Why does existence Come out of God and why is it called The Mother

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Dear Ashish,

 

Hare Krishna. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila

Prabhupada. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga.

 

Thank you for taking the time to write to me. You have made many claims and

declarations in your message but sad to say have not quoted any authority to

substantiate all your statements. So it is more or less dogmatic. If different

people put different dogmatic views about religion and its essentials who is to

be accepted and who not to be? Therefore the approach shall be and must be

authoritative, scientific and universal. Your delineations do not conform at all

to such technical approach but merely based on mental speculation. That is my

main contention. If you have time to discuss on them I shall be glad to

corroborate my contentions as far as possible. My basis of arguments will be

from the Bhagavad-gita which is considered as the most authoritative, scientific

and universal. To summarise the conclusions of Bhagavad-gita it may be said

that,

 

1) God is one and everything is in Him and He is in everything.

 

2) To render transcendental service unto God is to serve everything that be,

just like to water the root of the tree is to water the different branches and

numerous leaves of the tree or to supply food to the stomach is to vitalize all

the senses and the sense organs of the body.

 

3) The parts are automatically served when the Whole is served but when the

parts are served the whole may not be served or not served at all.

 

4) The parts and the Whole being eternally related, it is the eternal duty of

the parts to render service unto the Whole.

 

5) A recipient of the services of the parts, God's sat-cit-ananda vigraha i.e.

the all-attractive Cognizant and all-blissful Personality eternal. He can reveal

Himself by His own potency without any help of the external potency called maya

in order to be cognizable by the limited potency of the parts and as such He is

not only the greatest of all but he is the smallest of all. That is His

prerogative.

 

6) He is better realized when He by His causeless mercy agrees to descend in

this mortal world but he He is never realized by the partial speculations of the

empiric philosophers however systematic and long-termed it may be.

 

7) Sri Krishna is the Personality of Godhead and is the Summum Bonum Cause of

all Causes proved by fact and figures in the statement of Bhagavad-gita, but He

reserves the right of not being exposed to the sensual speculations of the

empiric philosophers.

 

8) One should therefore surrender unto Him if one wants to know Him as He is and

that is the real process to approach the Infinite by the infinitesimals.

 

9) Sri Krishna is easily available by the religion of love i.e. by love and

service as conceived by the damsels of Vraja who had practically no education

whatsoever and much less any claim for high class birth right.

 

10) The highest service that can be rendered to mankind is, therefore, to preach

the philosophy and religion of Bhagavad-gita for all the times, at all places

and all the people.

 

 

 

Our founder-acarya, Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada often used to say,

¡ÈReligion without philosophy is sentiment, or sometimes fanaticism, while

philosophy without religion is mental speculation.¡É Therefore any religion

without a scientific, philosophical understanding of God is simply sentiment. It

is not religion. And philosophy without religion is simply mental speculation.

In other words, that philosophy which does not answer the ultimate

questions—What is the Absolute Truth? What is God? What is my duty towards

Him?—is useless. Religion and philosophy should be combined so that we can

scientifically understand who is God, what is our relationship with God, what is

our duty toward God, and so on.

 

>From its beginning the Srimad-Bhagavatam kicks out all so-called cheating

religions and presents bhagavat-tattva-vijnana, the genuine science of God. This

science has to be studied, it has to be practiced, and it has to be realized.

ISKCON is presenting this scientific understanding of God as Krishna

consciousness. It is not for the sentimentalists but for those who are serious

about perfecting their lives.

 

It is not so easy to reach perfection and understand Sri Krishna. As Krishna

Himself states in the Bhagavad-gita [bg. 7.3],

 

manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye

 

yatatam api siddhanam kascin mam vetti tattvatah

 

"Out of many thousands of men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who

have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth."

