prayers of thanks? , "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote: > >. > > A question for our experts. Aside from peace prayers, most that I > have read are usually asking for more and more .. whether its more > enlightenment or more stuff, or glorifying the various deities and > their energies. Are their any prayers for Gratitute in Sanatan Dharm? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I'm glad some people around the the globe believe in the power of Gratitude. Check out www.GiveMeTheMasterKey.com , "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote: > > I got no response for my question. So do I take it that in Hinduism we > have no prayers of thanks? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 , "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi wrote: > > > > A question for our experts. Aside from peace prayers, most that I > have read are usually asking for more and more .. whether its more > enlightenment or more stuff, or glorifying the various deities and > their energies. Are their any prayers for Gratitute in Sanatan Dharm? > > _/\_ Tat twam asi > > Uma Very good observation...yess i do not recall that we have any thanksgiving in our prayers..Most of our Aartis, bhajans, hymns either praise the God or most of them are begging this thing or that..even most of the Richas of vedas ask for more rain more milk, children, wealth.... Sikhs I have seen saying "Vahe Guru Tera shukar hai"...on every gain...they thank god at every moment. Only Tagore's songs are full of thanks and gratitude for god. I think it will be a very good sadhna to sit quietly for some time...count our blessings and thank god to have given us this opportunity to enjoy his universe...or to become his tool in this world. There are thousands of things to THANK HIM...but we like eteral beggars..do not count the blessings and only blame him for the shortcomings...and always begging more and more from him. who knows...this begging be the tool for evolution !!! but still poor God must be waiting for "Ahobhava" or gratitude or thanks...from us. baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Also amazing that this is the first respose to my question! Is it that Sanatan Dharma is essentially a selfish, self centered religion or that selfish self centered, selfish people have taken control of informaton dessimination for the lay person? I know the reasoning about one has to work on oneself which triggers changes in our world. (The world is as we are!)But at the same time the power of gratitude to chop of the ego is ruthless, and I am surprised at its apparent absence! _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma , "Baba ji" <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > Very good observation...yess i do not recall that we have any > thanksgiving in our prayers..Most of our Aartis, bhajans, hymns > either praise the God or most of them are begging this thing or > that..even most of the Richas of vedas ask for more rain more milk, > children, wealth.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 , "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi wrote: > > Is it that Sanatan Dharma is essentially a selfish, self centered > religion or that selfish self centered, selfish people have taken > control of informaton dessimination for the lay person? -- very harsh and judgmental views about Sanatan Dhaarma !!!. It is not neccesarily "selfish", and self centeredness when we do not thank !!! A mother does not need thanks from her children for keeping them in the womb...or for breast-feeding them. I do not really know why this aspect was kept away from our prayers..but it certainly had some purpose, otherwise our rishis who have reached such great hights and explored such depths of the psychology of living beings, could not possibly have forgotton it. Perhaps thanking is a westerner idea, to be more formal and to look more civilised. All other religions prepare God fearing lot, whereas Sanatan Dharma prepare God Loving persons. It may be possible that our rishis left this deliberately out and asked us to demand more and more...so that dissatisfication is always alive in us...and perhaps this dis-satisfication..would be used to reach the highest of realms. Or perhaps they left it to the individual...to understand the Tantra of Universe...and have an inner thankfulness for the System to have given us so much !!! After all the real Thanks would be the one which will arise from within....not as mere words...formal words as used in the West. with love Baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 We all know that Sanatan Dharm, as we see it presented, has gone through ups and downs, and through that journey evolved into a message appropriate for its time (Yuga). Because the Dharm is secure in its roots and origins, it is not afraid of looking at itself, and evolving according to needs appropriate to the times aka consciousness. That is the strength and beauty of Sanatan Dharm, and that is why it is perhaps the most revered, though not always understood, faith in the world today. So the question of harsh and judgemental is misplaced. Thank you for attempting to addressing the probable reasons for this aspect that APPEARS to be missing. APPEARS because it MAY be only an appearance, because it is possible that it has been left out by those in control of the dessimination of popular religion. Every relationship has two sides. In your example the mother is doing her duty by feeding her child. She brought the child into the world. At the same time the child has a duty, to at least feel the gratutude which may be expressed in a variety of ways. Each party in