Nada Yoga

[Guest guest]

Dear Tyler,

 

I am really not sure what exactly Tagore was trying to express, but I

could associate it to Nada Yoga. However I might be wrong.

 

Nada Yoga is a kind of sadhana that is related to the sound as an

instrument of concentration and upliftment. It starts with

concentration on the outer notes-music, continues in reproduction of

them like in a kirtan and it ends in a meditative state, where the

mind starts perceiving the inner sound. The inner sound and light are

said to be two very original forms of the primordial energy that

created this world and can be perceived by the third eye or the sixth

sense.

 

Tools such as mantra and mudra may be used during this sadhana.

[Guest guest]

Nada Yoga is based upon Anhad Naad (sound without external

vibrations). As bible says "In the beginning there was the word and

the word was with god"... similarly Indian system Tantra has a

fully developed branch of Anhad Naad Yoga. It is a full fledged

Sadhna leading a sadhaka to Moksha.

 

As all of us may be aware Sound has four stages Vaikhari

(spoken),Madhyama (middle),Pashyanti (thought) and Para (Pure

Energy). In anhad sadhna or Nada Yoga, we start from Vaikhari and

reach the highest level which may be equated with God.

 

Anhad Naad is the sound which is heard during this meditation and

as we progress upward, we hear different sounds. These sounds are

not created by any striking of physical objects, but are in fact the

dancing tunes of Mother Nature who is busy in her work of creation,

operation and destruction.

 

This sadhna is so great that it is said that a sadhaka who has

even reached the first sound (first loka or first astral plane or

first stage) is not tormented by Yama dutas...means fear of death

goes away from him.

 

Anhad Sounds are heard in many other sadhnas too where a sadhaka

can hear different astral sounds, but if done proper Nada yoga one

can progress fast.

 

with regards and love

[Guest guest]

Namaste beirut_ka_baba-Ji:

 

Please allow me to correct some of the things in this post:

 

, beirut_ka_baba <no_reply> wrote:

>

> Nada Yoga is based upon Anhad Naad (sound without external

> vibrations).

 

the correct expression is anaahata naada - which is derived from (a

(negation) and aahata - created by or interaction of two objects.)

 

Most of the saadhaka are familiar with "anaahata cakra", it's

location is regarded as "heart". This was possibly called so because

the heartbeat sound is not created by any impact from an external

object.

 

shabdabrahmamayaH shabdo.anaahatastatra d^iShyate |

anaahataakhyaM padmaM tanmunibhiH parikiirtitam ||

 

Meaning (liberal) - Muni (sages) called it the anaahata (padma -

kamala) cakraa because it is there where sabda-brahma-ruupa can be

experienced.

 

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As bible says "In the beginning there was the word and

> the word was with god"...

<<<<<<<<<<<<

 

This is not correct either because -

 

OM kaarashcaatha shabdashca dvavatau brahmaNaH puraa . ka.nTha.m

bhitvaa vinairyaatau tasmaanmaa.ngalikaavubhau ..

 

Meaning (liberal) - OMkaara and atha is said at the beginning. The

word was with brahmaa's throat from which all the manifestations

began for all that is auspicious.

 

One of the purpose for this was that the saadhaka does not need any

expernal object or sound for practicing meditatation.

 

Hope this helps !!

 

Regards,

 

Dr. Yadu

[Guest guest]

, "ymoharir" <ymoharir> wrote:

 

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> As bible says "In the beginning there was the word and

> > the word was with god"...

> <<<<<<<<<<<<

>

> This is not correct either because -

>

> OM kaarashcaatha shabdashca dvavatau brahmaNaH puraa . ka.nTha.m

> bhitvaa vinairyaatau tasmaanmaa.ngalikaavubhau ..

>

> Meaning (liberal) - OMkaara and atha is said at the beginning. The

> word was with brahmaa's throat from which all the manifestations

> began for all that is auspicious.

 

If you noticed, baba was talking about the famous quote from the

bible, genesis, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with

God, and the Word was God. (Jo 1:1)"

 

This is really written in the bible. LOL. You may associate it with

any other indian scripture if you wish, and you may reject it as a

meaning, but it will still exist and be the correct quote from the

bible that baba wanted to mention. ;-)

[Guest guest]

I am no disputing the quotation from Bible.

 

All the sounds can only become words only after they could out of the

mouth. That is why I quoted the where OM (AUM) was positioned by our

sages.

 

The second point was the "anaahata naada" and not "Anhad Naad"

 

If you think this no value then it is your choice. What happens is

that often the internet postings are taken as authentic gospel. That

is why I tried to correct it.

 

Regards,

 

Dr. Yadu

 

 

, "Angie" <oiokasti@h...> wrote:

>

> , "ymoharir" <ymoharir> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > As bible says "In the beginning there was the word and

> > > the word was with god"...

> > <<<<<<<<<<<<

> >

> > This is not correct either because -

> >

> > OM kaarashcaatha shabdashca dvavatau brahmaNaH puraa . ka.nTha.m

> > bhitvaa vinairyaatau tasmaanmaa.ngalikaavubhau ..

> >

> > Meaning (liberal) - OMkaara and atha is said at the beginning.

The

> > word was with brahmaa's throat from which all the manifestations

> > began for all that is auspicious.