 

Attaining scientific knowledge of the Personality of Godhead means seeing one's

own self simultaneously. As far as the identity of the living being as spirit

self is concerned, there are a number of speculations and misgivings. The

materialist does not believe in the existence of the spirit self, and empiric

philosophers believe in the impersonal feature of the whole spirit without

individuality of the living beings. But the transcendentalists affirm that the

soul and the Supersoul are two different identities, qualitatively one but

quantitatively different. There are many other theories, but all these different

speculations are at once cleared off as soon as Sri Krishna is realized in truth

by the process of bhakti-yoga. Sri Krishna is like the sun, and the

materialistic speculations about the Absolute Truth are like the darkest

midnight. As soon as the Krishna sun is arisen within one's heart, the darkness

of materialistic speculations about the Absolute Truth and the living beings

is at once cleared off. In the presence of the sun, the darkness cannot stand,

and the relative truths that were hidden within the dense darkness of ignorance

become clearly manifested by the mercy of Krishna, who is residing in everyone's

heart as the Supersoul.

 

In the Bhagavad-gita (10.11) the Lord says that in order to show special favor

to His pure devotees He personally eradicates the dense darkness of all

misgivings by switching on the light of pure knowledge within the heart of a

devotee. Therefore, because of the Personality of Godhead's taking charge of

illuminating the heart of His devotee, certainly a devotee, engaged in His

service in transcendental love, cannot remain in darkness. He comes to know

everything of the absolute and the relative truths.

 

Due to the speculative process there are so many flaws and misconceptions in

your message viz cosmology, wheel of time, vedic conclusions etc. If you are

interested in getting a better understanding on such transcendental matters I am

more than willing to discuss further with you. That in my opinion would be more

beneficial to mankind.

 

Your servant,

 

…….. dasa

 

Dear Maharaj,

 

Hare Krishna.Please accept my humble obeisances.

 

If different people put different dogmatic views about religion and its

essentials, who is to be accepted and who not to be? Therefore the approach

shall be and must be based on individual Experience and acceptance by the

Intellect.

 

It is true as God says that If the seed, is watered, the whole Tree is

benefited. But if our attention goes only to the leaves, then Service never take

place

 

From childhood we have been made to think that God is all pervading at all

circumstances.

 

Vaishnavs, the followers of Krishna also believe God is all pervading, within

all human beings.

 

Adi Sankarachariar through whom Advaita philosophy and Sanyas Religion was

established also proved God is all pervading and has defeated so many well known

scholars of Different Philosphies.

 

Politicaians have also said we can see God in Poor peoples happiness

 

All Hindu religion also says God is all pervading and tell the story that God

appeared from the pillar to save his devotee.

 

They also believe different persons with good qualities (Devtas) as God. Many

believe Krishna as God.

 

All saints also believe that God is present in all living creatures.

 

Even Yogis say that God is light which is all pervading

 

Every one has experienced something based on their belief and had made their

belief so strong that only a miracle can make them understand what really Truth

is.

 

If we see the common feature appearing in all the above philosophy, it is all

were said by human beings by their Limited Intellect.

 

On the other hand, we can say that Jesus Christ says Our Father is One, Guru

Nanak has said God is One. Prophet Mohammed has said God is One.Angels revealed

through Prophet Mohammed in Quran that God is One. And many place it is also

said that God is light. God is all Knowing.

 

If we see the scriptures which contains only the words of Angels like Quran and

few works of olden days, we can see that nowhere it would have been said God is

all pervading.

 

When it is said Light (Energy) is all pervading. Yes it is true that Light is

all pervading. All living beings and Non living beings are made of Light. The

only difference is The light of Non living beings are destructible and Light of

living being is non-destructible.But if we say God is light and since light is

all pervading, God is also all pervading, it is called ignorance.

 

It is said God is all Knowing. Yes He is all knowing. Even we human beings are

all knowing with respect to earth. We come to know about things happening all

around the world. Since we know all the happenings around the world, we cannot

say that we are present all over the world.

 

Soul is present in all living beings. And soul is all powerful. It consists of

Mind, Intellect and Sanskars. If we are pure, we can do wonders with the help of

Soul power. You would have heard people bend keys just by using their mind power

gazing at the keys. Soul size is one millionth size of a tip of the hair thats

what Hindu Scripture says and everyone agree with this. The size of a soul in

ants body, elephants body and human body is very very tiny and all have

souls. But like a seed of Mango give rise to only Mango tree, souls of animals

will born as animals only, souls of human beings will be born as human beings

only. Since all powerful soul is present in all living beings which are

indestructible, we cannot say that God is present in all living beings.

