Scriptures Misguide too!

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Yes Ajamil did sadhna after knowing truth and attained God...........You are

right on that part but the starting part of your mail is where my objection

is..........

 

Scripture play important role.....Good......But you have to completely depend on

them...it wont play havoc...The scripture were writ en thousands of years

ago..........No.The scriptures are Sanatan...means always there like soul ,

God.........They were always there...even during Mahapralay.....it disappear and

it is again brought back bu God or HIS avtar in same form....The puranas,

vedas....binirgat granths...no one made them...

 

The confusion occurs when a person tries to understand it by

himself........which all scriptures warn not to do so......There are many dharma

prescribed for many types of people....They all are correct.......four ashram,

bhakti, karmakand all is there....you cant not follow all dharmas at one

time....for sanyasi the dharam is different, for grastha it is

different......etc etc.....But it is compulsory to do bhakti for people

following any dharma........But if a person chooses to do Krishna bhakti only ,

he is free not to follow any other karma prescribed in scriptures....

 

All other dharma keeps changing as you grow..e.g vanaprastha, grahstha,.sanyas

etc etc but bhakti remains in all four stages....But if you follow only

bhakti.....no need to go though all changes......

 

The confusion starts if the scripture is not understood properly..

 

As Baba ji when you write Moksha...........what dose it mean..? Is it the same

Moksha which gyani is after.........?

 

The definition of Yog, yaam, niyam, dhayan, dharna, samadhi.....if you see in

scriptures..you will find it is impossible to follow in this kaal yug....Our

physical body can not do it and our mental capacity to do it in this yug is also

not there......To enter into Gyan marg there are few criteria to be

fulfilled....If they are not met...you wont even allow to enter gyan

marg.....The so called Guru's who are promoting Gyan marg in this yug are

idiots....They them self did not understood what scriptures says thats the

proof.......

 

and so I am mad..........There is nothing wrong with the story and the other

part of your mail.....I am upset that you are mixing bhakti, gyan etc

etc.....and which shows there is no clear picture given to you by your

Guru.......I am upset becasue it has be very clearly explained in prariji's mail

about gyan,karma,bhakti.......But you do not pay attention to it......

 

Please forgive .I was rude to you.......which my Guru dont prescribe....I lost

my temper as I am still a sadhak....

 

 

 

 

 

beirut_ka_baba <no_reply> wrote:

 

While it is true that our scriptures play an important role for our

spiritual journey, but if we completely depend on them, it may havoc

our journey. The scriputres were written thousands of years ago,

when people had a different state of mind, also different scriptures

were written by different Rishis for a paticular group of people.

Those may not apply to others.

 

while somewhere it helps in the journey, somewhere it creates

confusion.

 

I will quote one example about Ajamil Brahmin whose story I have

heard from many famous saints. Ajamil was a Brahmin but he was very

crooked,drunkard, gambler and what not! His whole life was spent in

sin and corruption. He had a son named Narayan.

 

So when Ajamil, due to his bad habits and sins reached the death

bed, he was in pains and wanted to see his son for the last time so

he called him "Narayan...O Narayan come to me "

 

Meanwhile the Yamdutas had come to grab his soul and take to hell

for boiling and cutting. When he called Narayan....Narayan (Vishnu)

sent his soldiers to help him they fought with Yama-dutas and finally

took Ajamil to Vishnu Loka.

 

Last i heard this story from A Sadhavi who is very famous and said

to be enlightened. So she declared Vishnu's name is so sacred that

even if a Dushta (crooked) like Ajamil uttered it, he went to Vishnu

Loka. so all the public clapped...Sadhavi ji happy and matter ends.

 

These scriptures and these saints do not know what harm they are

doing to the brains of innocent simple people, whose Viveka have not

yet awakened.

 

What lesson we derive from above story ? That there is no need for

yoga, tapasaya, Yama Niyama and just in the end utter Narayan and go

to Moksha !!

 

Vishnu is so idiot that he does not know Ajamil is calling his

son and not Him?

 

And so callled enlightened saints are spreading these poisonous

and idiotic stories, giving people false hopes and misguiding them.

 

The Path of Love, the path of Truth, the path of Bliss is not

covered by such follies. Each soul has to pass millions of Tests,

thousands of pains, years of Tapasya and births of falls then hardly

that soul comes to the eyesight of the Excellence for possible

progress.

 

And No saint no avatar can get us Moksha by his powers....it is

each one's personal journey

 

WAKE Up and start this journey Now......HE IS WAITING ANXIOUSLY

FOR OUR ARRIVAL...

 

 

BABA

 

 

 

 

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