>

> If you noticed, baba was talking about the famous quote from the

> bible, genesis, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was

with

> God, and the Word was God. (Jo 1:1)"

>

> This is really written in the bible. LOL. You may associate it with

> any other indian scripture if you wish, and you may reject it as a

> meaning, but it will still exist and be the correct quote from the

> bible that baba wanted to mention. ;-)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dr Sahib,

 

the fault lies with the spelling in English. Like if we say OM

and somebody will say it is wrong and correct word is AUM...

 

I am talking of the same thing which you mentioned, only

difference is how we are spelling it. My English is not good so i

note your words.

 

I agree with you that the correct word (in English - which is a

very poor language as far as spiritual glossary is concerned..the

translation of our spiritual words in English which was done by the

English are mostly incorrect as the sounds created by them are not

same as are in our language or Sanskrit...For Example they write

Siva where as correct word should be Shiv..so it is useless to

discuss over the translation of a word but let us understand the

basic concept), should be as u mentioned. But famous sages like

Kabir Nanak etc. used this word Anhad...

 

Kehat Kabir anand bhayo hai

Bajat Anhad bol re

Tohe piya milenge...etc

 

The basic principle behind Anhad (sorry anaahata)Naad sadhna is

that the whole of the universe started from a Word (which is AUM)

and all manifestations in the universe is solidified form of words.

Thus on a spectrum the lowest part is solid and the highest

vibrations is God (often called Shabda Brahma).

 

Yr Second correction was not clear. Are you disputing the quote

from bible or its meaning. As far as your translation of the shloka

goes..it supports the quote from bible.

 

Perhaps you are taking again the face value of words from Bible's

quote and wish to say that using the word "Word" is incorrect. We

should understand that holy books are not written for elite and

intellectuals having logical minds, but for the common masses so

that they understand easily. Just replce the word "word"

with "Sound" and the meaning will be same as in Hindu scriptures!!

 

Will you please write something more on this Sadhna, its practical

way of doing and results etc. ??

 

with Regards and love

[Guest guest]

Namaste:

 

May be I should have been more explicit.

 

Word is a combination of vowels and the vyajanaa. This combination

helps us understand the meaning. Where as, sound is can be either

just a vowel or the root verb. There are few exceptions. Example –

aai & maai are common words that are used for mother (in marathi and

hindi respectively).

 

Our text gives us clues to the saadhaka that us why the heart was

established as the anaahata chakra (In my previous post I had given

description of anaahata cakra.). Where as the "vishuddha chakra" is

placed at the throat (kaNTh). Why is it call vishuddha (visheshena

shuddha) because it helps us distinguish between the words and

sounds? It is the ability of human beings to communicate their

thoughts in words that differentiates us from animals. This

purification occurs in the throat. I found a wonderful description

of vishddha chakra in one of the yoga manuals tattvaciNtaamaNi. Our

ancestors placed the specific chakras in specific places with a

specific purpose in mind. Understanding their significance becomes

part of our saadhanaa.

 

vishuddha cakra

 

vishuddhaakhyaM kaNThe sarasijamamalaM dhuumadhuumraavabhaasam |

svaraiH sarveH shauNairdalaparilasitairdiipitaM diiptabuddheH ||

samaaste puurNenduprathitatamanabhomaNDalaM vR^ittaruupam |

himacchhaayaanaagoparimalasitatanoH shuklavarNaambarasya ||

 

Meaning - Vishuddha chakra is situated in the throat (kaNTha). It

is pure and appears to be smokey in color. It encompasses sixteen

vowels (from "a" to "aha"), which are located or it's sixteen petals

that are red in color. Only sharpened minds can see this clearly.

This lotus designates and helps us understand (vR^ittaakaara). At

the center it rides on a black (biija) rides a snow-white elephant.

 

Regards,

 

Dr. Yadu

 

 

 

, beirut_ka_baba <no_reply> wrote:

>

> Thanks Dr Sahib,

>

> the fault lies with the spelling in English. Like if we say OM

> and somebody will say it is wrong and correct word is AUM...

>

> I am talking of the same thing which you mentioned, only

> difference is how we are spelling it. My English is not good so i

> note your words.

>

> I agree with you that the correct word (in English - which is a

> very poor language as far as spiritual glossary is concerned..the

> translation of our spiritual words in English which was done by the

> English are mostly incorrect as the sounds created by them are not

> same as are in our language or Sanskrit...For Example they write

> Siva where as correct word should be Shiv..so it is useless to

> discuss over the translation of a word but let us understand the

> basic concept), should be as u mentioned. But famous sages like

> Kabir Nanak etc. used this word Anhad...

>

> Kehat Kabir anand bhayo hai

> Bajat Anhad bol re

> Tohe piya milenge...etc

>

> The basic principle behind Anhad (sorry anaahata)Naad sadhna is

> that the whole of the universe started from a Word (which is AUM)

> and all manifestations in the universe is solidified form of words.

> Thus on a spectrum the lowest part is solid and the highest

> vibrations is God (often called Shabda Brahma).

>

> Yr Second correction was not clear. Are you disputing the quote

> from bible or its meaning. As far as your translation of the shloka

> goes..it supports the quote from bible.

>

> Perhaps you are taking again the face value of words from Bible's

> quote and wish to say that using the word "Word" is incorrect. We

> should understand that holy books are not written for elite and

> intellectuals having logical minds, but for the common masses so

> that they understand easily. Just replce the word "word"

> with "Sound" and the meaning will be same as in Hindu scriptures!!

>

> Will you please write something more on this Sadhna, its practical

> way of doing and results etc. ??

>

> with Regards and love