 

If we read Quran one place it is said about Jesus that, before crucifixion of

Jesus, Jesus was taken to my abode Gods place. If God is all pervading, that

sentence will not give meaning.at all. That sentence indirectly means that God

is residing at a fixed place.(What God says about Jesus Christ? God says that

Jesus is an ordinary person and Christ was the soul which was present in the

body of Jesus to establish Christianism. The words spoken by Jesus to Forgive

the souls who act without their knowledge while in the cross, was in fact,

spoken by the Christ, who spoke those words during capturing of Jesus. The soul

of Christ left the body of Jesus when Jews Captured Jesus, saying those words of

forgiveness.)

 

And if you have read hadees you can read that during early morning, God comes

to the earth to give blessings to the prayers performed by the Muslims during

early morning hours. This also shows that God is an individual entity which is

not present everywhere but who is an individual who can move from one place to

another.

 

And above all, human mind works in a way that it can write or give explanation

only based on its past experience or visions, it had seen or experienced. Human

beings can have experience of things only they have seen and experienced in the

earth.

 

Since God lives in a separate world and no person with a human body and ordinary

intellect can go and survey the land of God, human being cannot give an accurate

details of God and His actions. A theory created by one person or experience

felt by a person can be explained accurately only by that particular person.

Others can give explanation about others experience but it will be limited to

that particular persons knowledge and experience.

 

So God says, to give introduction about me in an accurate way, I myself have to

come down to explain you about me, the creation, past, present and future. No

human beings in this world whoever it may be whether a Yogi, Sanyasi, Guru, no

one can understand the World Cycle or about God with their limited intellect.

 

So God Himself come and give His introduction as follows:

 

1) Human souls are of smallest in size like stars point of light which

cannot be seen by eyes and God is also a point of light

 

2) Like Human soul has got Mind, Intellect and all their previous birth

habits (Sanskars) in their soul (like nowadays smallest computer chip consists

billions of information), God too have Mind, Intellect and Habits (sanskars)

stored in His soul.

 

3) Since Human soul takes birth in to human body maximum 84 times in one

kalpa, soul gets degraded with sins because of body consciousness. But God never

takes birth in to human beings and never come in to conscious of body, so His

habits are ever pure and He is very powerful that He is Ocean of Knowledge,

Ocean of Mercy,

 

4) God says if I too come and take birth, who will make you pure. So He

never takes birth.

 

5) God says I never give sorrow to anyone. God gives only happiness by

making us follow the path by which we become Happy.

 

6) All sorrows in this world are because we forgot that we are soul with

good qualities like Devtas and became conscious of body and started indulging in

vices sins.

 

7) All the destruction that is going to take place is only because the

earth has been burdened with sins of human beings and nature has to clean up now

that a new world will be created by purifying all human beings. Gods role here

is only to prepare human beings equal to His Godly nature, so that, they will

only occupy the Heaven, which is going to be established, after destruction.

 

8) God says Human beings have created lot of sins by saying God is present

everywhere in Stones, wastes, etc., He asks us if someone says that you are in

Dogs, Cats, Pigs, how do you feel? Will we feel happy hearing that I am a dog,

cat etc.,

 

9) God asks, How a pure thing can present in an impure creature or impure

place. If God is present everywhere, then everything should be of utmost purity.

 

10) If God is present in you and me how people can fight each other

 

11) If God is present everywhere, how all this destruction can take place, in

the presence of God, due to sins.

 

12) If God is present everywhere How he can allow bad things to take place in

this world. Can anything untoward incidents take place in front of or in the

presence of King or even Prime ministers or any VIP.

