Pyari ji....Gyan, karam, yog and bhakti

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Jaya Sri Radhey!

 

> > Bhakti is a lower form of meditation, and it leads to

imperfect

> > Moksha . The only perfect sadhna is Shakti sadhna, leading us to

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> perfect Moksha

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> > chamunda

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> Your presumption is Wrong! What is imperfect Moksha ? Moksha

is

> Moksha no perfect or imperfect.

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> Baba

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Namaste.

 

There has been a lot of misunderstanding about Karma, Jnana and Bhakti

among the sincere seekers of God.

 

I'll try to explain a few points in general.

 

Devotees of Sri Kripaluji Maharaj are familiar with these verses from

Srimad Bhagavatam 11.20. in relation to various paths and sadhanas of

God-realization.

 

SB 11.20.6: Lord Krishna said:

 

yogAs trayo mayA proktA

nRNAM zreyo-vidhitsayA

jnAnaM karma ca bhaktiz ca

nopAyo 'nyo 'sti kutracit

 

My dear Uddhava, because I desire that human beings may attain

perfection, I have spoken of three paths of advancement —

the path of knowledge,

the path of work and

the path of devotion.

Besides these three there is absolutely no other means exists.

 

nirviNNAnAM jnAna yogo nyAsiM nAmiha karmasu

teSvanirviNNa cittAnAM karma yogastu kAminAm

 

yadRcchayA matkathAdau jAta zraddhastu yaH pumAn

na nirviNNo nAtisakto bhaktiyogo 'sya siddhidaH

 

Of these the path of knowledge (Jnana yoga) is for those who have got

disgusted with work (Varna Ashrama Dharma) and have renounced it;

for those who have NOT been disgusted with it and desire its fruits,

there is the path of work (Karma yoga -VAD);

 

but for the man who somehow, by a rare stroke of good fortune, has got

a veneretion and love for the tales about Me (Lord Krishna) and My

divine exploits,

and who is neither (Jnani) disgusted with nor grossly attached to work

(karmi), the path of devotion is successful.

 

tAvat karmANi kurvIta na nirvidyeta yAvatA

matkathA zravaNAdau vA zraddhA yAvan na jAyate

 

One should perform work (karma pertaining to Varna Ashrama Dharma)

UNTIL one has NOT disgusted with it (through Jnana)

and UNTIL one has DEVELOPED a faithful longing

and veneration for listening to tales about Me,

singing of My Name, glories, Divine pastimes,

meditating upon My Blissful form and so on.

 

(Srimad Bhagavatam 11. 20. 7-9)

 

Sri Maharaj ji quotes many verses from Mundakopanishad revealing the

results of Karma and following Varna-Ashrama dharma according to Vedic

principles and scrifices is simply material pleasures in higher

planets and heaven.

 

MU 1.2.7

 

But frail indeed are those rafts of sacrifices, conducted by eighteen

persons, upon whom rests the inferior work; therefore they are

destructible. Fools who rejoice in them as the Highest Good fall

victims again and again to old age and death.

 

avidyAm antare vartamAnAH

svayaM dhIrAH paNDitaM manyamAnAH

jaGghanya mAnAH pariyanti mUDhA

andhenaiva nIyamAnA yathA 'ndhAH

 

Abiding in the midst of ignorance, but thinking themselves wise and

learned, fools aimlessly go hither and thither, like blind led by the

blind." - Mundaka Upanishad 1.2.8.

 

MU 1.2.10

 

Ignorant fools, regarding sacrifices and humanitarian works as the

highest, do not know any higher good. Having enjoyed their reward on

the heights of heaven, gained by good works, they enter again this

world or a lower one.

 

Lord Krishna said the same in Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.11-

 

All the persons I have just mentioned obtain temporary fruits from

their material work. Indeed, the meager and miserable situations they

achieve bring future unhappiness and are based on ignorance. Even

while enjoying the fruits of their work, such persons are filled with

lamentation.

 

Also according to Bhagavadgita 8.16 and 9.21, the endeavors of karma

are foolish and the reults are temporary, leading to future distress.

 

Abrahma bhuvanAllokAH punarA vartino'rjuna

mAmupetya tu kaunteya punarjanma na vidyate

 

(Gita 8.16)

 

'All worlds including that of celestial Brahma

are subject to return,O Arjuna; O son of Kunti,

only those who come to Me alone, are liberated

from material bondage.'

 

9.21 After having enjoyed that vast heavenly world, they enter into

the human world on the exhaustion of their merit. Thus, those who

follow the rites and duties prescribed in the three Vedas, and are

desirous of pleasures, attain the state of going and returning.

 

Commenting on Jnana yoga, Sri Maharaj ji points out that for even to

be qualified on this path, the seeker must have total control of mind,

senses, renunciation, knowledge for discrimination of real and unreal

like 'sadhana cathushtayam', 'shadguna sampatti' and so on. In this

Kaliyuga these requisites are not easily found in seekers.

 

Even if a rare soul is qualified by chance, Lord Krishna said again

in Gita 12.5 that process itself is very difficult for human beings to

tread upon unlike Bhaktiyoga on which Lord Himself guides that soul.

 

Gita 12.5

 

For them who have their minds attached to the Unmanifested the

struggle is greater; for, the Goal which is the Unmanifest

is attained with difficulty by the embodied ones.

 

There are so many pitfalls and even one succeeds to advance it can

lead to the bliss of self-realization (Atma-ananda) but not

God-realization (Brahma ananda) as the Jnani has not conquered the

Divine power of Maya.

 

"daivIhyeSA guNa mayI mama mAyA duratya yA

mAmeva ye prapadyamte mAyAmetAm taranti te"

 

(Gita 7.14)

 

"Verily this DIVINE ILLUSION of Mine,

made up of the three Gunas (modes of

material nature), is HARD to SURMOUNT!!!

 

But those who take REFUGE IN ME ALONE,

they CROSS OVER this Illusory POWER of Mine."

 

By surrendering UNCONDITIONALLY to Lord ALONE there can be

Maya nivritti, cessation of Maya Prakriti.

 

Without Maya nivritti NONE can be liberated.

 

Lord Krishna has declared in 7.14 that only by surrendering to Him,

any soul can cross His insurmountable Maya, the Divine power of the

Lord.

 

At this point if the Jnani surrenders to the Supreme Lord and becomes

His devotee, according to Gita. 7.19, he will attain liberation and

Brahmananda.

 

Gita 7.19

 

At the end of many births the wise man surrenders himself to Me,

realising that all this is Vaasudeva (the innermost Self);

such a great soul (Mahatma) is very hard to find.

 

If not, even the jivan-mukta paramahamsa will fall down again like the

the Jada Bharatha who had to accept the body of a deer.

 

The verse 10.2.32 and 33 of Bhagavatam reveal the out come of Jnani's

achievement without devotion to the Lord.

 

ye 'nye 'ravindAkSa vimukta-mAninas

tvayy asta-bhAvAd avizuddha-buddhayaH

Aruhya kRcchreNa paraM padaM tataH

patanty adho 'nAdRta-yusSmad-aGghrayaH

 

SB 10.2.32

 

to be continued...

 

 

, "who_make_sense"

<who_make_sense> wrote:

> Radhe Radhe Pyari ji,

>

> I request you to please write on what scriptures says on

Gyan,Karma,yog

> and Bhakti Marg.......what are the goals.......and can it be

achived in

> todays changing times..

>

> Radhe Radhe

>

> Born_nutty