a relationship especially this one, has a dharm and that is exalted in no faith more than in Sanatan Dharm. Gratitude also assists in the process of learning humility. Spiritual arrogance, material arrogance is an obstacle in the path of all, where the ego is desperately attempting to survive, by claiming control of the journey. Thanksgiving/ gratitude is a small tool that can be used very effectively to help chisel away at this "i" which stands in the way of experiecng the complete Truth of who we are. As far as mere words, anything anywhere can become that. My favorite exapmple is the parroting of chants and prayers and words by rote, clueless about its experiential meaning, beacuse one hasn't bothered to actually put it to practice and make it one's own. Its interesting to see again and again how people become quiet when we get away from quotes and lectures, and attempt to bring focus onto how we are personally experiencing our journey, a far less secure place to be when we are not hiding under the words of Gurus and texts. I am constantly reminded of one of my teachers from Swami Chimayanandajis ashram where she commented on the lack of participation in a discussion. She said, 'it takes actual practice and application for one to have questions, opinions and thoughts. Mere listening to my lectures, and saying how great I am is of no use!" But now I am beginning to see, that perhaps its a question of time and readiness. When we are ready, we will move on. _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma , "Baba ji" <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > very harsh and judgmental views about Sanatan Dhaarma !!!. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 In , "Tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote: Are their any prayers for Gratitude in Santana Dharma? Yes of course we do have "Thanks Giving" but without slitting the throat of dumb fellow creatures and without feasting on the dead Turkeys. Here are some examples: Let us first consider surrender, it takes various forms, shapes, and attitudes depending upon the evolution of one's soul, but the ultimate surrender is God Realization, where one becomes One with Him after surrendering every thing. Similarly the best and the highest form of gratitude is remembering the Lord before undertaking any auspicious work. Most people would or should think of the Lord, for example, before eating food. Most Ashrams chant some prayers glorifying the Lord before serving Lunch, dinner etc. Vedic way of life or Santana Dharma is nothing but glorifying the Lord, from birth till death, in one way or another, through various Vedic rituals. A child is born, there is a ritual, someone getting married, there are rituals, someone dies, there are rituals. All these rituals involve the remembrance of the Lord, in one form or another, which is the highest form of gratitude. Lord provides all necessities of life like, air, fire, water etc. and that too free of cost, therefore the best form of gratitude is to remember Him at all times, for all he has provided to us including life to enjoy or suffer! Another way to put it is to say, Have an Isvara Arpana Buddhi and Parsad Buddhi, meaning whatever we get in life, offer it to the Lord first and then put into use as his Prasad (Gift). What can be a better way of gratitude than living in God consciousness at all times. Vedas is a manual of life that teaches us how to live a life of God Consciousness at all times. God Bless radhakutir OM ****************************************************************************** Know the Lord to be the only real thing in the midst of things unreal. Remember God.Take His name always. Meditate upon Him. Feel His presence everywhere. Surrender yourself to Him. He will bless you with peace, bliss, plenty, prosperity and immortality. ----Swami Sivananda ******************************************************************************** Please visit our website on Vedanta: http://www.geocities.com/radhakutir and also http://www.geocities.com/vedicfoundation ******************************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Thank you for your response Radha Kutir ji _/\_ >>> question for our experts. Aside from peace prayers, most that I have read are usually asking for more and more .. whether its more enlightenment or more stuff, or glorifying the various deities and their energies. Are their any prayers for Gratitute in Sanatan Dharm?>> /message/7479 My question was whether there are prayers amongst our multitudes of texts that deal specifically with gratitude. So far I haven't recieved any, either from members here or from my Indian community in real life. This is not to say it doesn't exist, but I haven't been able to find any, and none here have been able to assist. Of course it doesn't limit anyone, because communication with "God" is personal. Expressing gratitude by living a life of truth or praising the Lord, is prescribed by all faiths. The sincerity or hypocricy of followers wasn't my query. As I read some of our older messages by our members, I see some very beautiful expressions of gratitude as they experience it. As far as "slitting throats" of turkeys or goats, its a whole different issue, and is aways open for discussion. _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma , radhakutir <radhaktr wrote: > > Are their any prayers for Gratitude in Santana Dharma? > > > Yes of course we do have "Thanks Giving" but without slitting the throat of > dumb fellow creatures and without feasting on the dead Turkeys. Here are > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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