 

13) He also says that Different religion says Krishna is God, Rama is God

etc.,If really God has come, immediately after that there should be Happiness

and Peace in this World. But we can see whoever is considered as God, had come,

done their preaching and left to see only more unhappiness and more

peacelessness.. God says I come only at the end of the Kalpa when the sins are

accumulated to the maximum extent and during people suffer a lot. He will come

and purify us, show us the path to Peace and Happiness and immediately after

that a world of Peace and Happiness will be established in Earth.

 

14) God says This happenings in the world is like a Drama and God Himself is

also playing His role, at the time the world will be cleaned of all sins and

Heaven will be established in this Earth.

 

15) God says peple do fasting, in fact fasting has to be done for our bad

natures, habits so that we will be purified.

 

16) God says, people sacrifice Goat, in actual sacrifice to be made of our ego,

I, (In Hindi I is called Mei, like Goat say Mei..Mei..)

 

17) Like every action has got opposite and equal reaction, whatever we suffer

is the reaction of what sins we have performed earlier, may be in previous

births. God has got nothing to do with our individual immoral actions.

 

18) God says I do not have a body. I am a point of light. But to give knowledge

to His Children of the world, He requires Mouth to speak. So He takes help of

Brahma Baba body as a loan and He gives Knowledge.

 

19) All human body is consists of a soul of point of light situated at middle

of eyebrow, then there is angelic body similar to that of a body. This Angelic

body is of form of light with the shape of body. This body of light is very

bright for people with pure thoughts and dark for people with impure or negative

thoughts. Basically it is a body made of our thoughts. Then there is physical

body. God is only a point of light. So He needs Angelic body as well as Physical

body for His role to be played in this Earth.

 

20) God says Gita is not revealed by Krishna. Saints who come after Satyug and

Treta yug could see the visions of kalpa all the yugs of the world in their

mind in a distorted manner ( like Nostradaumus).So they mixed all the activities

of different Yugs and wrote scriptures. Since Saints are not aware of God, but

since they knew that Value based teachings were practiced by few at the end of

Kalpa, they wrote in the scriptures that Gita, the words of God is spoken by

Krishna, the 100% pure human being with good qualities, who comes in Heaven,

Satyug.

 

21) The activities of this world is only a Drama. Like we play a Video Movie

cassette repeatedly, everything will be repeated as it is again and again every

5000 years.

 

Although soul topic is not dealt in few religion, Importance is given on

worship of God remembrance of God. If really we remember God, we will actually

be in conscious of Soul.

 

We can become soul conscious, by remembering God or we remember God and

naturally we become soul conscious.

 

And Importance is also given for Peace. Prophet Mohammed always preached Peace

by saying Assalamu alaikkum. Peace be upon you. If we are really at peace, it

means we are in conscious of soul. Our real nature of soul is Peace. And if we

are really in soul conscious, Gods remembrance will be natural.

 

God says, If we think our self as a soul and remember God our sins will be

destroyed. Otherwise we have to destroy our sins by suffering. The option is

left to us.

 

The remembrance of God is nothing new but all the religion of the world says

that.

 

Godly Servant

 

Ashish

 

Dear Ashish,

 

Hare Krishna. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila

Prabhupada. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga.

 

Thank you for your prompt response. Frankly I am still trying to understand what

you are trying to put across. Herewith are my comments to some of the points

raised.

 

You conclude: ‘Therefore the approach shall be and must be based on individual

Experience and acceptance by the Intellect.’ Individual experience at mental and

intellectual platforms are not to be accepted as Absolute Truth as they are at

material levels. The evidence herewith:

 

bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh

 

kham mano buddhir eva ca

 

ahankara itiyam me

 

bhinna prakrtir astadha

 

“Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego—all together

these eight constitute My separated material energies.” (Bhagvad-gita As It Is

7.4)

 

 

 

The scriptures describe 3 kinds of knowledge-gaining processes viz pratyaksha

(sensory), anuman(logic) and sabda(hearing from Vedic literature). Since human

beings are limited and imperfect, their perception, theories and speculations

cannot be perfect. Vedic knowledge is sabda, knowledge through hearing from

higher authority and is therefore considered perfect.

 

The Vedas declare:

 

vadanti tat tattva-vidas

 

tattvam yaj jnanam advayam

 

brahmeti paramatmeti

 

bhagavan iti sabdyate

 

The learned transcendalists describe that the Absolute Truth exists in Its three

features namely Brahman, the all-pervading impersonal subsistence, as Paramatma,

the localized supersoul accompanying every living entity and as Bhagavan, the

supreme personalized form. So God is light, energy, with and without form,

all-pervading(omnipresent), all powerful (omnipotent), all-knowing (omniscient),

the supreme person, and much more. In fact the Upanishads while describing the

Absolute Truth raise their hands in despair crying, “Neti! Neti!” – Not This!

Not This!” …… but even more!!!

 

 

 

I am definitely in agreement that the soul is minute in size but to say like

seeds ‘souls of animals will born as animals only, souls of human beings will be

born as human beings only’ is a gross misinterpretation of the vedic truth.

 

tan aham dvisatah kruran

 

samsaresu naradhaman

 

ksipamy ajasram asubhan

 

asurisv eva yonisu

 

“Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, I

perpetually cast into the ocean of material existence, into various demoniac

species of life.” (Bhagvad-gita As It Is 16.19) There are many instances in the

vedic literature where great beings take birth in the animal species and vice

versa.

 

 

 

You add, ‘But if we say God is light and since light is all pervading, God is

also all pervading, it is called ignorance.’

 

maya tatam idam sarvam

 

jagad avyakta-murtina

 

mat-sthani sarva-bhutani

 

na caham tesv avasthitah

 

“By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings

are in Me, but I am not in them.” (Bhagvad-gita As It Is 9.4)

 

You say, ‘Since all powerful soul is present in all living beings which are

indestructible, we cannot say that God is present in all living beings.’

Consider this:

 

sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto

 

mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca

 

vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo

 

vedanta-krd veda-vid eva caham

 

“I am seated in everyone's heart (as Paramatma), and from Me come remembrance,

knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am

the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the Vedas.” (Bhagvad-gita As It

Is 15.15)

 

‘Since God lives in a separate world and no person with a human body and

ordinary intellect can go and survey the land of God, human being cannot give an

accurate details of God and His actions.’ Very true, and that is why God Himself

gives graphic descriptions of the spiritual world and His eternal pastimes

there. On the other hand He also wields a word of caution to those who discredit

Him as a Human.

 

avajananti mam mudha

 

manusim tanum asritam

 

param bhavam ajananto

 

mama bhuta-mahesvaram

 

“Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My

transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be.” (Bhagvad-gita As It

Is 9.11)

 

You claim that God has said so many things but you do not substantiate even one

of them with evidence. This is what I mean by ‘mental speculation’. You cannot

freely borrow terms from the vedic literature like kalpa, yugas, Brahma,

Devatas, bhakti etc and give your own definitions to them. Also please quote

your source of evidence as otherwise this whole exercise will turn out to be a

waste of time for all of us.

 

Hope this finds you in the best of health.

 

Your servant,

 

………… dasa

 

Dear Prabhu,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Please read the following what you have mentioned:

 

"You conclude: Therefore the approach shall be and must be based on individual

Experience and acceptance by the Intellect.

 

Individual experience at mental and intellectual platforms are not to be

accepted as Absolute Truth as they are at material levels. The evidence

herewith:

 

bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh

 

kham mano buddhir eva ca

 

ahankara itiyam me

 

bhinna prakrtir astadha

 

Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false egoall together

these eight constitute My separated material energies. (Bhagvad-gita As It Is

7.4)

 

The scriptures describe 3 kinds of knowledge-gaining processes viz pratyaksha

(sensory), anuman(logic) and sabda(hearing from Vedic literature). Since human

beings are limited and imperfect, their perception, theories and speculations

cannot be perfect. Vedic knowledge is sabda, knowledge through hearing from

higher authority and is therefore considered perfect"

 

Dear Prabhu, Please note, that your good self, on one hand emphasize that Human

Intellect cannot describe the Ultimate Truth and on other hand, yourself rely on

Scriptures which were written by human Intellect.

 

Although it is said, Krishna has spoken Bhagwad Gita to Arjuna, we read Bhagwad

Gita, which was written by Sri Vyasa and above that we accept the translations

given by another Human Intellect.

 

Even Saints of Upanishads had agreed that they cannot describe or understand

God.saying Neti ..Neti....

 

So Prabhu, whatever I mention in may emails are not spoken by any Human

Intellect, Those are the words spoken by God Himself.

 

You may not believe that God comes to this world and give knowledge to us.But

that is the Truth.

 

I am telling you, we accept that we are point of lights (it is mentioned in

Srimad Bhagawatham), souls come in to this world for our role to be played.

 

Since we are point of lights, our God also is a point of light.If we are

stubborn that we are only physical bodies, there is nothing wrong in accepting a

Devta, as Supreme God.

 

Since we, point of lights are coming in to this world, it is not a miracle that

God, a point of light come in to this World to give us Knowledge.

 

Since our sub conscious mind is already have link with God without the awareness

of our conscious mind, if you just give a try to locate the Supreme God, very

soon, you can find out your True God.

 

Godly Servant,

 

Ashish

 

Dear Ashish,

 

You are still doing the same thing. A lot of claims but no evidence to back

them!

 

You wrote: ‘‘Please note, that your good self, on one hand emphasize that Human

Intellect cannot describe the Ultimate Truth and on other hand, yourself rely on

Scriptures which were written by human Intellect. Although it is said, Krishna

has spoken Bhagwad Gita to Arjuna, we read Bhagwad Gita, which was written by

Sri Vyasa and above that we accept the translations given by another Human

Intellect. Even Saints of Upanishads had agreed that they cannot describe or

understand God.saying Neti ..Neti.... ’’

 

My comments: The scriptures were originally rendered in the oral tradition by

disciplic succession from Sri Krishna to Brahma at the dawn of creation who in

turn instructed Narada etc. The Brhad-aranyaka Upanisad (2.4.10) informs us,

‘‘The Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda, Atharva Veda and Itihasas (histories like

Mahabharata and Puranas) are all BREATHED out by the Absolute Truth. Just as

one’s breath comes easily these arise from the Supreme Brahman without any

effort on His part.’’ Thus the scriptures are described as ‘apauruseya’ –

meaning that they do not come from a materially conditioned person but from the

Supreme Person. It is Vyasadev who compiled the vedic literature and presented

them in the written format for the benefit of mankind in Kali-yuga. As people in

this yuga are imbued with short memory they are supposed to refer to them

whenever spiritual doubts arise. It is not meant for any and every person to

take out words from the scriptures and give their own fanciful

meanings to them. All the recognised Acaryas viz Sankaracarya, Ramanujacarya

and Madhvacarya have all given commentaries based on the scriptures and not

based on speculation.

 

You comment: ‘‘Those are the words spoken by God Himself. ’’

 

Again what is your evidence? If according to you the Vedas, the Upanisads,

Puranas and the Bhagavad Gita are all fallible you should firstly declare that

you do not accept their authority. Secondly you must stay away from using words

from the scriptures. Finally and most importantly refrain from giving your own

mundane interpretations to them.

 

You conclude: ‘‘You may not believe that God comes to this world and give

knowledge to us. But that is the Truth. I am telling you, we accept that we are

point of lights (it is mentioned in Srimad Bhagawatham), souls come in to this

world for our role to be played.’’

 

Of course we believe! Whatever gives you this impression that we don’t. The

Supreme Personality of Godhead descended on this earth 5000 years ago and

personally spoke the Bhagavad-gita. The Srimad Bhagavatam speaks about His

pastimes during His tenure on earth. We accept that God is light and that we are

also points of light. But there is more …. God also exists as Paramatma, the

localized Supersoul and as Bhagavan, the Supreme Person in Goloka. We the jivas

(living entities) are also parts and parcels of that Supreme Person and our

constitutional position is to serve that Supreme. Since you seem to accept the

Srimad Bhagavatam then why not do so in Its totality?

 

I do not know who you are and where you live. When I first got your mail I

thought you were genuinely searching for truth and you needed some guidance on

this matter. I thought that someone had given you my e-mail id to help you with

your quest. I did not know that your intention was to educate me. I have been

preaching for many years in Malaysia and now continuing this service in

Melbourne, Australia. Maybe its time you tell me who you are and if you still

wish to remain anonymous at least tell me the person who asked you to contact

me. I will keep this issue confidential and promise that I will not contact the

person who gave you my e-mail id. I would just like to know why me?

 

Your ever well wisher,

 

,…………… dasa

 

Dear Maharaj,

 

I have already given the evidence that the words were spoken by God Himself.

 

 

 

If you feel that that there is no more higher authority than Sri Krishna/Supreme

Brahman and no body asks for evidence to prove that those are the words are from

Sri Krishna/Supreme Brahman but just accept it by the words mentioned in the

scriptures, why there is a necessity of evidence when I say the words are of

Supreme God Himself.

 

 

 

Since you have been asking for Evidence, I would say the present Bhagwad Gita,

Vedas, Upanishads are the Evidences for the Truth spoken by God at this point of

time.The Kalpa is of 5000 years and divided in to Satyug, Treta, Dwapar and

Kaliyug each of 1250 years.

 

 

 

After every kalpa, the same scenes are repeated, like a Movie cassette is played

again and again.The Rishis who come in this world in Dwapar yug able to see the

happenings taken place throughout the Kalpa in a distorted manner and they have

compiled Bhagwad Gita based on teachings taught by God Himself at this

confluence Age, end of Kaliyug and since Rishis are not aware of God and His

Supreme Quality, they had mentioned Sri Krishnas name in place of Supreme God.

 

 

 

Bhagwad Gita is the distorted version of Real Gita taught by God at this

Confluence Age. God says, the Truth consists in Gita is like a pinch of salt

mixed in the sack of flour.

 

 

 

And still if you require evidence, I would suggest, your good self can read the

Words of God and decide yourself if those are words of God or not.

 

 

 

We human beings born in this world without any cast and creed, without any

religion, try to practice the philosophy of the Parents and later stage we

stumble upon different religion and convince ourself to be settled in a religion

and die for that religion or philosophy.And we can also understand that the main

decision is usually taken at the age when our mind is not stable , and we

continue with that till we die without trying to understand anything more

because we have already tired of searching for Truth.

 

 

 

But if we still feel that we have the enthusiasm and energy to find out the real

Truth, then we succeed finding the Truth.Or we may go back to the same

philosophy what we were practicing, with more conviction.

 

 

 

Since we are souls,our nature is Peace. Singing the praise of Sri Krishna, of

course gives solace to mind, which has become tired from Materialism.

 

But the mind which has become tired mentally, mind which has lost the most

dearest and loving relation, mind that has been tortured and neglected, mind

that has been worried with world miseries will find solace only in rest

Silence.

 

No Doctor will prescribe a patient to do chanting rather always ask him to take

rest or even prescribe Meditation, So that soul when left in peace get energized

and return back to normal.

 

We human beings sleep in silence only to get nurtured but not by keep chanting

throughout the whole night.

 

As people in this yuga are imbued with short memory they are supposed to

refer to them whenever spiritual doubts arise. It is not meant for any and every

person to take out words from the scriptures and give their own fanciful

meanings to them. All the recognised Acaryas viz Sankaracarya, Ramanujacarya and

Madhvacarya have all given commentaries based on the scriptures and not based on

speculation.

 

In reality if you see, our recognized Acharyas have given their own fanciful

meanings to the Scriptures. If not why their philosophies are not same.

 

at least tell me the person who asked you to contact me. I will keep this issue

confidential and promise that I will not contact the person who gave you my

e-mail id. I would just like to know why me?

 

It is the Will of God God is access to everyone, you can ask directly to God

Why You?

 

Godly Servant

 

Ashish

 

Dear Ashish,

 

As usual your letter is filled with flaws and contradictions which you are happy

to flaunt anyway. You have actually perfected this art and are very proud about

it too. Not only are you confused you want others to be confused along with you.

 

In the Vedic tradition, the appellation ‘Maharaj’ is strictly used for persons

of the renounced order of life viz ‘sannyasis’ and not for ‘grihastas’ like me.

As if you care about such accuracies especially so when God speaks to you

otherwise.

 

According to the Vedas a Kalpa is one day of Brahma consisting of 1000 catur

yugas which lasts 4.32 billion years. Catur yuga is divided into Satya, Treta,

Dwapar and Kali which you have correctly mentioned but the periods of time are

1,728,000 yrs, 1,296,000 yrs, 864,000 yrs and 432,000 yrs respectively totalling

4.32 million years.

 

But who cares? As long as it is coming from your head …oops sorry ….. comes from

God.

 

Either you believe in the Vedic literature or you don’t but you have cleverly

mastered the technique of using them when you want and bashing them when you

don’t. Worse still you give your own definitions to them. You do not even have a

rudimentary understanding of the profound nature of the Sanskrit language and

yet boldly pose as an expert in that divine language. I feel sorry for your

Guru. I too can say that your name is Koshish which means rubbish bin and that

you come from Belachania which means fish stool. Consider this story called

‘Hardwar Bastha’ as told by our founder-acarya Srila Prabhupada. A student

appeared for an exam in which he had to write about the reign of Hardwar Bastha.

As he was ignorant about his rule he began to manufacture his own words and

wrote thus: ‘Hardwar Bastha was a dobendi lactilized by the plactony of tinda.’

In this way he filled up the whole page with his speculation. The examiner gave

him some marks appreciating the ingenuity of the student. Sad

to say in the field of philosophy no recognition is given for such balderdash.

Worse still it shows that the roots of the movement you represent has no

authenticity. It is true that the various Acaryas mentioned had held different

opinions but their differences were in the relationships between acit (matter),

cit (spirit) and isvara (controller) and not in the existence of them or the

authority of the scriptures. Anyway it is a waste of time discussing such

esoteric truths with an ignoramus like you bent on exhibiting ignorance.

 

You do not even have the courtesy to introduce yourself but have the audacity

to invite me to your VVIP meetings. You do not understand simple etiquette and

are totally bereft of culture. Firstly I am not qualified to be a VVIP, not even

a Person as I am still struggling hard in the snares of material life. Secondly

I am trying hard to follow the Vedic tradition of trying to become a servant of

the Lord and not have a meeting with Him. Thirdly, if anybody were to ask me at

the meeting as to who invited me I do not have the guts to declare boldly that

God did so, the way you do, so unflinchingly .

 

The time has come for us to go our separate ways. Please stop writing to me

anymore as you are not making any sense to me. I wish you well in your spiritual

path.

 

Your servant,

 

……………. dasa

 

 

 

 

bindu <bindu wrote:

Why does existence Come out of God and why is it called The Mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, B K <bkgswu> wrote:

 

My experience is that Hare Krishna people can not be convinced by

any logic. But they are on right path (at least we should not,like

them say, they are wrong).

 

But I found some very interesting questions in this long post. I

am sure many of us, must have wondered over these questions sometimes

and sure enought not found the correct answer. My friends will you

comment on these questions ??

 

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8) God says Human beings have created lot of sins by saying God

is present everywhere in Stones, wastes, etc., He asks us if someone

says that you are in Dogs, Cats, Pigs, how do you feel? Will we feel

happy hearing that I am a dog, cat etc.,

 

9) God asks, How a pure thing can present in an impure creature

or impure place. If God is present everywhere, then everything should

be of utmost purity.

 

10) If God is present in you and me how people can fight each other

 

11) If God is present everywhere, how all this destruction can take

place, in the presence of God, due to sins.

 

12) If God is present everywhere How he can allow bad things to

take place in this world. Can anything untoward incidents take place

in front of or in the presence of King or even Prime ministers or any

VIP.

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Love and blessings

 

baba